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Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

extra cursed; people are posting na'vi porn in the replies.

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Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

Kitch/gimmick. The only time I ever went there was in the middle of the afternoon before a flight and everyone seemed nice enough.

quote:

a friend of mine used to work there and got paid 12+tips so this is just another occasion where a goon assumes reality and is flat wrong about the outside world

vortex is like a tourist spot, they do the volume to pay good wages. or did before corona at least

Hey I’m not assuming anything. Was just commenting on what I saw when I was there. Bartending and serving put me through school. They definitely have a “type” when it comes to their waitstaff and that’s a little “eh” but they’re going for a theme I guess.

Frank Frank fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Oct 6, 2022

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Yaldabaoth posted:



So passionate about demanding their employees have enough money to live but won't actually pay them a living wage.

The food menu at that place is the real cursed image. I mean, I'm sure it's all great and tasty but the quantities are insane.

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

Capt.Whorebags posted:

The food menu at that place is the real cursed image. I mean, I'm sure it's all great and tasty but the quantities are insane.

I saw someone order that coronary thing when I was there and it is not something anyone should eat in a single sitting. Maybe 2 or 3

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

Capt.Whorebags posted:

The food menu at that place is the real cursed image. I mean, I'm sure it's all great and tasty but the quantities are insane.

I hate the kitschy trademarked names for everyday bar food items

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored
From what I recall, the food was better than average but incredibly overpriced. About average for a tourist trap/gimmick place downtown.

I would have liked to have seen what the night life looked like back in my 20s for sure.

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Frank Frank posted:

From what I recall, the food was better than average but incredibly overpriced. About average for a tourist trap/gimmick place downtown.

I would have liked to have seen what the night life looked like back in my 20s for sure.

It's particularly galling to serve cheap to make burgers at inflated prices and then bitch out the customers because you don't pay a living wage to your staff.

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored
Guy earlier in this thread said the servers made $12+ tips which is pretty decent for serving jobs

E: my wife manages a bar and still bartends sometimes and the place she works for covers walkouts and undertips + at %20 (to the server) at the restaurant’s expense. I know not all of them “get it” yet, but some are starting to come around. They also have a real healthcare plan and benefits.

All of those things were unheard of 15 years ago. Hell the last place I bartended before I sold my soul to corporate America use to make the server pay for walkouts. It’s illegal? Don’t like it? Fine - you’re fired. Someone else won’t complain. Not saying restaurants are perfect now or anything, but it’s a hell of a lot better than it was.

Frank Frank fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Oct 6, 2022

WIFEY WATCHDOG
Jun 25, 2012

Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

Capt.Whorebags posted:

The food menu at that place is the real cursed image. I mean, I'm sure it's all great and tasty but the quantities are insane.

no its garbage actually, over salted fat+cheese bullshit for tourist idiots

just like me

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

WIFEY WATCHDOG posted:

no its garbage actually, over salted fat+cheese bullshit for tourist idiots

just like me

I had some kinda grilled chicken sandwich that was p good iirc. I mean, better than your average TGI Fridays or whatever.

RoastBeef
Jul 11, 2008


I'm just curious - does every table get a copy of the rules? Just tables they think will be problems? I've eaten at like thousands of restaurants from job site sandwich vans to three michelin star tasting menu joints and never have i ever seen anything as deranged as that handout

WIFEY WATCHDOG
Jun 25, 2012

Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

RoastBeef posted:

I'm just curious - does every table get a copy of the rules? Just tables they think will be problems? I've eaten at like thousands of restaurants from job site sandwich vans to three michelin star tasting menu joints and never have i ever seen anything as deranged as that handout

thousandes? name it champ

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

By popular demand posted:

Goddamnit Neil, it's not even a good joke.

Not only that it’s vaguely offensive + marketing

more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

forums poster

The only place I've seen that had "rules" like that only had one posted copy near the door. It's a small bar that took the "fancy metalhead" thing very seriously in like 2006 when they opened, they had only craft beer which was uncommon at the time, and then they got a lot of press for their burger, so they went all in on making 10oz hockey pucks on pretzel buns with a pile of poo poo on top. All the servers are tattooed women, they would show weird Japanese gore poo poo on the TVs and play death metal, all the burgers are named after metal bands. They either basically created this trend or they were copying it from somewhere outside Chicago, but it spread like crazy for a while and you couldn't find a burger that wasn't way too loving big anywhere.

The rules were like "NO, WE WILL NOT PUT ON 'THE GAME'" and "NO, WE DO NOT HAVE MILLER LITE. DRINK AN IPA"

The owners were at January 6th

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

"WE are not paying our servers a living, so YOU better tip" seems like a weird thing to advertise to your customers even if that's the reality everywhere

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


So many words to say :flip:got you!

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

The restaurant tipping "rules" are from a gimmick restaurant. It is supposed to be a silly joke as part of the grander scheme where they insult the customers with their "sass".

Tipping culture and not paying a living wage etc. are both a horrible thing and a can of worms in every thread they are brought up. But they have nothing to do with these faux-aggressive rules in a touristy gimmick restaurant.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
What's that other gimmick franchise where their whole schtick is that the servers are incredibly rude (and witty) towards you? Almost certain there isn't one here but I thought I remembered hearing about a "Dick's" or something, an American phenomenon that had a spot open up in Vancouver.

I wonder what interviewing for that kind of position would be like. I bet it's really tough, like auditioning to play a drill instructor.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

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Mister Speaker posted:

What's that other gimmick franchise where their whole schtick is that the servers are incredibly rude (and witty) towards you? Almost certain there isn't one here but I thought I remembered hearing about a "Dick's" or something, an American phenomenon that had a spot open up in Vancouver.

I wonder what interviewing for that kind of position would be like. I bet it's really tough, like auditioning to play a drill instructor.

Dick’s Last Resort

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

There's Dick's Last Resort, and the more regional Ed Debevic's. I can't imagine wanting to go on the gimmick alone but hey, different strokes.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
The Fuddruckers that changes it’s name to Ruddfuckers after 9PM

AndreTheGiantBoned
Oct 28, 2010

Mister Speaker posted:

What's that other gimmick franchise where their whole schtick is that the servers are incredibly rude (and witty) towards you? Almost certain there isn't one here but I thought I remembered hearing about a "Dick's" or something, an American phenomenon that had a spot open up in Vancouver.

I wonder what interviewing for that kind of position would be like. I bet it's really tough, like auditioning to play a drill instructor.

Karen's I think.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Scratch Monkey posted:

The Fuddruckers that changes it’s name to Ruddfuckers after 9PM

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

"WE are not paying our servers a living, so YOU better tip" seems like a weird thing to advertise to your customers even if that's the reality everywhere



Absolutely no one is going to read any of that after they realize the tip is fake.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
https://twitter.com/jujijuliar/status/1577714418816880660

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

"WE are not paying our servers a living, so YOU better tip" seems like a weird thing to advertise to your customers even if that's the reality everywhere



The best thing to do with these is to put them in your local church's donation jar.

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored
That would involve going to church

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Frank Frank posted:

Absolutely no one is going to read any of that after they realize the tip is fake.

Yeah either they didn’t think it through or they don’t care because they’ve done their part and dodged paying a tip.

Leaning towards the latter but it takes all kinds.

dpush
Nov 10, 2009

I don't see a problem here. This is what salmon does. It swims upstream to where it was born, spawns, then dies. This is normal.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

"WE are not paying our servers a living, so YOU better tip" seems like a weird thing to advertise to your customers even if that's the reality everywhere



They're right. Go to church. Steal from the collection basket. Cut out the middle man.

https://twitter.com/FantasyJeanyus/status/1442109100368674828?t=xp8BbvKtGIHqDBlnwKMD2A&s=19

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

dpush posted:

I don't see a problem here. This is what salmon does. It swims upstream to where it was born, spawns, then dies. This is normal.

These ones couldn't swim upstream because there was no water. They couldn't spawn and just died. This wipes out the entire salmon run in the river forever.

AndreTheGiantBoned
Oct 28, 2010

McGavin posted:

These ones couldn't swim upstream because there was no water. They couldn't spawn and just died. This wipes out the entire salmon run in the river forever.

:thejoke:

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Yeah either they didn’t think it through or they don’t care because they’ve done their part and dodged paying a tip.

Leaning towards the latter but it takes all kinds.

Or C) they get off on being cruel to people but are too cowardly to do it to their faces.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Yeah either they didn’t think it through or they don’t care because they’ve done their part and dodged paying a tip.

Leaning towards the latter but it takes all kinds.

Frank Frank posted:

Or C) they get off on being cruel to people but are too cowardly to do it to their faces.

Honestly, having grown up in that environment, any one of these is probably reasonably likely to be true. There's a common amount of obliviousness present in proselytizing like this, where getting the message out is the successful end goal regardless of how it's going to play to the person on the receiving end. It's also common to really be stingy with stuff like tips because it's not someone's *real* payment for doing their god-given honest work; whether this is more a general internalized feeling or someone going out of their way to be cruel probably depends on that specific person.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1578117249671495681

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

It's fine? Internet people screeching about the casting has to be a bit, right

Manager Hoyden
Mar 5, 2020

Tiny Timbs posted:

It's fine? Internet people screeching about the casting has to be a bit, right

For reasons I still fail to understand, very internet people hate the parks and recreation guy

edit: don't get me wrong I think the guy is a supreme piece of poo poo because he and Anna Faris abandoned a cat because they didn't want to feed it but I doubt that's why the internet at large hates the guy

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

BrigadierSensible posted:

The restaurant tipping "rules" are from a gimmick restaurant. It is supposed to be a silly joke as part of the grander scheme where they insult the customers with their "sass".

Tipping culture and not paying a living wage etc. are both a horrible thing and a can of worms in every thread they are brought up. But they have nothing to do with these faux-aggressive rules in a touristy gimmick restaurant.

its the kind of thing meant to wind up idiot assholes which of course means this thread will circle around it for pages. nibbling the bait

at least goons aren't debating food this time, they're debating the concept of restaurants. thats newish i guess

Captain Hygiene posted:

Honestly, having grown up in that environment, any one of these is probably reasonably likely to be true. There's a common amount of obliviousness present in proselytizing like this, where getting the message out is the successful end goal regardless of how it's going to play to the person on the receiving end. It's also common to really be stingy with stuff like tips because it's not someone's *real* payment for doing their god-given honest work; whether this is more a general internalized feeling or someone going out of their way to be cruel probably depends on that specific person.

years ago a coworker of mine got one of these in lieu of a tip, from a guy she recognized from her church

the point is to find reasons to be an rear end in a top hat and not tip

Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Oct 6, 2022

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Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Manager Hoyden posted:

For reasons I still fail to understand, very internet people hate the parks and recreation guy

Two reasons:

1. He's a member of some weird, gay hating church
2. He divorced his first wife with whom he had a special needs child, remarried (to Arnold Schwarzenegger daughter), and had another kid. He then did an interview where he talked about how lucky he was to have a healthy baby which some people took to mean that he's happy it wasn't like the first one.

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