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Tesseraction posted:Peoples' lives have value and doing it as a self-indulgent riff is just doing it to make you feel good at the expense of others. People in this thread have had to post about losing loved ones. I would ask you to be better than right-wingers smugging about some libs they triggered. But there's a communality and cameraderie to most of the people posting in here, a shared experience. Ash seems to delight in only ever posting when things are at their worst, and posting in a way that sneers at the UK not as a participant in the downfall, but as a smug onlooker jeering down on us from the outside. The difference I guess is the difference between "God our country's terrible and things are getting worse" and going "Haha, your country's terrible and I'm happy it's getting worse." If my input counts for anything then personally it's a no to a threadban, but as her posting currently stands, definitely a pro ignore. E: dog 
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I've been trying to work out what it is that's different about the way Ash posts and I think this hits the nail on the head. We're all negative about the UK. We all bleakpost about it. Most of our posts since Truss became PM have been variants of "We're all going to freeze / starve / get nuked this winter." Would you say everyone else doing the same thing is fine because their behavior identifies them as belonging to the community, and Ash's doesn't?
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endlessmonotony posted:Would you say everyone else doing the same thing is fine because their behavior identifies them as belonging to the community, and Ash's doesn't?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I've been trying to work out what it is that's different about the way Ash posts and I think this hits the nail on the head. We're all negative about the UK. We all bleakpost about it. Most of our posts since Truss became PM have been variants of "We're all going to freeze / starve / get nuked this winter." Ash is a member of the country too though. Is he not allowed to point and laugh? We're all enduring the same shite. Like I think he's an unfunny dick and should stop posting, but I'll tell you as someone from Northern Ireland that I'm also rooting for the downfall of the UK because I want a united Ireland and this is how it happens. I'd rather nobody have to freeze to death for that to happen, but me pointing out that the UK loving up monumentally for over a decade straight lead to things like foodbanks becoming taken for granted (remember when they weren't?), people having to steal firewood to heat their homes and the realistic chance of a chunk of the population losing their homes because of yet another historic, unchecked economic fuckup didn't cause that. We're all fed up with it. Some of us just want it to end differently.
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Sep 30, 2022 04:36
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I'd say, as I did in that post, that there's a difference between shared comisseration, and pointing and laughing. Don't be a dick and try to twist it into something it's not. The difference comes down to your interpretation of her intentions. You're telling on yourself more than you're telling us anything about Ash and her fairly inoffensive offensive posting.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Imagine that the country is a person, who the rich and powerful slowly drain of blood like vampires, slowly enough that they can still live and somehow argue that actually it's just the way of things. I have nothing to add, but brilliant metaphor
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HopperUK posted:Hello! I suffer from this as part of my raging ADHD. I don't think it gives you free reign to be a dickhead to people I also have RSD and somehow manage to not be a raging arsehole 
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Sep 30, 2022 05:58
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endlessmonotony posted:The difference comes down to your interpretation of her intentions. All communication depends on other people's interpretation of your intentions lol. If everyone you talk to is convinced you're being a dick on purpose and says so frequently, it's on you to behave differently.
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Dabir posted:All communication depends on other people's interpretation of your intentions lol. If everyone you talk to is convinced you're being a dick on purpose and says so frequently, it's on you to behave differently.
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As always, the only thing more tedious than a bad poster is everyone talking about a bad poster. Even ********* only surpassed 'massive tool' when the whole thread became about them. Whether it's trolling or just someone who's unable to not respond to comments about themselves, it gets old fast. On the poll front, Tory MPs basically have a decision to make. Either they take action quickly to get rid of Truss, and hope that whoever takes over can drag things back a bit, or they hope desperately that when the next General Election rolls around, either Truss has managed to enact full dictator mode, or they've got a really cushy job lined up somewhere.
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Bellmaker posted:I'm not surprised the folks setting up Paddington Bear and marmalade sandwich shrines across the country for the queen are upset by this. There's only room for one bear in their hearts https://twitter.com/Kegluneq1103/status/1575483875618234368?t=QRr7Z4OD8vwOZ4Qkd0RdQA&s=19
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OwlFancier posted:Ash whatever you intention is when you post, everything I have had the misfortune to read from you makes you come across as a deeply unpleasant, callous, frankly cruel person who just enjoys posting things to be indiscriminately unpleasant to everyone who reads them. I don't know if that is what you are going for or whether you are just doing some sort of post-ironic bit that is very funny to somebody with a wildly different reference frame to me, but that is the impression you have consistently given me and that is why you are on ignore. I don't, frankly, think you give the slightest poo poo about anybody else who posts in the thread and I struggle to tell you apart from some sort of weird 4chan reject. I don't imagine I am alone in that appraisal either. See the bolded bit. This post puts things much, much better than I could, thanks Owlie
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I don't want anyone to suffer, be they english, irish scottish or welsh This country has been lurching from one disaster to another, a fair amount of which has been entirely self inflicted I get tired of having to constantly look the other way as England constantly shits itself and at this point the only way for the other countries in the uk to survive without falling down into the hole that's been dug is to straight up leave the uk If England could be feasibly saved without endangering the other constituent parts of the uk then I'd support it, but that isn't the case and i guarantee you that the majority of us outside of England, english or otherwise, just want this self inflicted nightmare, by a party that is in power primarily due to england and those that live in it, to loving end Having to pretend we're all in this together, when the majority of us outside England are being dragged along for the ride is galling and it's not like this hasn't been pointed out by more articulate, diplomatic posters and straight up dismissed as being somehow insensitive Ash Crimson fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Sep 30, 2022 |
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Sep 30, 2022 07:53
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Do you think England is a monolith or something?
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Chucat posted:Do you think England is a monolith or something? All her posting demonstrates an enormous, resounding 'yes'
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Chucat posted:Do you think England is a monolith or something? No, in every election everyone else not living in England has to hold their breath and pray England doesn't vote in a government that'll make us all worse off
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Barry Foster posted:All her posting demonstrates an enormous, resounding 'yes' Does England consistently vote in Conservative governments or not? The answer is yes and until it stops happening what else am i supposed to think about it? It needs to be split up, but thst isn't going to happen until it's been reduced to a rump state of just England Any proposal to weaken the strength of England in terms of it's overwhelming influence on the direction the uk will go is going to be fiercely resisted and rejected by both parties
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Nilbop posted:Ash is a member of the country too though. Is he not allowed to point and laugh? We're all enduring the same shite. She/her, btw. I don't think Ash should be threadbanned as long the Ash Discourse stops soon because frankly they're an infrequent poster and have never kicked up this much fuss before even if I think their posts are bad, mean spirited, and trigerring for other people for no reason.
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Ash Crimson posted:No, in every election everyone else not living in England has to hold their breath and pray England doesn't vote in a government that'll make us all worse off Do you think every person in England votes Tory? Do you think that constituencies who don't return Tory MPs or non-Tory voters just do not exist, or that they deserve everything bad that happens to them? Also/Edit: Are all the Tory voters in Wales/Scotland totally cool because they're outnumbered by non-Tory voters.
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Chucat posted:Do you think every person in England votes Tory? Do you think that constituencies who don't return Tory MPs or non-Tory voters just do not exist, or that they deserve everything bad that happens to them? No, but people in literally every other part of the uk are suffering as a direct result of what England continues to support. People are going to lose their houses, their homes, their jobs, their livelihoods and lives, all over this and it was utterly preventable England isn't going to change, giving it one more chance to make things right when we're about to plummet of this cliff is going go backfire and hard
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Fictional Place A has an election: Right Wing Nazis get 49% of the vote. Centrist Melts get 51% of the vote. This is completely fine. Fictional Place B has an election: Right Wing Nazis get 30% of the vote. Centrist Melts get 29% of the vote. Luxury Space Communism Party gets 29% of the vote. Comedy Party that wants to mandate everyone getting Seasons 1-2 of the Wire on Betamax gets 12% of the vote. This place must be sunk into the sea and their children must be purged from the earth.
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No to thread ban on Ash, even if she is spiteful and mean spirited most of the time. We all have our foibles. endlessmonotony on the other hand, the poster who best lives up to their name, I could do without. I do love the most easily trolled thread thing. It’s almost like when someone comes in and acts like a dickhead, people will respond accordingly. You can’t just come into a community, group some of them in with the worst of their people for no good reason when they’re suffering because of the shits too, and expect to be taken seriously. It’s infantile and really pretty shite and reactionary to do so particularly when plenty of us are genuinely worried for our futures. Scottish people aren’t the only ones capable of suffering. Anyway what’s everyone doing this weekend. I’m going on a date with a sexy man then going on a big walk up Snowdon
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Also as poo poo as the Tories are, they're not actually Nazis quite yet.
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Chucat posted:Fictional Place A has an election: Right Wing Nazis get 49% of the vote. Centrist Melts get 51% of the vote. I would rather not suffer as a direct result of England's inability to not return increasingly Right wing governments. And i guarantee you if you asked anyone else, especially those struggling to make ends meet in the rest of the uk, they'd agree that compassion and sympathy for the cause of their problems is far from their minds. The time of solidarity with England is done, this is an existential threat to the rest of us, we're on the edge and even you must recognise how galling it is to be continuously expected to endure what we must, in the hopes that England will, this time, not endanger the rest of our lives
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Jakabite posted:No to thread ban on Ash, even if she is spiteful and mean spirited most of the time. We all have our foibles. endlessmonotony on the other hand, the poster who best lives up to their name, I could do without. I do love the most easily trolled thread thing. It’s almost like when someone comes in and acts like a dickhead, people will respond accordingly. Any attempt to weaken the power England holds over the rest of us is going to be fought by the English whose voices will always be prominent, we both know this
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to be fair to Ash Crimson, everyone knows that all the peoples of England are psychically bound to the Synaptic Imperative of the singular Hive Mind
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kecske posted:to be fair to Ash Crimson, everyone knows that all the peoples of England are psychically bound to the Synaptic Imperative of the singular Hive Mind To be fair this exists in all countries, its just that scottish and welsh hive minds have been disrupted by the "temporary" removal of our national autonomy The second either goes independent you'll absolutely see a "consensus" or hive mind successfully formed and controlling the populace by way of kfc crisp smells
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Jakabite posted:Anyway what’s everyone doing this weekend I'm going to London to see some pro wrestling  Chucat posted:Comedy Party that wants to mandate everyone getting Seasons 1-2 of the Wire on Betamax Nobody told me this was an option!
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Jakabite posted:Anyway what’s everyone doing this weekend. I’m going on a date with a sexy man then going on a big walk up Snowdon Trying to get into london via rail to see the Jurrassic World expadition with the lad. This was booked months ago, and was fine until Lizzy karked it and they moved the rail strike. trains are running, but I'm worried about actually getting on them!
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I'm gonna build the other half of the door to my shed.
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Getting people en masse to "just not reply" to a specific poster has never worked in my experience.
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Does Ash ever blame the 55% Scottish residents who voted no or is that still the fault of England?
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Jedit posted:I hadn't tried the new ones yet. I assumed they were just the old ones without the KFC branding. If they changed the flavour then gently caress those guys, the KFC ones were drat good. Yeah, totally different. The KFC ones were 90% black pepper, the new ones are a sort of sweet fruity chicken flavour.
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Aphex- posted:Does Ash ever blame the 55% Scottish residents who voted no or is that still the fault of England? Of course i do
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Aphex- posted:Does Ash ever blame the 55% Scottish residents who voted no or is that still the fault of England? Perfidious English that have crossed the border
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No true Scotsman would have voted no.
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Aphex- posted:Does Ash ever blame the 55% Scottish residents who voted no or is that still the fault of England? Voting No was the correct decision in 2014. Scotland was under threat of a UK veto on EU accession, and as we've seen from the later actions of the racist spite golems who voted Leave, the usual argument of "the EU will offer a deal to make them change their mind" could not be relied on. Cast adrift from both the UK and the EU, independent Scotland could not have done well. Now, though, the situation differs. Scotland is not faced with a choice of being in both the UK and the EU or neither of them; the choice is being in the UK or the EU. And that's not a choice - the EU is simply the better option, even if only because if the SNP fucks the country you'll have the option to live somewhere else.
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Relevant to the current topic being a blast of turds into national waters https://twitter.com/SouthernWater/status/1575417699211132929
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Jippa posted:Getting people en masse to "just not reply" to a specific poster has never worked in my experience. Don’t post tweets from the Extremely Bad Tweeters list (you know who they are) Don’t engage with posts from the Extremely Bad Posters list (you know who they are) Anyway, I’m having a flying lesson this weekend so I’m nervously looking forward to that 
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