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Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




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Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

foreverially coolerized and loving it

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

(the Empire is the coolest, btw)

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

some plague rats posted:

The source for the claim is apparently "Dissociative Identity Disorder: A Literature Review" from the Brigham Young University Undergraduate Journal of Psychology. Definitely interested in what some weirdo Mormon undergrad thinks! That's definitive!

but I mean realistically lol for responding to some rear end in a top hat asking for a source with "uh, have you heard of this thing called wikipedia?"

The 1.5% number is what's in the DSM-5. Thats what the literature review is citing. Idk why that's the source for Wikipedia, but that article is not lying about what the APA says. And, yeah, I didn't feel it necessary to put a lot of work into researching a commonly accepted statistic that I put out in the face of a ridiculous claim that 2 people in all of history have ever been diagnosed.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
The 2 people thing seemed like a pretty obvious bit of hyperbole. Anyway we're done with that conversation because it was stupid and annoying, just like everyone pretending to have DID for tiktok clout

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde

Kevin DuBrow posted:

What specifically can land her in legal trouble?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k87vq/caroline-farrow-arrested-kiwi-farms

Farrow has been harassing people for years and had posted someone full address to twitter a couple months ago.



Glenn stills remains super weird.
https://twitter.com/reina_amarillo/status/1577773348171423745

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I can't believe "multiple systems" are a thing again. That's some livejournal era poo poo.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Clicking through that thread somehow Glenn wasn't the most vicious there.
Like that's a thread in which someone accusing him of being a groomer and mocking his dying husband, which is pretty lovely.
Though yeah searching for and replying to that poo poo by being an internet tough guy is uh certainly a response

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

This, my friends, is true Posting

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Scratch Monkey posted:

But what does that have to do with DID?

some plague rats posted:

we've created a social media edifice where you're rewarded with clout and positive attention for pretending to have a mental illness and performing it publically. Just an entire society giving itself Munchausens

This. Young teens are really into self diagnosing a variety of real and not real conditions and building their social identities around it

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Dumpmaster General posted:

love the idea of arguing about serial killers as if you're doing the 'who wins, LeBron, MJ in his prime, or Kobe' argument but censoring 'rape' and 'kill'

*The Beatles' "Helter Skelter" begins blaring as the houselights go down*

:bahgawd: BAH GAWD KING, THAT'S "CHUCKWAGON" CHARLES MANSON'S MUSIC :bahgawd:

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

I dare you to show me a cooler duck





Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
We had a whole thread ages back about the 'married to Sephiroth on the astral plane' types, insane internet people still do what they do. Final Fantasy VII House and all. Just with different pop culture archetypes they latch onto because they're clearly not getting any real love and support at home.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



These are presumably the younger siblings of those kids who used to have one direction members as some of their multiple identities

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Should I start a pyf duck thread y/n

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Should I start a pyf duck thread y/n

in the time you wasted asking you could have already done it

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


The Saddest Rhino posted:

Should I start a pyf duck thread y/n

Obviously y

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Splash Attack posted:

my sister is the only person still talking to them after they tanked their friend group by accusing one of them for being a pedophile for playing genshin impact.

What’s their forums account?

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Bottom Liner posted:

in the time you wasted asking you could have already done it

Mx. posted:

Obviously y

the pact is sealed

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4014235

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Should I start a pyf duck thread y/n

Only if it includes Duck Chess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1owSL9JbP3E

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
Are the “this YouTuber is a literal person inside my brain” kids just picking up on mannerisms of streamers they watch several hours each day and think that actually makes them soul bound somehow instead of extremely common for anyone you see constantly in a (para)social setting?

nerd plus rage
May 12, 2014

It's a metaphor for something, probably

Dr. Stab posted:

The 1.5% number is what's in the DSM-5. Thats what the literature review is citing. Idk why that's the source for Wikipedia, but that article is not lying about what the APA says. And, yeah, I didn't feel it necessary to put a lot of work into researching a commonly accepted statistic that I put out in the face of a ridiculous claim that 2 people in all of history have ever been diagnosed.

The gap between 0.01% of the population (the low end of that ridiculously hedged statistic) and 1% (the high end) is around 740 million people, so really the 2 people guess is probably closer to the actual number of diagnoses than yours.

E: Having done some looking around it seems like the data on prevalence for DID is annoyingly inconsistent between studies so I guess the snark was unwarranted

nerd plus rage has a new favorite as of 08:32 on Oct 7, 2022

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

The Saddest Rhino posted:

When I found out dunkey didn't look like an actual donkey I was furious
Sit down, I've got some horrible news about Voidburger.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Knormal posted:

Sit down, I've got some horrible news about Voidburger.

At least I'll never be betrayed by bird mod

Turpitude II
Nov 10, 2014

Ghost Leviathan posted:

There is apparently a zoomer tendency to get tumblr puritan about sexuality, though I imagine like anything else it's a weird minority whose brains aren't finished forming. (and in the case of the failkids, never will be)

if i was a queer teen, i would simply not call queer adults pedophiles to the exact same extent for the exact same reasons (ie none) as conservative adults do.

related social media idiocy: the several-year-long saga of the Adult-Coded Sex Frog. (someone who worked on a cartoon frog show drew something completely innocuous and is still being attacked and smeared for it.)











bonus: someone made a very generic and reasonable statement at the same time the adult-coded sex frog thing happened and insane people assumed it was related. for the op's percieved crime, they were - you guessed it - also called a pedo. you would think kids would not want to cry wolf on this for pretty obvious reasons, but i guess not.






at my most generous, i assume kids are seeing how poo poo everything is currently and are not equipped to do anything about it aside from take it out on whoever's accessible.
https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1376198399989579776



Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

nerd plus rage posted:

The gap between 0.01% of the population (the low end of that ridiculously hedged statistic) and 1% (the high end) is around 740 million people, so really the 2 people guess is probably closer to the actual number of diagnoses than yours.

E: Having done some looking around it seems like the data on prevalence for DID is annoyingly inconsistent between studies so I guess the snark was unwarranted

It's not my guess. It's the American Psychiatric Association.

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

It's one of those trends that makes me feel like the entire approach to social justice needs to be re-examined. I don't know if any amount of educating people about this stuff will ever actually help prevent it from happening. Like, hell, earlier this year I was having a long conversation with a friend of mine about exactly this subject: that is, that the language of social justice and accountability is extremely easy to abuse especially with how leftist organizations are often structured, and that people often weaponize it against people they simply don't like. Then just a few months later this same friend was heavily instrumental in drama of this exact nature, which ended with the person being targeted straight up leaving the city and the majority of the rest of the group quitting the project. How is the left ever going to accomplish anything if the basis of the community is an eagerness to fracture it as brutally and thoroughly as possible?

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I would simply assume american psychiatic diagnostics were functional and accurate as well as applicable to the entire world send tweet

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
X-post

https://twitter.com/Threepants_/status/1578256441080975367

Russian man goes into debt playing world of tanks and simping for an e-girl and tries to avoid the consequences by joint the army only to be captured by the Ukrainians so he can tell his pathetic story to the wider world

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1576957884583317506

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Lmao incredible

E: I meant the Russian dude but also lmao at that Fandom editor

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


somebody has to be out there doing the hard work recording the truth on fandom wikis

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Kit Walker posted:

It's one of those trends that makes me feel like the entire approach to social justice needs to be re-examined. I don't know if any amount of educating people about this stuff will ever actually help prevent it from happening. Like, hell, earlier this year I was having a long conversation with a friend of mine about exactly this subject: that is, that the language of social justice and accountability is extremely easy to abuse especially with how leftist organizations are often structured, and that people often weaponize it against people they simply don't like. Then just a few months later this same friend was heavily instrumental in drama of this exact nature, which ended with the person being targeted straight up leaving the city and the majority of the rest of the group quitting the project. How is the left ever going to accomplish anything if the basis of the community is an eagerness to fracture it as brutally and thoroughly as possible?

You pretty much have to un-teach everything these people learned from tumblr and start from first principles. A lot of this language and these communities were ultimately built on a foundation of bougie failkids looking for easy targets to gain cred, and that behaviour became the norm. If it's not COINTELPRO poo poo it's basically indistinguishable from it.

See also the people who stopped using 'intersectionality' the moment someone brings up class.

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012

"Okay, but there's no proof it's the same guy-"

lol, incredible.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
It's also a way to spice up your engagement with a franchise and its fandom by doubling down on the make-believe aspect of it (see also "reality shifting", ie lucid dreaming aimed at a particular fictional setting, or neopaganism but with modern pop culture characters, etc.).

If there's a problem with it, it's that using the language of actual disorders for these things and how it's ableist to think they're not real is contributing to the general conflation of fandom and politics that's endemic to modern social media.

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Ghost Leviathan posted:

You pretty much have to un-teach everything these people learned from tumblr and start from first principles. A lot of this language and these communities were ultimately built on a foundation of bougie failkids looking for easy targets to gain cred, and that behaviour became the norm. If it's not COINTELPRO poo poo it's basically indistinguishable from it.

See also the people who stopped using 'intersectionality' the moment someone brings up class.

I think it's even broader than that, since it's not just limited to tumblr kids, and some of these people are barely online. Like, over the last three years or so I watched a thirty year old community/project space go from two members (the only people left after a campaign of accountability tore the place to pieces and a dozen people left), to about a dozen members, and then back down to three who've driven out everyone with any institutional knowledge, got rid of almost all the resources the space had been accumulating, and now themselves don't really even want to live there and are reluctant to add new members. The space is under a lease directly from the government and if they can't pay rent it'll get shut down pretty much right away, so this really might just be the end of it. And over the course of those three years about two dozen other people came and went and there were another two miniature repetitions of the same pattern

None of the wreckers were particularly online, and only one of them really came from a privileged/academic background. You're absolutely right that it's indistinguishable from COINTELPRO poo poo, though. These ideas have permeated the cultures within these spaces pretty thoroughly, though, and I don't really know what can be done about it

Kit Walker has a new favorite as of 13:59 on Oct 7, 2022

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Also a lot is simply an a idea that you are angry about these problems and want to do something about them, but the people with actual power are scary, so you obviously go after the easiest possible targets no matter if they're actually valid or there's anything to be gained.

Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

Kids are dumb and the internet is not helping (I think someone once said something about the effect of the internet on people).

Scratch Monkey posted:

Russian man goes into debt playing world of tanks and simping for an e-girl and tries to avoid the consequences by joint the army only to be captured by the Ukrainians so he can tell his pathetic story to the wider world
Trying to decide whether this is funnier than dudes posting classified tank specs to win forums debates.

Dumpmaster General
Sep 8, 2022

by sebmojo
The biggest issue is there's a poo poo ton of fetuses, especially in the queer community, who've grown up in a society that has, despite countless other issues and miles to go still, actually seen a lot of improvement in how sexuality, especially gender and sexuality based minorities, gets treated and have never had to live in a society where being gay was literally illegal or the like. Obviously that's great for them but it's created a kinda false view of the world without context and have become super fertile ground for the most sex negative people on earth to infect.

It's the same reason you see the ~kink at pride~ discourse get really spicy on places like Tiktok when normally it was the domain of the social conservatives who hate queer people anyway, when you've grown up not having to fight your very existence being treated as a 'fetish' you're way easier to hornswoggle into mindlessly repeating 'if you draw a girl blushing you're horny and trying to gently caress' and the whole trying to tie any amount of queerness that isn't sexless tenderqueer poo poo to 'making things unsafe for children in the community'.

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800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Kit Walker posted:

I think it's even broader than that, since it's not just limited to tumblr kids, and some of these people are barely online.

Yeah this is an issue that goes back decades in leftist activism. Groups like this attract intense and passionate people, some of whom see an opportunity to build personal power by weaponizing the language of leftist ideology and/or social justice. I dont think I've ever known anyone who's worked in activism or even liberal non-profits that doesn't have a thousand stories of wreckers trying to become king of the socialist book club or whatever.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Also a lot is simply an a idea that you are angry about these problems and want to do something about them, but the people with actual power are scary, so you obviously go after the easiest possible targets no matter if they're actually valid or there's anything to be gained.

Thats definitely true, its like the reason poor people steal from other poor people instead of the rich - its just who you have access to. But there are for sure people who cynically abuse this tendency for their own benefit and will often be the ones leading the outrage mob. As an aside, one the few actually good things about Twitter is that it gives more access to go after the people that deserve to be the targets of outrage, which of course they don't like at all

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