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Sephyr posted:Most likely he'll just move to Hungary or some other chud-friendly country, operate from there, and get proceeds through a shell company/donations. Lowtax didn't have 800k people ready to open their wallets for him at the end. That would imo ultimately be a huge self own for billionaires and remove much of their deniability if things turn against their positions.
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slurm posted:I'm surprised they hit him so hard for this. The threats, lying, targeted harassment etc have seemed so normal for so long that it felt to me like they were just accepted as inevitable now for anyone who was outspoken against the Right. Like this was worth a billion bucks but it's the same poo poo pretty much anyone kiwifarms targeted got, and that's just "boys will be boys" by post-escalator standards. I think a big part of it his how badly he hosed around with the judicial process. He had active disdain for the court every step of the way. Like, there's a lot to be said about the wealthy in the US having access to a different justice from the poor, but the ONE THING that will burn that good grace is someone who actively fucks around with court and it's proceedings. Edit: As a reminder - this whole Alex Jones Court debacle is just the damages portion. He was already had a default judgement against him because he would not stop loving off with discovery. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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Would definitely take a special kind of vampire to create a legal fund for the guy who organized a harassment campaign against victims of a mass shooting before admitting that he made all his accusations up in front of god and everybody, and then fully pay a billion dollars in stock options. I mean if they want whatever brands they associate with to immediately become toxic and explain to shareholders why this was so important, great. I'm sure there will be a wingnut fund that could cover several million at most.
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This AJ news is the nicest thing I've heard today.projecthalaxy posted:https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/...ingawful.com%2F
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Would definitely take a special kind of vampire to create a legal fund for the guy who organized a harassment campaign against victims of a mass shooting before admitting that he made all his accusations up in front of god and everybody, and then fully pay a billion dollars in stock options. Any rando wingnut fund will likely just get rugpulled (and should!) by grifters. At this point, it has to be the big money boys. And i honestly doubt they would suffer any backlash other than snippy Twitter posts and some "we're very concerned" op-eds, and guess what? They already get that. No reason to go all in. Thiel is funding entire academies of fascists and 'dark intellectuals' to go 'Hey, having an Almight Leader is actually cool and good, and you know who would be a good one? Peter Thiel, or someone he likes!", Musk is taking his divorced sperg act all the way into "I had to hug Putin because of the wokes" and is still seen as the avatar of innovation by the 'respectable' institutions, etc. Besides, what else are they going to spend money on. They've been to space, bought the yachts, banged the high-level escorts, injected the teenage blood. Funding Meta? Hah, no. Buying politicians? They're pretty much pre-bought at this stage. Might as well take a giant dump on one of the few wafer-thin barriers to full corporate autonomy. Not saying they will. It could be these egomaniacs are not capable of being in the same Skype call long enough to actually coordinate without starting to one-up each other. But they could, easily, at no consequence.
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Sephyr posted:Most likely he'll just move to Hungary or some other chud-friendly country, operate from there, and get proceeds through a shell company/donations. Lowtax didn't have 800k people ready to open their wallets for him at the end. he isn't going to stop broadcasting or hocking bad supplements no matter what happens, even if there is an injunction and it gets enforced. he'll keep taking donations, too. He won't pay until the IRS or another agency takes the money from him or en route to him and gives it to those who got the judgments. Maybe he'll relent if he's thrown in jail for not paying but any resolution is years and many more legal proceedings down the line while he continues to slander and push harassment. Whether he'll book it, I can't say. He's not good at hiding his money, though.
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The victims will definitely see some money relatively quickly, but there is no way to liquidate nearly $1 billion out of him right now. They'll get a judgement enforced to get a chunk now and then apply for garnishment to slowly recoup the rest as long as Jones still has an income. But, Jones is probably never going to make enough money to fully pay off the judgements and will surely drag it out kicking and screaming. The people who were awarded ~$90 million will likely never fully recoup the judgement.
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Eric Cantonese posted:At this point, it is going to be about how much work you want to put in to enforce the judgment, but there's at least something hanging over Jones' head now that makes his life more difficult. The Sandy Hook parents and their attorneys have been almost inspirational in their mostly unified front and unwillingness to cede any ground. I think they'll enforce this to their dying breaths.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The victims will definitely see some money relatively quickly, but there is no way to liquidate nearly $1 billion out of him right now. My impression is that Jones has a significant amount of liquid holdings in the form of the constellation of entities set up around infowars; I don't know that it's $1 billion, but it may be at least several hundred million.
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Discendo Vox posted:My impression is that Jones has a significant amount of liquid holdings in the form of the constellation of entities set up around infowars; I don't know that it's $1 billion, but it may be at least several hundred million. In the Texas suit, the court estimated his net worth at between $140 and $200 million. I know that the bankruptcy court was getting on him for trying to hide $62 million. That's what I am basing it on, but I don't know how the court actually calculated that.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In the Texas suit, the court estimated his net worth at between $140 and $200 million. I know that the bankruptcy court was getting on him for trying to hide $62 million. I suppose it's possibly as low as that, but for comparison the known "white market" dietary supplement industry in the US is publicly estimated at around 55 billion, and is privately estimated at several times that value- and Jones is by no means a small operator in the field, even if he's not one of the big MLMs. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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Inflation came in higher than expected for September. Ouch. Fed hike likely incoming again. Man, I bought a house in June - and overpaid in a hot market - but my 5% rate is starting to look like a luxury. https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/stocks-markets-today-cpi-inflation edit: And Social Security is getting an 8.7% cost of living bump.
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BonoMan posted:Inflation came in higher than expected for September. Ouch. Boomers win again. 5% is still well below the historical average. Mortgages didn't get to the "basically free money" sub-3% rates until after Covid and only stayed there for about 1.5 years. So, it was a brief window. The average rate in 1990 was almost 11% and it got up to 17% for a year in the early 80's. The galaxy brain move was to buy a house in Washington D.C. in 1990 when people were selling houses for $1 to get rid of the tax liability since nobody wanted to live there and they had high property taxes and then sell it for $3 million in 2015.
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I’m really glad we refinanced in like April of last year This inflation is not unexpected. A lot of analysts have been estimating that it would not peak until next year sometime. The growing problem is that the Fed is just going to make all of this worse in the end, because the rate hikes are not going to have an impact on the sectors where people are being squeezed the hardest (rent, energy bills).
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Parkland School shooter just got sentenced to the death penalty. Barbaric.
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Really, really important to note that the only reason Alex Jones is getting hosed up by the courts is because he refused to play the game. Further, he refused to even let his lawyers play the game. Plenty of lovely horrible people will do what AJ did, and worse, and if they keep their loud mouthed hateful bigot poo poo to just the public realm while letting scumbag lawyers lie the right lies and maintain kayfabe about us being a functional society they'll skate by just fine. Jones is getting hosed up because he broke decorum so hard the system was forced to do something. He ended up with a default judgement for just not doing anything, at all, for years. It would have been trivial to play along and let the parents get single digit percentages of this judgement, then keep shilling boner pills for hundreds of millions of profit.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I’m really glad we refinanced in like April of last year We are basically expecting the Fed to fix a government economic policy problem but our government is too paralyzed and cowardly to do what would work better (addressing supply chain issues and housing and production shortages and increasing taxation on higher earners). These are all problems that are decades in the making and will also take a long time to fix, sadly. I wish I could believe American political culture will change enough to be up for the tasks ahead of us, but I have a hard time seeing it.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The AP took down the original Tweet and issued a pretty big correction, lol. I believe the AP style book calls this a "whoopsie doodle mess up" Giving life in prison was the correct thing to do but boy is this going to be a thing.
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bird food bathtub posted:Really, really important to note that the only reason Alex Jones is getting hosed up by the courts is because he refused to play the game. Further, he refused to even let his lawyers play the game. Been said that you can really tell the level at which the right wing talking heads actually still believe their bullshit right when all the radio shock jocks started dropping from Covid. Jones has gotten away with it for so long that he genuinely believes it and won't stop.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3686293-ocasio-cortez-mocks-fox-news-contributors-28-taco-bell-lunch/amp/ I don’t understand what AOC is getting at here. Is $28 not an average Taco Bell order? I generally end up spending around $20-$30 when I go - it’s not the 90s anymore. Shaming portion sizes just seems kind of gross and counterproductive, if you ask me. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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pencilhands posted:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3686293-ocasio-cortez-mocks-fox-news-contributors-28-taco-bell-lunch/amp/ What the gently caress are you ordering? I don't think I've ever broke $10 on my Taco Bell trips for myself. Maybe the only time I even got up to $20 is buying a group taco box for impromptu catering for a get-together.
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$20 was the Taco Bell challenge amount back in the 2010s but I guess with inflation $28 is a reasonable number if you really want to hate yourself
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GoutPatrol posted:Please, keep making fun of the 28 dollar Taco Bell order, this is now by mod decree. Username/post combo on fuego
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Tacos : $6 Drink : $2 Nachos: $3 1 liter of extra cheese sauce : $17 Someone please help me with my lunch budget my family is drowning in cheese.
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The guy from Fox Business doubled down on Twitter and said "no adult male" could get full from a meal with only 1,350 calories and posted his order. It was two burrito supremes with guacamole, a steak Doritos Locos taco with extra meat, a Doritos Cheesy Gordita Crunch wrap, a large Baja Blast, and an order of Nachos Bell Grande with extra jalapenos and cheese. $25.40 subtotal and he said it was $28 with sales tax. He was obviously lying and went online to find some combo that added up.
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CuddleCryptid posted:That man is eating 3/4 of his recommended calories in a single meal, is he 3000 lbs No, he was skinny and lying on Fox Business.
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This is the nutrition calculator for what he claims is his totally average $28 meal from Taco Bell that he eats all the time. This is what he looks like: https://twitter.com/EricKleefeld/status/1580238761358946305
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