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Like people doomscrolling about making Alex Jones pay the money. He's hosed. He has to pay. Shuffling funds around might work when you're doing it right, have the trust of the court, and good lawyers. But Alex Jones is not smart. He's doing it in obvious ways and multiple courts have him dead to rights on lying. At some point he will be absolutely criminally liable if he continues along this path. And then they can just carve up everything while he's behind bars. There is no way out of this. His idiocy led him to this point. Take an anxiety pill. This is a day of celebration.
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Last Chance posted:Sorry if this has been asked about already, just catching up with stuff today. What if Jones just .. doesn't pay and perpetually slows down any enforcement processes? They can seize assets and/or throw him in jail. Bankruptcy court is already very unhappy with Mr Jones
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Last Chance posted:Sorry if this has been asked about already, just catching up with stuff today. What if Jones just .. doesn't pay and perpetually slows down any enforcement processes? He doesn't have a choice. Eventually the state will just seize all the assets and auction them.
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Oct 13, 2022 00:50
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InsertPotPun posted:i love that jones rotates randomly between "i have the number one book in the entire world" and "i have no money" Fascist messaging in a nutshell. We’re the best and also under dire threat by an enemy who is both cunning and pathetic. Edmund Sparkler posted:Was Art Bell really as harmless as I remember? Because I remember being a 90s kid and lolling at bigfoot and area 51 and all that but did it pave the way for these freaks who bought into this poo poo and harassed parents of dead children? Unfortunately not. The man himself was a right wing prick though (probably) not a fascist, but his style of credulous interviewing (feigned to varying degrees depending on your view ) had a lot of impact. For a while he at least paid lip service to keeping overt politics out of his show but as many people note the ‘classic’ antisemitic conspiracies were always there. the yeti fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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Now we find out if Thiel *really* likes Alex. That is if it’s true that he’s the one who sent the mystery $8 million in bitcoin. E: Alex is almost certainly committing wire fraud as we speak. red19fire fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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Oct 13, 2022 00:51
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Alex’s best bet is to flee the country now. I’m not kidding. Even then he won’t be able to maintain his current lifestyle. I bet his ex wife is howling with laughter right about now.
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Oct 13, 2022 00:52
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Grand Fromage posted:He doesn't have a choice. Eventually the state will just seize all the assets and auction them. This was brought up by Mark Bankston, in that they can get a court order and just start seizing assets. Like, being able to show up with a sheriff or bailiff and just start seizing Infowars computers, to start.
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Oct 13, 2022 00:52
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:I finally found a good place to put those stickers.
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Oct 13, 2022 00:54
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red19fire posted:Now we find out if Thiel *really* likes Alex. That is if it’s true that he’s the one who sent the mystery $8 million in bitcoin. I'm not concerned about this either. If Thiel or Elon Musk bail out Jones, that's still a 1 billion dollar defamation charge that he's eating. And that's not sustainable. This verdict is a message to conspiracy theorists out there who make wages on pain and lies.
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I'm just projecting fantasy here, know it's not legal decorum, but imagine if you could be the judge and just stare him in the eyes: "You can't pay the whole thing? Okay. Once everything you and everything associated with you is tracked down and liquidated, every penny you make for the rest of your life is still going to this until you can make the up the billion. Be glad you aren't in prison, it wouldn't go well. Rental assistance and the food bank is that way."
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Oct 13, 2022 01:01
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Frank Frank posted:Alex’s best bet is to flee the country now. I’m not kidding. Even then he won’t be able to maintain his current lifestyle. I bet his ex wife is howling with laughter right about now. That makes me wonder, is there any kind of restriction in place on Alex's travel? If he books a one way ticket to Russia tomorrow, will the authorities have any legal mechanism to stop him or could he just do that in broad daylight?
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Oct 13, 2022 01:07
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Last Chance posted:Sorry if this has been asked about already, just catching up with stuff today. What if Jones just .. doesn't pay and perpetually slows down any enforcement processes? Right now? Not paying is not an option. He hosed around too much during his bankruptcy hearings (big shocker) and the judge put a government auditor in charge of Infowars' business entity to figure out all his finances. The g-man with the ledger will make sure it gets paid.
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Oct 13, 2022 01:07
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Infowars.com has the 'please help me' fund up already. And everything on the store seems to be half price atm too.
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Devils Affricate posted:That makes me wonder, is there any kind of restriction in place on Alex's travel? If he books a one way ticket to Russia tomorrow, will the authorities have any legal mechanism to stop him or could he just do that in broad daylight? No. This is a civil trial, not criminal. He can absolutely leave the country and is probably his best bet for avoiding this judgment. Granted, everything here will be seized that isn’t bolted down but whatever he has squirreled away might be safe-ish depending on where he goes
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Last Chance posted:Sorry if this has been asked about already, just catching up with stuff today. What if Jones just .. doesn't pay and perpetually slows down any enforcement processes? then someone will show up at Alex Jones' bank with a court order saying "see all the money in this account? yeah, that belongs to the plaintiffs now, transfer it over"
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Oct 13, 2022 01:11
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Leaving the country is his only real option. He'd still lose everything, but he could start again and nobody could stop him. Welcome to the new Moscow studio!
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Grand Fromage posted:Leaving the country is his only real option. He'd still lose everything, but he could start again and nobody could stop him. Or he does a John McAffee and flees to Equador.
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Oct 13, 2022 01:15
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Devils Affricate posted:That makes me wonder, is there any kind of restriction in place on Alex's travel? If he books a one way ticket to Russia tomorrow, will the authorities have any legal mechanism to stop him or could he just do that in broad daylight? He can do it if he wants. This is a civil matter, not a criminal one. But he'd still have to defend his assets which are all in the US or in various shell companies in the US or with treaties with the US. His assets would be seized and auctioned off. Any income he made henceforth in the US or in any country the US has strong treaties with would be seized. I think that's literally Jones' best option right now - take everything he can that isn't nailed down, throw it in some crypto, and leave for Russia. He can start a little channel there and live reasonably comfortably, if he could calm down and get on the Jordan Peterson Benzo Diet. But then again he's Alex Jones, he'll make enemies no matter where he is, and in Russia he'll learn what state censorship really looks like.
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Oct 13, 2022 01:15
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Grand Fromage posted:Leaving the country is his only real option. He'd still lose everything, but he could start again and nobody could stop him. It would only take jones about 15 minutes to talk poo poo about the nephew of someone powerful and that would be that
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Oct 13, 2022 01:16
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ashpanash posted:He can do it if he wants. This is a civil matter, not a criminal one. But he'd still have to defend his assets which are all in the US or in various shell companies in the US or with treaties with the US. His assets would be seized and auctioned off. Any income he made henceforth in the US or in any country the US has strong treaties with would be seized. Also a lot of Jones' shell companies are co-owned by Jones' parents, so the government will go after their assets too.
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red19fire posted:Now we find out if Thiel *really* likes Alex. That is if it’s true that he’s the one who sent the mystery $8 million in bitcoin.
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DeathSandwich posted:Right now? Not paying is not an option. He hosed around too much during his bankruptcy hearings (big shocker) and the judge put a government auditor in charge of Infowars' business entity to figure out all his finances. The g-man with the ledger will make sure it gets paid. Seriously, Jones is hosed. Because he hosed things up worse than you will ever gently caress anything up in your lifetime (yes, you, the person reading this post), he's closed off all of the avenues that rich people typically use to avoid consequences. There's a lot of poo poo that can happen still, but Jones isn't escaping a painful, humiliating tearing down of everything he's built. Maybe he'll be dead by the weekend, maybe he'll wind up in prison as the government overseer overturns a mountain of crimes, maybe he'll flee to Russia and start InfoWars 2: Ukraine Has Always Been Russian while living on Putin's dole in a crappy hotel for the rest of his miserable life, maybe he'll be reduced to shouting at people on the street, and maybe he'll keep going as a twitch stream with the families taking 90% of every dollar he ever gets. Whatever the outcome, Alex Jones is suffering and will suffer more. This isn't me being hopeful. There have been too many people going "  nothing matters" in response to this without understanding how deep the hole Alex Jones has dug for himself really is. He's the goon in the well except we all just went straight to pissing into it while he kept digging down.
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Random Stranger posted:Seriously, Jones is hosed. Because he hosed things up worse than you will ever gently caress anything up in your lifetime (yes, you, the person reading this post), he's closed off all of the avenues that rich people typically use to avoid consequences. There's a lot of poo poo that can happen still, but Jones isn't escaping a painful, humiliating tearing down of everything he's built. Maybe he'll be dead by the weekend, maybe he'll wind up in prison as the government overseer overturns a mountain of crimes, maybe he'll flee to Russia and start InfoWars 2: Ukraine Has Always Been Russian while living on Putin's dole in a crappy hotel for the rest of his miserable life, maybe he'll be reduced to shouting at people on the street, and maybe he'll keep going as a twitch stream with the families taking 90% of every dollar he ever gets. Whatever the outcome, Alex Jones is suffering and will suffer more. you don't have to pay your billion dollar obligations if the entire global economic system collapses first *points to forehead*
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Also, a lot of the people that avoid facing that kind of legal consequence are usually smart enough to listen to their lawyers and accountants, and are not too toxic that they can’t get decent ones. Pretty much every lawyer Alex had has either outright said or implied that he runs the show.
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gently caress around and find out indeed
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Jones' whole brand is doubling down. He's gonna have to be carted off in a straight jacket one day to keep him from further violating various legal rulings.
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Oct 13, 2022 01:35
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Let’s see that third comma
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The Butcher posted:I'm just projecting fantasy here, know it's not legal decorum, but imagine if you could be the judge and just stare him in the eyes:
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If someone has non-dischargeable debts, how much money do they get allocated per month for living expenses before the rest of their income gets taken? Could the victims, as the debtors, demand that FSS be wound up and its assets sold immediately so as to bring them the greatest return in the short term, even though that reduces the total percentage of the debt they will be able to recover over time?
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Oct 13, 2022 01:50
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He's Alex Jones. He'd rather die than run away.
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Oct 13, 2022 01:54
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Froghammer posted:He's Alex Jones. He'd rather die than run away. We're all okay with that.
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Oct 13, 2022 01:55
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alex should consider the lowtax solution and im not talking about lowering his tax obligations
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Random Stranger posted:we all just went straight to pissing New thread title if I have ever seen one
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The question someone asked about bitcoin and Jones' wallet, whether or not it could be garnished here. I don't think it -can-, but at some point there is going to be a legitimate audit of his bitcoin wallet. The one that is directly linked as the DONATE TO INFOWARS Bitcoin address. And it's...well, I'm not a crypto nerd, but I've seen people do poo poo like marking massive amounts of locations in the block chain transactions. You know, to make sure that if someone is stupid enough to shuffle money around that they end up doing something akin to if not outright laundering money and committing international wire fraud. It's going to be wonderful if THAT'S what gets Jones thrown in prison, with the IRS coming after him.
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I’m hoping that whenever the outcome (because god I’m still so guarded with hearing good news on these things) the affected families get enough money to uproot and live very comfortable lives in Western Europe or something away from the weird Q crazies jones has stalking them.
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420  unread posts? Verdict must be out, now to brace and read the thread.   Sideshow_Bob's_Laughter.avi gently caress I needed that, this is an happy day. How sharp are the judge knives going to be when she assigns punitives? I assume she started sharpening a whole set from day 1 with how AJ and lawyers behaved in court and out of it. Also, timeline for possible sanctions to AJ's lawyers? Mostly, when will we know wether the judge has started the sanction process?
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what are the limits of punitive measures that the court can impose? imprisonment? electrical chair?
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buglord posted:I’m hoping that whenever the outcome (because god I’m still so guarded with hearing good news on these things) this is not a healthy response to good news
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GreyjoyBastard posted:this is not a healthy response to good news it might not be healthy but it is correct
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