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FLIPADELPHIA posted:I hope the sea snake lives, because it's going to be awesome to see how he reacts. He and Daemon were pretty staunch allies and Corlys didn't really care about the bloodline so I'm guessing he largely ignores it Yeah I think if he lives he shrugs and says "Vaemond was an idiot who stepped out of line". The whole basis of Rhaenyra's (and Rhaenys') argument was that she just was acting out Corlys' wishes in his stead. There is a reason Rhaenys is the only one Viserys asks to speak.
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I like that Rhaenyra's kids and Rhaenys' grandkids actually get on and seem to genuinely like each other, and had zero problem with discovering they've been bethrothed to each other. I guess their gang beatdown on Aemond was a real bonding moment for them  Aegon himself liked his nephews just fine too when he was younger, but welp things fell apart quickly there.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:While I understand and love the nickname King Goon, let's be real. Larys Strong is the gooniest in all the land. Disdain for athletic competition? Check. Socially awkward? Check. And if killing your dad (gently caress you, dad!) and brother (owning the jocks) because you think it will please a woman that has shown you less than zero romantic interest isn't carrying the printer, I don't know what is. Goony performative cane leaning? Check. Possibly lying to impress a girl who is already in a relationship? Check. Vegetable posted:Moving on from Dyana chat, I really enjoyed this interview with Considine. He’s super thoughtful about his characterization of Viserys and seems like such a sweet, fascinating guy. Paddy is going to have his choice of roles from now on. Pennsylvanian fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Oct 12, 2022 |
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Jerusalem posted:I like that Rhaenyra's kids and Rhaenys' grandkids actually get on and seem to genuinely like each other, and had zero problem with discovering they've been bethrothed to each other. I guess their gang beatdown on Aemond was a real bonding moment for them Just don't think too hard about how they likely lived together for years as step-brothers/sisters on Dragonstone. Er, step-siblings/cousins? No, step-siblings/2nd cousins? gently caress, this family tree is a pretzel. Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Oct 12, 2022 |
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Oct 12, 2022 01:34
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Pennsylvanian posted:Goony performative cane leaning? Check. Possibly lying to impress a girl who is already in a relationship? Check. Never heard of the guy before this show and goddamn
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Oct 12, 2022 01:36
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Oct 12, 2022 01:48
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Dude's only 49 and a boxer I'm learning, they all did a crazy good job making him look like the crypt keeper
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Just don't think too hard about how they likely lived together for years as step-brothers/sisters on Dragonstone. Er, step-siblings/cousins? No, step-siblings/2nd cousins? gently caress, this family tree is a pretzel. "So.... my mom and your mom were cousins?" "Yeah, but my mom almost married your granddad." "Right, and your dad is... my mom's uncle?" "Yeah, and your dad was my uncle, and my dad is also now your stepdad because he married his niece who is your mother and now my stepmother, which makes us brother and sister." "So, we should get married?" "I think it is the best idea I ever heard in my life."
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Oct 12, 2022 02:03
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Vegetable posted:Moving on from Dyana chat, I really enjoyed this interview with Considine. He’s super thoughtful about his characterization of Viserys and seems like such a sweet, fascinating guy. Viserys being his favourite character he’s ever played is really sweet to read. He seems like such a nice dude.
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Oct 12, 2022 02:18
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parara posted:Viserys being his favourite character he’s ever played is really sweet to read. He seems like such a nice dude. he gave an all timer performance in a show that is going to be seemingly well received (for now) and well made, thats just fantastic for any actor. To have a final episode like the last one to go out on for your character is like every actors wet dream too! He even got to adlib a bunch of stuff and have it stay in the episode, bringing even greater pathos to the entire thing. Just fantastic.
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Does Daemon have Blackfyre or was that just a regular sword that gacked the Valyron dude ?
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Does Daemon have Blackfyre or was that just a regular sword that gacked the Valyron dude ? he has dark sister (the sword of Visenya targaryen) not blackfyre
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Does Daemon have Blackfyre or was that just a regular sword that gacked the Valyron dude ? He uses Dark Sister. Which later disappears from history when Bloodraven goes missing North of the wall.
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i can only echo all the praise for paddy considine here, absolutely legendary work. this is the first thing i've ever seen him in and now i'll go out of my way to see his performances
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Oct 12, 2022 02:38
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besides everything about viserys my second favorite part was otto's "good" when helaena roasted aegon
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Paddy played the reporter Simon Ross in Bourne Supremacy that gets smoked in the middle of Waterloo Station.
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double negative posted:besides everything about viserys my second favorite part was otto's "good" when helaena roasted aegon
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Yeah I don't have a good grasp on how Otto feels about the grandkids, hope we get some insight into that.
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Vegetable posted:That was funny but also maybe an odd character beat for Otto yeah idk, i just took at otto approving of the first charming, socially competent thing we've ever seen her do. it'd be cool to see his connection to his grandkids expanded on, and i'd really like to get a bit more characterization for baela and rhaena, but i cant imagine the show will have any time for that until next season
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Oct 12, 2022 03:32
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Otto/Alicent don't appreciate Aegon because he is squandering their machinations. They think he should be grateful and be worthy of the effort that they put in, like when they have to murder poor serving girls. 
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Oct 12, 2022 04:03
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otto's kind of gotten the short end of the character motivation stick i think. they just make him do whatever moves the scene forward
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Oct 12, 2022 04:09
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the fact that they didnt show corlys at all makes me think that he's definitely not gonna die anytime soon, which makes vaemond raging out and basically committing suicide even funnier
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double negative posted:the fact that they didnt show corlys at all makes me think that he's definitely not gonna die anytime soon, which makes vaemond raging out and basically committing suicide even funnier He wakes up happy to see all his family except his brother, and everyone gives themselves awkward side eyes about who should tell him. Until Daemon bursts into the room and says he did it.
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Oct 12, 2022 04:18
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The whole cast being related does make me wish we could spend more time in this era. Like, what is Viserys's relationship with his kids with Alicent like? (what was the cut daemon/baela/rhaena scene?)
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Oct 12, 2022 04:25
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Otto is just a classic poo poo dad but marginally okay to good granddad. I choose to believe this.
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parara posted:Otto is just a classic poo poo dad but marginally okay to good granddad. I choose to believe this. so tywin
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Otto/Alicent don't appreciate Aegon because he is squandering their machinations. They think he should be grateful and be worthy of the effort that they put in, like when they have to murder poor serving girls. Aegon just gets the short end of the stick, narratively and in-universe. He doesn't care about court machinations or ancient prophecies, he just wants casual sodomy and lazy afternoons. His brother is the interesting character, since he is a legit sociopath who wants all the murder and intrigue he can get his Innsmouth hands on. And his wife, bless her heart, is a weird goony woman who has no appreciation for casual sodomy. Aegon isn't tragic, he's just plain ordinary. Which isn't a good thing to be in a complex murder show with dragons.
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runaway dog posted:so tywin Rhys Ifans has been channelling Charles Dance's performance since the first episode. That comparison must be what they were going for.
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stev posted:Rhys Ifans has been channelling Charles Dance's performance since the first episode. That comparison must be what they were going for. Yeah the very first thing he said in the first episode I was like, oh ok he's doing a Tywin.
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Rappaport posted:Aegon just gets the short end of the stick, narratively and in-universe. He doesn't care about court machinations or ancient prophecies, he just wants casual sodomy and lazy afternoons. His brother is the interesting character, since he is a legit sociopath who wants all the murder and intrigue he can get his Innsmouth hands on. And his wife, bless her heart, is a weird goony woman who has no appreciation for casual sodomy. Aegon isn't tragic, he's just plain ordinary. Which isn't a good thing to be in a complex murder show with dragons.
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Viserys doing that slow walk to the throne, 9/10 dead and half his face eaten away by fantasy leprosy, just to do what he believed to be right is one of the most dignified things I’ve seen a character do anywhere in any of the GoT TV series (maybe any of the wealth of fantasy series we’ve got now). Paddy sold it so well too. Just an amazingly powerful scene. Over at the acoup blog (which is great), prof Deveraux talks about how medieval nobles did a lot of the poo poo that seems weird to us because their social environment and value system was totally different. Like, we find it easy to understand “don’t marry a peasant girl because it would have XYZ practical consequences” but more likely the nobles would be thinking “don’t marry a peasant girl because that’s what bad, irresponsible people do and I am a good person” (and then rides off to extort and torture some folks and commit murder on demand). Case in point, we now tend to think of war and all its violence and risk and death as a necessary evil in the way of getting some thing that you want, but in earlier posts he had some fascinating writing by medieval European and Islamic nobles along the lines of “Me? I loving LOVE war, it’s the best thing ever, I literally don’t feel alive when I’m not killing people, here’s some poetry I wrote about how awesome it is to get your buddies together and go do some war”.
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Rappaport posted:Can't be too careful with royal seed, my friend
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Otto doesn't have a cool first name and doesn't butcher a deer onscreen and has no cool house sigil, all around Kirkland branded Tywin.
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Mameluke posted:The whole cast being related does make me wish we could spend more time in this era. Like, what is Viserys's relationship with his kids with Alicent like? (what was the cut daemon/baela/rhaena scene?) Yeah at this point I am invested enough in the mains and they've summarised so much of their lives that this war better be good. This episode is strange because I liked it so much but, silly misunderstanding aside, it almost resolved the entire show. I'm not as eager to watch the next ep as I have been.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Viserys doing that slow walk to the throne, 9/10 dead and half his face eaten away by fantasy leprosy, just to do what he believed to be right is one of the most dignified things I’ve seen a character do anywhere in any of the GoT TV series (maybe any of the wealth of fantasy series we’ve got now). Paddy sold it so well too. Just an amazingly powerful scene. Part of the whole I love war poo poo had very much to do with their class position. The nobles at least in europe arose from the mounted warlords that were better at protecting their peasants while screwing over their rivals during. The had to love war because that was pretty much their purpose, that's why they got to live big castle and eat good food because in time of war they have to fight. Also other than warring being their job, wars was great way to capture hostages for ransom.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Viserys doing that slow walk to the throne, 9/10 dead and half his face eaten away by fantasy leprosy, just to do what he believed to be right is one of the most dignified things I’ve seen a character do anywhere in any of the GoT TV series (maybe any of the wealth of fantasy series we’ve got now). Paddy sold it so well too. Just an amazingly powerful scene. In undergrad I took a course called Arab Historians of the Crusades and learned that some of the earliest written porn was Arab crusaders going on and on about what they did/wanted to do to captured Frankish women.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CjmmpZpNquJ/ I didn't make the connection about Viserys accepting his suffering as penance for what he put Aemma through at the end. Paddy really was an inspired casting decision.
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Beefeater1980 posted:
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