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I was thinking it's not what I would choose for my official portrait.
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There was talk the other day, comparing the situation now with the end of Major's time, and while there are some similarities, I think today's situation is much more bleak and volatile. Things were pretty poo poo for many during the end of the 80's and early 90's, but I certainly don't remember society being as hosed and unaffordable as it is now. As a musician, I was always part of and mixing with the bottom rungs of society, and no matter how poo poo things were, there was never a fear of being actually street homeless, or being without actual food in your stomach, or not having medical or dental care etc.. No matter how bad things got, there was always a DSS and NHS safety net that would keep people's head above water. You could even drop out and go to uni if you have the qualifications - tuition was free, and they even gave you a small grant. In some situations, you could also even claim dole. Property ownership is now unaffordable to many. Even having your own self contained space is impossible for many, as more and more people are crammed into HMOs. Many are even struggling to stay on the rental ladder. The DSS is now called the DWP, and entitlements are now called 'universal credits', where you have to jump hoops and wait 5 weeks before you'll get your first regular payments. And those payments are being shrunk year on year as inflation runs away. Wages and work conditions are declining at a rapid rate, and living costs are rising at an exponential rate. During the 90's, people could just gently caress off and leave, and an old band I was in did exactly that - we moved to Ireland for 6 months, arriving there with just enough money to cover out transport and food, before then moving to Scandinavia. You can't do that anymore, not unless you are rich. Most of us are trapped here. As our pound crashes against other currencies, people will be priced out of escaping this place regardless. I think we're in a much more serious situation than the Major days/ We're about to have our human rights 'redefined' by leaving the ECHR, and we're going to be losing whatever rights and protections we had under EU law. We've already lost our right to protest, so it's not like we can do much about it in any case. Truss doesn't need to build camps. The entire country is one, run by literal fascists. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 8, 2022 |
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I'm quite a bit younger than Fuct but that's exactly the impression I get too. I was only a kid in the 90s but I have a lot of nostalgia for it purely as a time when it was possible to live on the margins of society and survive and possibly even thrive. I consume a lot of media from that time that is exactly about people being able to bum about, practice their arts, squat or pay very little to rent, and basically not feel the abyss gaping below them at all times (unless they earn, like, £100,000 a year) And the thing is, it's only going to get worse. Rapidly with the Tories, or slowly with Labour. But I don't think even the true believer liberals really genuinely think anything is going to get better in the foreseeable future (in fact, as we know, moralists are actively opposed to that) There really is nothing - nothing - good on the horizon. Nothing good is even possible anymore, really. In Tolkien's mythos there are two words for hope in Sindarin - amdir, which is the kind of hope you have when there's a reasonable and reasonably predictable chance of success. Like when you take long odds on a horse race or something. Then there's estel, which is hope against hope - faith in some eucatastrophe that will arrive unbidden and totally unforeseeable, in the face of certain defeat, in a manner previously seemingly impossible. A miracle, essentially. I feel like only the latter makes sense now, and it feels - to me, of little faith - like madness. (On the other hand, the whole world has gone insane, and instrumental reason was what got us into this in the first place. So why not embrace madness?) Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Oct 8, 2022 |
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Oct 8, 2022 23:36
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Guavanaut posted:Going to recommend Politics at a Distance from the State again. *claps to a beat in my head like a revival meeting preacher* Rights aren't granted, they're agreed on and demanded. Rights aren't granted, they're agreed on and demanded. Barry Foster posted:(On the other hand, the whole world has gone insane, and instrumental reason was what got us into this in the first place. So why not embrace madness?) 
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I agree that nothing seems like it will improve in the forseeable future, but at the same time, the future is notoriously unforseeable.
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 Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will, etc.
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I think the feeling of being trapped is really intense. While the Tories and police were going after 'new age travellers' in the 90's, it was still possible to buy a £300 HGV lorry, and drive and live in it full time without a license, MOT or insurance. You can't get away with that anymore. There used to be lots of traveller sites where people could live in small communities without bother, but that's all gone now. With the recent law changes, the police can now confiscate your van home and all its possessions at a whim. Drones now make it impossible to hide in the countryside undetected. As more and more landowners sell up, the number of pitches that travelling folk can set up is diminishing. I wish I'd tried it while I had the chance, but buying a bus or a lorry was an option that many friends took back in the day. I still have a few who are living it, but it's getting much harder and cost prohibitive. Even being able to escape to a different place in the UK is hard, as public transport is loving horrific. Many people are trapped in tenancies they hate, jobs they hate and even relationships they hate... because they can't afford anything else. Something is going to snap that'll make the poll tax riots look like a tea party. People are at their most dangerous when they have nothing left to lose. This winter is going to be interesting.
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Someone in this thread once pointed out that in every series of the Revolutions podcast, the actual revolutioning bit took everyone completely by surprise, up to and including the protagonists.
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In happier news, I spent my 2nd Saturday lunchtime openly vaping stinky skunk cannabis.  It's a good coping mechanism for <manically points at everything>
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drugs are much less cool now they look like tubs of sunscreen.
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Lady Demelza posted:Someone in this thread once pointed out that in every series of the Revolutions podcast, the actual revolutioning bit took everyone completely by surprise, up to and including the protagonists. Not listened to those but I do recall the 2011 Egyptian revolution seemed to come out of the blue to MSM and powers that be. This is because the April 6 people did not use internet etc ("chatter") to drum up support but went into the streets, alleys, coffee shops just talking to people to make sure that on January 25th (or well Jan 28th was the first big Friday after midday prayers in Tahrir Sq) there was support to come out. The roots of the 2011 revolution can be seen even in 2008 with the Malhalla textile workers strikes, and in 2009/10 particularly there were widespread power outages and shortages of petrol etc giving rise to discontent. (Funnily enough, memories were short and when under Morsy there were numerous power cuts people blamed the revolution and forgot that the outages before the revolution were a prompt for that. I pissed off a few people by posting reports from pre-revolution on the power outages under Mubarak). Anyway, be aware that memories are very short. My observation of revolutions mostly from afar is that they all unite under one issue - oust Mubarak for example, or as we see here GTTO. But where they fail is because there is NO plan or agreement on what happens afterwards and that is absolutely essential. The first elections after a year of SCAF, there were something like 134 political parties on the list - many 'single issue' and the end result was a run off between Shafik (Old regime), Morsy (Muslim Brotherhood) and Hamdeen Sabahi (a sort of centrist socialist). Many of my friends refused to vote in the run off because there was some kind of fix going on. Shafik was expected to win and emails were confidently sent round by eg heads of International Schools also giving the exact % (58%) he was supposed to win by. But didn't. I remember sitting on the couch with the builders working in my flat watching a judge go painstakingly through every single challenge from every single polling station in Egypt saying what the result of their investigations were. There was a sort of 'revolution school' around which 'taught' things like get into the highways and byways to drum up support don't rely on Facebook or whatever 'invites' when everyone says they're coming and then don't turn up. I'm sure it was based in Croatia but can find no trace of it now but then that was over 10 years ago. Just recalled also there was the brutal murder by police of Khalid Saeed in June 2010 whose dead & broken face was posted all over social media at the time (Egyptians much less squeamish about what they post). That was also a big prompt. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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Never seen a gunshop in the UK before. Look at that security on it.
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happyhippy posted:Never seen a gunshop in the UK before. I’ve been to country fairs where they’ve just got racks upon racks of shotguns under gazebos secured with nothing but a length of (presumably steel or some other thick metal cored) cable that runs through the racks and all the trigger guards. Then there’s all the gun people themselves walking about the place with them just slung over their shoulders in bags because they’re there to buy/sell/trade.
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happyhippy posted:Never seen a gunshop in the UK before. I've driven past a couple, they're not enormously uncommon in north yorkshire because there are lots of farmers and toffs who like to go shooting at things on the moors, sometimes if you're out you hear the shotguns going off too. I think a lot of the towns around the moors have one and some of the smaller villages too. They always have this weird air about them where they look like they're out of the 1920s. Never been in one but I imagine the inside is made of green leather and wood panelling, and probably the proprietor as well.
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My local one in Leicester used to be the back half of a sports and camping shop, with a raised step along the middle separating the two halves, and shutters up above on the front and middle divides. It was owned by a couple of Indian brothers, one usually sat reading behind each counter. Years back some skinhead oval office came in and tried to rob/threaten/something or other the bottom counter (no idea what, I was up in the other half, but it definitely sounded very shouty and racist) and the brother up top just hopped straight out his seat, swung up the bar on the rack, and yelled down "oi, up here. get out. out now." I've never seen someone poo poo their pants and scurry off from half a shop away quite like that. Unfortunately the insurance costs of storing ammo and powder in the city did what tracksuit cunts couldn't and they ended up moving out into the county and then later closing. fuctifino posted:skunk cannabis Over ten thousand carrots per carrot rear end bullshit. 
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https://twitter.com/HalimaNyomi/status/1578743035743326208 She was one of the whistleblowers on the Labour Files. Just reading some of the posts on her twitter re her treatment at the hands of the Starmfuhrer. I want to get the tories out but ffs Starmer's making it incredibly difficult to justify voting Labour. Just have to see what the next GE brings.
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Guavanaut posted:What a stupid moral panic that was. The reason why skunk was demonised in the press is because the genetics of Skunk#1 is owned by a Dutch pharmaceutical company, and is the THC element of medicines such as Sativex. They had to protect their commercial interests and keep their genetics out of the hands of normal people. Now where that company got those genetics is interesting.... Google 'Sam the Skunkman' for echoes of Web 1.0 accounts of people who had the misfortune to meet him. In a nutshell, a DEA informant ended up working for the Sacred Seed Bank in the US, a cannabis seed bank that had been operating since the 40's. He ended up getting their major clients arrested around the world, as well as everyone who worked at the seedbank in America... but 'Sam' was able to escape justice WITH the seedbank... and then set himself up in Holland and ran the cannabis cup for 2-3 years - which resulted in Sam being able to take out even more of the competition when loads of people who entered got busted. He then started a pharmaceutical company, and the rest is $$$$$$$$ [edit] vvv Yeah, there's no solid evidence. I do/did know people who knew him, as well as others who worked alongside the Sacred Seed Bank in the US, and as crazy as it sounds, this did happen. It's all ancient history, regardless. But Skunk#1 is 100% the THC plant that GW Pharmaceuticals uses to make its Sativex spray. GW were one of the early licensees of the genetics. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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I've had a look, and a lot of it sounds speculative or vice dot com at best, but then again there's no 'official' sources for this poo poo. The Behind the Bastards podcast is running a month long Cracktoberfest on moral panics destroying Black neighborhoods by proxy in America, the CIA turning themselves into admin guys for the worlds largest heroin ring just as a side effect of loving with trade unionists in Corsica and Marseille (what else are you going to do once you own the docks) to fund Operation Gladio and defund communists, and many other fun drug facts, so yeah it's well within 'coulda be' grounds.
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fuctifino posted:I think the feeling of being trapped is really intense. While the Tories and police were going after 'new age travellers' in the 90's, it was still possible to buy a £300 HGV lorry, and drive and live in it full time without a license, MOT or insurance. You can't get away with that anymore. Say you've lost your job. You can't afford the rent. Your wife has left you. You can't afford to eat and heat your house. Then you get a diagnosis of pancreatic cancer or something equally hopeless. What then do you have to lose by trying to take one of the bastards out with you?
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From experience I would suggest you either hit normal suicidality or the post-suicidality level of despair where you would like to die but cannot muster the will to do it yourself. Despair is not, really, a motivating force, it takes a particular combination of motivation and misery to produce someone who can be proactively self destructive in any fashion, I think.
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"Et tu, Excel*?"quote:The rebels’ smartphone spreadsheet that means Liz Truss is still in deep trouble Next Saturday, 15th, is the Ides of October. *or more likely a google doc. Other spreadsheets are available. Forgot the link: non-paywalled Times: https://archive.ph/klPIT Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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This time we put the evidence in a spreadsheet. Surely this will bring her down! Look, it even turns green automatically and we hid the data validation a few cells to the right with white text!! Short of some major actual pivotal moment like the assassination of Ferdinand, its just going to grind on inevitably. I dunno, 5th Nov soon.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://twitter.com/HalimaNyomi/status/1578743035743326208 She’s also a rapper: https://twitter.com/halimanyomi/status/1575857794951319554
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E. Nvm
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How do I stop twitter flooding me with suggested topics? It's become insane. Can I get some browser plugin or something? I only want to read stuff from the accounts I follow.
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Comrade Fakename posted:She’s also a rapper: Why are the comments all people saying how good this is? Am I just too old to understand Twitter sarcasm, or is it just me who started cringing away from my phone like Donald Trump from an eagle?
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Scientastic posted:Why are the comments all people saying how good this is? Am I just too old to understand Twitter sarcasm, or is it just me who started cringing away from my phone like Donald Trump from an eagle? no, it’s the children who are wrong
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Jippa posted:How do I stop twitter flooding me with suggested topics? It's become insane. Can I get some browser plugin or something? 3rd party phone app
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Skarsnik posted:3rd party phone app This. Tweetbot is worth every penny of its subscription feee
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Mebh posted:This time we put the evidence in a spreadsheet. Surely this will bring her down! Look, it even turns green automatically and we hid the data validation a few cells to the right with white text!! I feel like we're approaching a pivotal moment in history. No wait, I meant pivot table Barry Foster posted:In Tolkien's mythos there are two words for hope in Sindarin - amdir, which is the kind of hope you have when there's a reasonable and reasonably predictable chance of success. Like when you take long odds on a horse race or something. Then there's estel, which is hope against hope - faith in some eucatastrophe that will arrive unbidden and totally unforeseeable, in the face of certain defeat, in a manner previously seemingly impossible. A miracle, essentially. Not exactly any help, but heres a song written about that exact Tolkien idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlPjL2Zym4 Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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fuctifino posted:In happier news, I spent my 2nd Saturday lunchtime openly vaping stinky skunk cannabis. I know the Head of Retail for Hospiscare charity shops; I’m going to ask if she’s heard about you.
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fuctifino posted:In happier news, I spent my 2nd Saturday lunchtime openly vaping stinky skunk cannabis. I quit before vaping was a thing. How much does it smell compared to a regular joint?
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https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1579022300858310657 This is a new thing. 1300 people are being ordered to surrender their passports to the police
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Mega Comrade posted:I quit before vaping was a thing. How much does it smell compared to a regular joint? Enough that it's obvious what you're vaping when you walk down the street, if that's the thrust of your question fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1579022300858310657 The rare scenario where British hard cunts on tour would actually be more civilised and less bloodthirsty than the country they're traveling to
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1579022300858310657 Not a new thing - it's been done before with major international tournaments. I dimly recall that some fans get smuggled across to Europe anyway, and seem downright offended when they get arrested by the Gendarmes (or similar) and deported.
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kingturnip posted:Not a new thing - it's been done before with major international tournaments. I thought that previously, people were just flagged so that they'd get identified by passport control if they tried to leave? I don't think people have been required to actually surrender their passports like this before.
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