|
Dirk the Average posted:It definitely is to some degree. People need to use gasoline to get to work to earn money. Businesses need to transport goods to get paid. There's only so many cost-cutting measures you can implement in a short time period to reduce consumption of gas when the price goes up. You might be able to carpool, you might reduce the number of trips you make, but in the end you still have to buy gasoline to get from point A to point B, and some level of travel is unavoidable for a number of people. indeed
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 17:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 02:46 |
|
|
how bout that la city council huh
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 17:19
|
|
|
LA city council sucks rear end, news at 11. Seriously though, wowzas. One conversation racist in multiple ways, and somehow someone was recording it. I’m wondering if it was an aide who recorded it and is disgruntled, or someone on the council who has an axe to grind against one of the members caught on tape being an rear end in a top hat.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 17:49
|
|
|
Smythe posted:how bout that la city council huh This story is nuts, for anyone who hasn't read it. The racism here is astounding, and this is going to have huge repercussions for LA politics. A lot of the coverage is focusing on Nury calling Mike Bonin's child a monkey, but the wilder thing is that a prominent faction of Latino council members see the city in explicitly Latino vs. Black lines and were caught on a hot mic literally conspiring to keep down "the Blacks". E: it looks like Nury has resigned as president, but remains on the city council: https://twitter.com/boreskes/status/1579517201950052355 VikingofRock fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Oct 10, 2022 |
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 18:28
|
|
|
LA City council is a ridiculous cesspool but this is bad even for them
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 18:34
|
|
|
Lmao she isn’t even resigning. Get the gently caress out and never come back.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 18:55
|
|
|
FlapYoJacks posted:Lmao she isn’t even resigning. Martinez is resigning though? Unless you're referring to someone else
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 19:34
|
|
|
As far as I can tell she's just resigning as the president of the council, but not from the council itself.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 19:35
|
|
|
Oooohhh
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 19:35
|
|
|
DeadFatDuckFat posted:Martinez is resigning though? Unless you're referring to someone else Sydin posted:As far as I can tell she's just resigning as the president of the council, but not from the council itself. This. And her statement is very carefully worded to make people think she’s resigning from the counsel. It’s not surprising you were fooled. It’s super slimy.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 19:37
|
|
|
lol how the gently caress do you have a conversation like that anywhere near public offices, or even where literally anyone else other than your most trusted political allies might hear you just brazenly stupid, what a bunch of dumbshits
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:10
|
|
|
idiotsavant posted:lol how the gently caress do you have a conversation like that anywhere near public offices, or even where literally anyone else other than your most trusted political allies might hear you Perhaps nobody should have conversations like that ever, because it’s horrible and has no place in society, private or otherwise?
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:12
|
|
|
Yeah, it's always great when people are like, "I got heated and lost my cool and I regret what I said" because like, I've gotten heated before. I've lost my cool. I've never referred to a black child as a "little monkey" in those moments. Weird.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:21
|
|
|
Almost like having 13 people to represent 3.7 million is a lovely idea
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:23
|
|
|
idiotsavant posted:lol how the gently caress do you have a conversation like that anywhere near public offices, or even where literally anyone else other than your most trusted political allies might hear you I mean, what consequences are going to happen to them? They're horrible people but they're probably all going to get reelected. ================================================================================= Speaking of elections, it's that time again, and here's the very good Knock LA voter guide for November: https://knock-la.com/los-angeles-progressive-voter-guide-november-midterm-election-2022/ Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Oct 10, 2022 |
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:34
|
|
|
The Glumslinger posted:Almost like having 13 people to represent 3.7 million is a lovely idea It's hilarious that LA city counselors are some of the most powerful legislators on the planet but public perception and the media treat them like they're just arranging 4th of July parades and pancake luncheons to benefit the fire department.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:38
|
|
|
idiotsavant posted:lol how the gently caress do you have a conversation like that anywhere near public offices, or even where literally anyone else other than your most trusted political allies might hear you How dare you sign your post for all of us at once
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:44
|
|
|
Kenning posted:It's hilarious that LA city counselors are some of the most powerful legislators on the planet but public perception and the media treat them like they're just arranging 4th of July parades and pancake luncheons to benefit the fire department. Supervisors are arguably even more powerful and barely get any media at all.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:46
|
|
|
Kenning posted:Yeah, it's always great when people are like, "I got heated and lost my cool and I regret what I said" because like, I've gotten heated before. I've lost my cool. I've never referred to a black child as a "little monkey" in those moments. Weird. literaly heated gaming moment LMFAO
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:51
|
|
|
Jaxyon posted:I mean, what consequences are going to happen to them? They're horrible people but they're probably all going to get reelected. great guide as always thnx
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:51
|
|
|
Kenning posted:It's hilarious that LA city counselors are some of the most powerful legislators on the planet but public perception and the media treat them like they're just arranging 4th of July parades and pancake luncheons to benefit the fire department. its weird man. i went to a fundraiser for hugo and he was just like there, chilling. we drank some white claws and talked about plato. in a couple months this dude could be one of the most powerful politicians in the country. wild poo poo
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:53
|
|
|
Jaxyon posted:Supervisors are arguably even more powerful and barely get any media at all. yea for sure
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:53
|
|
|
Los Angeles should have a legislature of like 300 people, and be empowered to enter into direct diplomatic and economic relations with sovereign states.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:59
|
|
|
So where are we with the ballot props? They're almost all loving stupid this year from what I can tell? Prop 1: Yes, although it does nothing against the inevitable hammer drop of SCOTUS declaring fetal personhood down the line. Prop 26/27: No on both, although I have to imagine sports gambling is gonna come to the state at some point one way or another. The revenue splits on both are loving dogshit for the state though, compared to what other states take. Prop 28: Yes, I guess? It's a good cause but also specific carve outs from the general fund loving suck. Prop 29: Yes I guess since SEIU is for it and the Republicans are against it, but boy am I loving sick of these dialysis propositions. Prop 30: Yes since the carve out is funded by a progressive tax on the rich, but the prop is dumb and a blatant handout to car companies to build EV's and charging infrastructure we don't have the grid capacity to actually operate. Prop 31: Yes, gently caress the tobacco industry although this one has some real Prop 8 energy in how it's poorly worded, and I wonder how many people will vote "No" thinking that will stop the repeal instead of support it, or vice versa.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 20:59
|
|
|
it's cool that they waited until most smokers are vapers to ban menthols lol. so now it's not even a significant profit margin for tobacco companies so the only thing it does is gently caress over people who like to smoke them, and you can't even say it's an anti-smoking measure because it's already illegal to smoke basically anywhere besides a parking lot anyway. it's just purely classism and i respect the bravery in putting that on the ballot.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 21:09
|
|
|
Kenning posted:Los Angeles should have a legislature of like 300 people, and be empowered to enter into direct diplomatic and economic relations with sovereign states. there are 100 neighborhood councils already....
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 21:10
|
|
|
Larry Parrish posted:it's cool that they waited until most smokers are vapers to ban menthols lol. so now it's not even a significant profit margin for tobacco companies so the only thing it does is gently caress over people who like to smoke them, and you can't even say it's an anti-smoking measure because it's already illegal to smoke basically anywhere besides a parking lot anyway. it's just purely classism and i respect the bravery in putting that on the ballot. its so stupid
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 21:10
|
|
|
Sydin posted:So where are we with the ballot props? They're almost all loving stupid this year from what I can tell? Yeah 27 has gambling places paying like 10% when some states takes 50%, and playing it as if you opposing it makes you against the homeless or whatever. Just brazen bullshit. As for as the Dialysis poo poo, once again the supporters have enough money to get it on the ballot but not enough to combat the cash firehose from the dialysis companies who don't need to spend money anywhere else.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 21:23
|
|
|
Smythe posted:literaly heated gaming moment LMFAO
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 21:24
|
|
|
Smythe posted:literaly heated gaming moment LMFAO It wasn't literally heated Smythe
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 21:50
|
|
|
Sydin posted:So where are we with the ballot props? They're almost all loving stupid this year from what I can tell? perennial prop commentary https://www.peterates.com/props-1122.shtml is up, as is https://dsa-la.org/voter-guide/#statewide sports betting is peak poo poo that should go through the legislature instead, and thankfully polling on it looks negative 28 is a no, hamstringing the budget process with arbitrary requirements is bad, especially without revenue or limits (hence why 30 is more palatable) 31 im against on general principle against prohibition as a policy solution to drug issues.
|
|
#
?
Oct 10, 2022 23:52
|
|
|
VSOKUL girl posted:perennial prop commentary https://www.peterates.com/props-1122.shtml is up, as is https://dsa-la.org/voter-guide/#statewide Pete says no on 28 but DSA says yes, so  . Budget carve-outs suck but the cause is at least palatable. For 31 I agree that prohibition doesn't fix anything, I'm more voting yes on principal since the only reason it's on there is because the tobacco industry got sad about legislation overwhelmingly passed by the state and astro-turfed a ballot proposition to get it overturned, which is loving awful and sets a really, really bad precedent if successful! It's bad enough we already had the gig economy companies all come together last go-around and successfully dupe voters into giving them a constitutional right to continue to absolutely gently caress gig workers over.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 00:35
|
|
|
i just want to smoke my cigarettes cuz it's what i do instead of drinking heavily lol.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 00:39
|
|
|
Sydin posted:Pete says no on 28 but DSA says yes, so Knock is Yes on 28 and Yes on 31. League of Women voters is Yes on 1 and 31 and no recc on everything else. Everyone should vote however they want but I find the prop guides at least to be useful because they're always so intentionally confusingly worded.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 00:55
|
|
|
FlapYoJacks posted:Perhaps nobody should have conversations like that ever, because it’s horrible and has no place in society, private or otherwise? Oh absolutely, that’s a given, but all the more that if you are going to go ahead and actually say poo poo like that how do you not make sure that voters never know about it??
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 00:55
|
|
|
idiotsavant posted:Oh absolutely, that’s a given, but all the more that if you are going to go ahead and actually say poo poo like that how do you not make sure that voters never know about it?? Racists are incredibly INCREDIBLY dumb.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 01:09
|
|
|
FlapYoJacks posted:Racists are incredibly INCREDIBLY dumb.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 03:09
|
|
|
I'm usually with Pete on budget carve-outs but utterly selfishly I will vote yes on 28. Elementary music/arts programs are near-impossible to staff since they get cut first every time budget cuts loom. Things have been funded lately, but it's only been ten-ish years since we were getting pink slipped literally every year. Some stability in funding would do wonders for recruiting and retaining teachers.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 04:43
|
|
|
Hawkperson posted:I'm usually with Pete on budget carve-outs but utterly selfishly I will vote yes on 28. Elementary music/arts programs are near-impossible to staff since they get cut first every time budget cuts loom. Things have been funded lately, but it's only been ten-ish years since we were getting pink slipped literally every year. Some stability in funding would do wonders for recruiting and retaining teachers. Literally, the only two props that I am guaranteed to vote to pass is 1 and 28. I may abstain or shoot down everything else.
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 04:48
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 02:46 |
|
|
yknow, this isn't really the way i expected to see Kevin de Leon in the news again which is to say i wasn't expecting to see him in the news again at all, but...
|
|
#
?
Oct 11, 2022 05:27
|
|