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anilEhilated posted:Could you spoil how much romance/sex is in it? It's one of the factors I consider before getting a book. None
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Well. There's intense love and devotion and feeling. But I think calling it romance would be misleading.
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Oct 3, 2022 00:23
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Thanks!
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Oct 3, 2022 00:27
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anilEhilated posted:Could you spoil how much romance/sex is in it? It's one of the factors I consider before getting a book. None, but the POV character is thirsty on some level for many of the people she encounters, and talks about it routinely.
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Oct 3, 2022 00:29
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More Nona thoughts Also Nona is an aspect of God (Earth/Alecto) who takes a human body and dies for our sins / to mend the rift between god and Man (make Alecto less insane). But also Alecto is a resurrection beast which means that John is too, in a way. But also also Alecto/Earth/God gives her services to Harrow in the same way she gave them to Anastasia which is not in keeping with what we've heard from John, I think?
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Oct 3, 2022 00:44
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General Battuta posted:Source your quotes I’m apparently a big piece of poo poo. 
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Gato The Elder posted:More Nona thoughts starting to feel like this John guy might be a great big liar, if perhaps also to himseld
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GreyjoyBastard posted:starting to feel like this John guy might be a great big liar, if perhaps also to himseld oh my yes
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Oct 3, 2022 01:07
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I would absolutely say there's at least one major romance in Nona.
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Oct 3, 2022 01:10
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The first chapter of three body problem is a real downer
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Oct 3, 2022 01:29
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I've never referred to a dramatis personae section in my life. Either the people are distinct enough that I'll remember who they are - *mostly* - or they're not, and I probably don't need to care. Oh wait, not quite true. I looked at family trees a lot while reading the Silmarillion back in the day.
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Oct 3, 2022 01:43
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HopperUK posted:I've never referred to a dramatis personae section in my life. Either the people are distinct enough that I'll remember who they are - *mostly* - or they're not, and I probably don't need to care. Frankly I found most of the cast distinctive and relevant enough as characters that the dramatis personae wasn't really necessary
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Oct 3, 2022 01:48
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They're useful on Russian novels where you need to know a dudes name, his father's name, and his nickname
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Oct 3, 2022 01:54
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Also, uh, by the third book the dramatis personae in the Locked Tomb series start being important and worth reading.
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Oct 3, 2022 02:00
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VostokProgram posted:The first chapter of three body problem is a real downer I have bad news about the other chapters
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Oct 3, 2022 02:14
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Gaius Marius posted:They're useful on Russian novels where you need to know a dudes name, his father's name, and his nickname Or in Chinese novels where there's the name, the childhood name, the nickname, and the formal name. Learning all of these AND the suffixes has been a real adventure for me.
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Oct 3, 2022 02:27
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I enjoyed Tain Shir's entry in the dramatis personae for Tyrant Baru But yeah they're rarely necessary
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Rand Brittain posted:I would absolutely say there's at least one major romance in Nona. Nona and noodle
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HopperUK posted:I've never referred to a dramatis personae section in my life. Either the people are distinct enough that I'll remember who they are - *mostly* - or they're not, and I probably don't need to care. Dramatises personae are for jogging the reader's memory when they're coming back to a series. You don't flip to them (or anything) mid book, ideally, you read them up front and they kind of rattle out the cobwebs a bit. Ideally they're a bit entetaining. Nigmaetcetera posted:I’m apparently a big piece of poo poo. Nonsense, but you definitely leapt to a pretty silly conclusion about a book!
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Kazzah posted:I enjoyed Tain Shir's entry in the dramatis personae for Tyrant Baru I believe -- and the good General can correct me on this! -- that keeping Tain Shir as the last, lonely wildcard entry on the list was my suggestion, haha.
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General Battuta posted:Dramatises personae are for jogging the reader's memory when they're coming back to a series. You don't flip to them (or anything) mid book, ideally, you read them up front and they kind of rattle out the cobwebs a bit. Ideally they're a bit entetaining. Gideon very thoughtfully does the prose equivalent of color coding its characters
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There had to be a more easy to remember mnemonic device than numbering the Houses. I only know that the Ninth house are the ones who studied Double Bones with Dr. Skelebones, and the first are, uh, wealthy and affluent, but Houses 2-8? I'm totally blanking.
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Oct 3, 2022 05:32
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Yeah if she was going for a "I'm a Hufflepuff" thing it didn't really work. There's too many Houses and a lot of them only have 2 characters representing them so far, so it's hard to tell what's a personal trait and what's common to the whole House. I did the official "What House are you?" quiz that Tor put out and it said I was Sixth House, which was like... Yeah. I'm doing an online personality quiz based on a fantasy novel, obviously I'm going to be in the nerd house.
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Oct 3, 2022 06:20
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I enjoy a lot of the layers of the Locked Tomb setting specifically because it does reward closer/different perspectives upon re-reading. Equating them to Harry Potter poo poo doesn't land for me because (a) yuck and (b) the differences in houses feel like things that are have been ingrained over millennia of minimal(ish) interaction. If anything I feel like Muir is purposefully turning the house trope on its head, pointing out the role that tribalism plays in the structure and design of controlling an empire. Sorry, lost my train of thought. What I mean to say is "Have you ever noticed that Third House necromancers raise skeletons like *this*, and Second House necromancers conjure skeletons like *that*? And off to the side, Ninth House necromancers are like, 'Wait... y'all do bones too???'"
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The fifth house is kind of memorable because of Gideon's favourite mag.
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MartingaleJack posted:There had to be a more easy to remember mnemonic device than numbering the Houses. I only know that the Ninth house are the ones who studied Double Bones with Dr. Skelebones, and the first are, uh, wealthy and affluent, but Houses 2-8? I'm totally blanking. alright, i read Harrow over a year ago, i'm gonna challenge myself to remember all of em without looking it up 1st are the occluded ruling house 2nd are hall monitors 3rd are preps 4th listen to Korn 5th are geeks 6th are nerds 7th are scene kids 8th go to bible study 9th are goths
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Oct 3, 2022 08:10
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First three books of Arcane Ascension (progression fantasy, gamelit) are free on Kindle because book 4 is out: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P6T5K3Y
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Cicero posted:First three books of Arcane Ascension (progression fantasy, gamelit) are free on Kindle because book 4 is out: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P6T5K3Y Gave it a try, wouldn’t carry on reading into the second book even for free and I’ve read and enjoyed a few game lit things before (mostly just Matt Dinniman’s stuff) so it’s not like I’m automatically down in it because of the genre.
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VostokProgram posted:The first chapter of three body problem is a real downer which is like, not a compliment
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Fivemarks posted:I am back on my Taylor Anderson bullshit again with Destroyermen. Or, more properly, book 2 of the Artillerymen prequel series. I am only a few chapters in and poo poo's good. I have a lot of respect for this series, especially since it manages to handle the concept and idea of "Always Evil Races" better than 90% of sci-fi and fantasy by going "There's no such loving thing as a race or culture or ethnicity that is inherently and always evil, and you're a loving rear end in a top hat if you think that." Oh yeah, he's doing a prequel series? I actually enjoyed the main series right to the end (amazingly, it DID end). And yeah, the author quite effectively shits all over the more fash-y tropes you often find in milSF, "hard men making hard choices" and all. I was especially fond of the bit with the death kudzu they found growing on some island, which could have been used as a bioweapon to permanently ruin the enemy lands, and how there was only one guy who really wanted to use it, and everyone else thought he was a dick.
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Nomnom Cookie posted:I have bad news about the other chapters I do feel bad for Ye Wenjie because she had a poo poo life but drat, selling out to aliens was not what I expected
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I think we've probably all had that impulse a time or two.
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VostokProgram posted:The first chapter of three body problem is a real downer
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VostokProgram posted:selling out to aliens was not what I expected General Battuta posted:I think we've probably all had that impulse a time or two. That's what I'd expect from the author of The Trait- oh nevermind. Finished Gideon the Ninth and I thought it was propulsive and enjoyable, even if the language kept throwing me out of the setting. Honestly preferred the folks in the Red Rising series acting like Victorian nobs (which they basically were). I'll certainly read Harrow the Ninth.
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I’m going to read Nona soon. Have no intention of doing a reread of Gideon and Harrow, but is there anywhere online to do a good refresher that’s better than the plot summaries I can get on Wikipedia?
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Megasabin posted:I’m going to read Nona soon. Have no intention of doing a reread of Gideon and Harrow, but is there anywhere online to do a good refresher that’s better than the plot summaries I can get on Wikipedia? I went through an online wiki before the reread and found it very helpful! I think it was the Fandom wiki for the Locked Tomb? Absolutely atrocious web site. Helpful info for remembering the cast of characters though.
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habeasdorkus posted:That's what I'd expect from the author of The Trait- oh nevermind. Well it's important to recognize that The Emperor is a nerd NZ shitposter and most of his closest buddies (the Lyctors) are too
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Danhenge posted:Well it's important to recognize that Yeah, they are literally a bunch of lovely terminally online millennials, so all the references to lovely millennial online culture make conplete sense in-setting.
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Oct 3, 2022 20:58
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Haven't gotten to that part yet!
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Danhenge posted:Well it's important to recognize that Aren't the Lyctors technically NZ shitposters, but they don't remember the pre-Resurrection times? At least, John claims - and given some of the other statements made, it seems to be a true claim - that he made all the resurrected forget. So their shitposterness is just what they've picked up from 10,000 years of being around John.
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