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hasn't jones already squirrelled away his money OJ style so he's basically never going to pay out anything? Also I'm curious what the judgment amount could end up being and if it matters since, he's not gonna pay anything. I really wish they would have gotten him in jail somehow but nothing matters so of course not.
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LifeSunDeath posted:hasn't jones already squirrelled away his money OJ style so he's basically never going to pay out anything? Also I'm curious what the judgment amount could end up being and if it matters since, he's not gonna pay anything. I really wish they would have gotten him in jail somehow but nothing matters so of course not. The current bankruptcy trial is unraveling all of his money movements.
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Yeah I assume Jones hid his money with the same level of ability he brings to everything else. A half-assed attempt he thinks is genius.
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Oct 4, 2022 14:05
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Where was it that Alex Jones' lawyers tried to claim that the money was tied up in a company owned by a mysterious individual known only by the initials AEJ and the prosecution asked what Alex Jones' middle name was?
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Oct 4, 2022 14:14
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Yeah, the latest update on the Bankruptcy case was the judge saying "you know what, you're not competent to run any of your own companies, their finances are all controlled by a court-appointed third party now." "Also, your personal finances are indistinguishable from your companies' finances so we're treating them as the same thing." Also damages are normally capped in the state, UNLESS you fall afoul of specific fraud infractions, which Alex has done. So damages are uncapped. It has not been the best month of Alex Jones' life I think.
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Oct 4, 2022 14:17
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I can't believe jones went to ACC. What a moron. I went to UT so I can deride these people legally.
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Oct 4, 2022 14:20
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Randalor posted:Where was it that Alex Jones' lawyers tried to claim that the money was tied up in a company owned by a mysterious individual known only by the initials ABJ and the prosecution asked what Alex Jones' middle name was? Bemerick?
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Oct 4, 2022 14:30
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Pirate Radar posted:Bemerick? Hey, you can't expect me to spend 10 seconds to Google Alex Jones' full name. That's 10 seconds longer than he spends looking up facts for anything on his show.
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Oct 4, 2022 14:37
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Speaking of bankruptcy, FSS has requested the appointment of a retired CPA by the name of Patrick McGill to take over as Chief Restructuring Officer - the job that Mark Schwartz was not allowed to do. The US Trustee has blessed this appointment, so the judge will likely grant it. We should see reports of financial status and such start coming not long after said appointment.
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Oct 4, 2022 14:43
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LifeSunDeath posted:hasn't jones already squirrelled away his money OJ style so he's basically never going to pay out anything? Also I'm curious what the judgment amount could end up being and if it matters since, he's not gonna pay anything. I really wish they would have gotten him in jail somehow but nothing matters so of course not. Not exactly. OJ bought a massive mansion in FL as a shelter for his money. Jones has attempted to move cash into various trusts in the name of himself, his parents, and his kids. There is state court litigation aimed at unwinding these transactions and the bankruptcy court is looking into PQPR and the massive member draws specifically.
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Oct 4, 2022 14:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRlHnbGUggg Nothing yet
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Mr. Nice! posted:Speaking of bankruptcy, FSS has requested the appointment of a retired CPA by the name of Patrick McGill to take over as Chief Restructuring Officer - the job that Mark Schwartz was not allowed to do. The US Trustee has blessed this appointment, so the judge will likely grant it. We should see reports of financial status and such start coming not long after said appointment. Will these be in public filings?
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Oct 4, 2022 14:58
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KitConstantine posted:Will these be in public filings? Should be, yes.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Not exactly. OJ bought a massive mansion in FL as a shelter for his money. Jones has attempted to move cash into various trusts in the name of himself, his parents, and his kids. There is state court litigation aimed at unwinding these transactions and the bankruptcy court is looking into PQPR and the massive member draws specifically. The phrase "show the receipts" has always been sort of glib, but if we could actually see the literal receipts of those transactions it would make my loving year so much better.
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Oct 4, 2022 15:01
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Mr. Nice! posted:Should be, yes. Could you provide the link to the docket for the bankruptcy case? It might be worthwhile to add to the OP as this develops more and I can't ever remember the specific court name 
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Oct 4, 2022 15:02
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Unknown when Alex will testify, but probably tomorrow apparently? EDIT: Oh apparently Jones is indeed at the trial and Pattis is informing the Judge that Jones will be holding a press conference and he wants the Judge to know he has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Oct 4, 2022 15:05
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Looks like tomorrow, yes.
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Oct 4, 2022 15:06
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“The default is a lie” This is going to be a week. Oh boy
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KitConstantine posted:Could you provide the link to the docket for the bankruptcy case? It might be worthwhile to add to the OP as this develops more and I can't ever remember the specific court name Courtlistener.com is amazing for following federal court dockets. Their recap archive is built on people who have PACER accounts running their plugin when they access pacer and download documents. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64868456/free-speech-systems-llc/
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Oct 4, 2022 15:07
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teen witch posted:“The default is a lie” So Jones basically lost it (somehow even more) since last Friday, between this and is comments about Sandy Hook being synthetic?
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OneMoreTime posted:EDIT: Oh apparently Jones is indeed at the trial and Pattis is informing the Judge that Jones will be holding a press conference and he wants the Judge to know he has absolutely nothing to do with it. Seriously? What did he say? "Your honour my client is a loving moron and doing this, please don't hold it against me."
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Oct 4, 2022 15:12
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OneMoreTime posted:Unknown when Alex will testify, but probably tomorrow apparently? As in 'my client is going to do something incredibly stupid and I can't stop him and I don't represent this, please don't hold me responsible for the actions of the person I agreed to represent for a large amount of money'?
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Oct 4, 2022 15:13
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...oh my god, he really went there. So yeah. With that INSANE loving sentence, this is probably going to be taught in every defamation class lesson ever. For so many reasons. I just don't understand how the gently caress ANY OF THIS is going to work in Jones' head. Perhaps it's the "mind of a delusional defendant" thing, but to everyone who looks at this as an academic study (as objectively as you can), are any of your professors/former teachers having aneurysms from this?
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Outrail posted:As in 'my client is going to do something incredibly stupid and I can't stop him and I don't represent this, please don't hold me responsible for the actions of the person I agreed to represent for a large amount of money'? Well, yeah. Pattis doesn't want to get sanctioned personally more than he probably will at the end for everything else.
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ilmucche posted:Seriously? What did he say? "Your honour my client is a loving moron and doing this, please don't hold it against me." Yes. Pattis brought it up specifically in side bar because he wanted the Judge to know he just found out his intentions and that he essentially didn't sanction it nor had any involvement in it, and specifically gave details such as Jones noting that he believes the default is a lie as some examples of what to expect. Serious rear end covering from Pattis.
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Faust IX posted:...oh my god, he really went there. Jones doesn't care. He thinks he's fine because the bankruptcy is going to shield him, and he's making more money every day now than he was before the first verdict.
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Randalor posted:Where was it that Alex Jones' lawyers tried to claim that the money was tied up in a company owned by a mysterious individual known only by the initials AEJ and the prosecution asked what Alex Jones' middle name was? I'm very certain it was one of the more recent, if n ot THE most recent deposition episode (6 or 7) where the plaintiff (? or plaintiff's reps. Mark and Bill, regardless) asked the person being deposed, which i'm 90% sure was Paz, what "AEJ Holdings" stood for.
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Kid had perfect pitch. That...that poo poo hurts to hear, as someone with relative perfect pitch to Bb. Today is going to hurt.
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Fuccccck me this testimony hurts every part of me that's a person with empathy. gently caress
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Faust IX posted:Today is going to hurt. Ok I was going to ask if todays testimony was parents or someone else and now I know the answer! I know the parents testimony is important and I want them all to get every penny they deserve but I just can't.
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I do hope that all of this is studied, and not just from a legal standpoint. Because how the gently caress do so many willingly participate in tormenting those who lost someone before their time, to gun violence, many of them parents of dead kids. How do you follow someone into doing that. What happened, what is WRONG, because that is asocial and concerning behavior.
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Oct 4, 2022 15:50
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Christ, Pattis is going to be a nightmare in cross now that Obama's been brought up. Even if he's objected to every step of the way, it is going to be a nightmare.
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Rampant Dwickery posted:Christ, Pattis is going to be a nightmare in cross now that Obama's been brought up. Even if he's objected to every step of the way, it is going to be a nightmare. It seemed deliberate to cut him off at the pass, so to speak. Pattis has often attempted to bring up Obama/politics regardless and the Judge has allowed it previously so maybe that's the reason?
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Wait, she successfully pulled off the Streisand-Effect and got herself removed from search engines? ....oh. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. "And then i googled myself....and then I watched them all. Every Alex Jones video."
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SHE GOT CALLED AN ACTOR AT A SUPPORT GROUP FOR MOMS WHO LOST KIDS TO GUN VIOLENCE gently caress THIS gently caress EVERYTHIN gently caress YOU gently caress ME gently caress THE WORLD
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Glad I'm not listening.
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Xiahou Dun posted:SHE GOT CALLED AN ACTOR AT A SUPPORT GROUP FOR MOMS WHO LOST KIDS TO GUN VIOLENCE gently caress THIS gently caress EVERYTHIN gently caress YOU gently caress ME gently caress THE WORLD By another mother who's son was killed. The levels of hosed up are astonishing
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...I didn't think I could get that visceral gutpunch feeling I had just hearing that. I thought I've grown numb to pretty much everything on the internet that could be considered shocking. And then a member of a support group of mothers who lost kids to gun violence just had either an existential break in the elevator ride (which is hell on its own), or literally did not believe. And of course Norm asks about the 2nd amendment and gun-owning rights instead of focusing on the fact that his client somehow convinced a mom who had lost her son to a shooting a few weeks prior that one of the Sandy Hook mothers was literally a crisis actor and got her to say it in her face in an elevator at a convention for grieving and traumatized mothers of gun violence.
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Xiahou Dun posted:SHE GOT CALLED AN ACTOR AT A SUPPORT GROUP FOR MOMS WHO LOST KIDS TO GUN VIOLENCE gently caress THIS gently caress EVERYTHIN gently caress YOU gently caress ME gently caress THE WORLD Yeah I tuned in for that and immediately turned it off. What the gently caress
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goatface posted:Glad I'm not listening. Same. It's my birthday today and I'm checking out from the heartbreak.
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