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There's also the consideration that government spending contributes to GDP, so on a strict technically-according-to-economists level the mobilization and the associated spending count as a positive in the (very) short term.
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khwarezm posted:Um, is this reliable? I feel like the Economist would be less inclined to take a pro-Russian stance if it could be avoided: Well, let’s actually read the article. Things it says about Russia: - “Economic situation is improving” - vague - “Growth potential of Russia halved” - vague, and not really that good, you know? - “Fossil output down 3% and may fall after European embargoes come into effect” - don’t you say, also looking forward to the climb - “250-500k Russians fled in first 6 months, most highly educated” - climbing - “bank run and ~300k more fled since mobilisation” - climbing intensifies - “worker shortages are worsening, compounding inflation woes, with the worst ahead for services sector” - enhance climbing - “recession probably has ended” - probably doing plenty of work here - “GDP figures published are widely doubted” - thanks for overtly alluding to using them - “Goldman Sachs has a model” - riveting stuff, really - “Sberbank also says that things are getting better” - I wonder if risks of acute window sickness may influence this - “car manufacturing sector has bounced back” - vague, also there’s a lot of room to bounce from 90% down to X% down - “monthly goods imports almost certainly exceed the last year’s in dollar equivalent” - this is vague in like 3 separate ways - “IMF now expects a GDP decline of 3.4% instead of 8.5%” - someone remind me what recession is defined as - “Russia will be able to keep fighting” - vague Seems to be a classic case of a bad headline, and a covert “Europe bad” article from the Economist. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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I just read dipshit extraordinaire/ Apartheid baby Elon Musk just cut off Ukraine from Starlink in Crimea because he fears nuclear war (after talking with Putin and becoming his new Reek). Can someone explain to me why the US military can't tell this loving moron to shut the gently caress up? What exactly qualifies you as peace negotiator? The ability to snort Ketamine and Tweet at the same time? I'm so sick of that loving clown getting involved with every world affair, and thinking he is the secret brain genius. TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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TulliusCicero posted:I just read dipshit extraordinaire/ Apartheid baby Elon Musk just cuff of Ukraine from Starlink in Crimea because he fears nuclear war (after talking with Putin amd becoming his new Reek). Please slow down, exhale, and reread the things you read slowly enough to contextualise the available sources for these claims.
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Flavahbeast posted:its happening Vicious suicide ram at a surveillance camera? Slightly confused over here.
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I thought that unboxing videos went out of fashion already.
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Nenonen posted:I thought that unboxing videos went out of fashion already. Oh poo poo, is that where the spyderco knife I seem to have lost ended up?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
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https://twitter.com/ian_matveev/status/1580499038788808704 Speculative Russian air defences malfunction in Belgorod. Edit: https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1580307229650997249 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/Denys_Shmyhal/status/1580540354738388992 Huh, seems important.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Vicious suicide ram at a surveillance camera? Slightly confused over here. Took me two watches, but I'm pretty sure the drone filming is the one maneuvering into the other one. The altitude means the ground isn't perceptibly moving in frame and makes it look like the filming drone is static and the other one moving.
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khwarezm posted:Um, is this reliable? I feel like the Economist would be less inclined to take a pro-Russian stance if it could be avoided: Not really sure, but there's a history: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/05/07/russias-economy-is-back-on-its-feet https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/10/russias-economy-appears-to-be-back-on-track https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/08/23/why-the-russian-economy-keeps-beating-expectations https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/10/11/as-europe-falls-into-recession-russia-climbs-out
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Not really sure, but there's a history: They've been pretty adamant the last few months that sanctions alone will not end the war and that Ukraine must be armed to the point that they can drive Russia out sooner rather than later. This is a continuation of that argument.
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Flavahbeast posted:its happening
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Charlz Guybon posted:This is the equivalent of of WWI reconnaissance pilots shooting at each other with revolvers in 1914. Actually, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Nesterov
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quote:The town of Zhovkva (currently in Lviv Oblast, Ukraine), located near the battle, was renamed Nesterov in his honor in 1951. You will notice that the Ukrainian town of Zhovkva is in fact not named Nesterov as of this reading 
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saratoga posted:They've been pretty adamant the last few months that sanctions alone will not end the war and that Ukraine must be armed to the point that they can drive Russia out sooner rather than later. This is a continuation of that argument. I’m not sure who hasn’t been adamant that sanctions alone won’t end the war. Kikas posted:https://twitter.com/Denys_Shmyhal/status/1580540354738388992 I’m afraid this is the least important of the 3 European councils.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I’m not sure who hasn’t been adamant that sanctions alone won’t end the war. The Economist tends to specialize in smug, smart-sounding articles that don't actually tell you very much.
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Deteriorata posted:The Economist tends to specialize in smug, smart-sounding articles that don't actually tell you very much. You tell me, I'm a subscriber to their print edition.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I’m afraid this is the least important of the 3 European councils. Yes, I am aware. However it's still one of the three, so they might inspire others. Still, this wouldn't change much in Government to Government communication, while severely loving up life for people of the ground, so I'm not sure this would be a wise decision.
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Kikas posted:Yes, I am aware. However it's still one of the three, so they might inspire others. It's like a European UN, it's not going to inspire anyone to do anything.
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https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/10/05/in-comparison-with-all-the-other-senseless-actions-the-gas-siege-of-the-eu-barely-registers https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/88062 Two good articles on Russia's gas economy and the Nord Stream sabotage. The second one won't tell you anything new unless you're Jeffrey Sachs, but the first one is very detailed.
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Feliday Melody posted:You will notice that the Ukrainian town of Zhovkva is in fact not named Nesterov as of this reading quote:The name Zhovkva, which is the Ukrainian version of the historic Polish name, was restored in 1992, after Ukraine became independent of the Soviet Union.
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Yes, that was my point. Ukraine had very little interest in honouring a long dead Russian/Soviet war hero with whole towns named after him.
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Enjoy posted:Forcing Russia to divert resources from the front to protect infrastructure 200km away is a very good outcome Somehow I don't think a boat would do much good in Kherson or Kreminna.
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Enjoy posted:Forcing Russia to divert resources from the front to protect infrastructure 200km away is a very good outcome I don't think that ship had much value at the front.
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sniper4625 posted:https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1580262767507881986 "Better hope it doesn't rain or that boat might suffer the same fate as the Moskva" -The Russian government
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I would imagine there's also a lot of performative security theater going on at the bridge right now as well. If the official line is that the x-ray'd truck was missed and made a boomie the bureaucratic response will be the Russian equivalent of every one spending four hours in line at TSA taking off their shoes and belts. So logistics are probably screwed even without another attack.
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Anyone remember the craziest weapon buyer Poland? Turns out US might not be keen on selling 500 HIMARS systems, since it's pretty bonkers... So Polish Gov went on another buying spree in South Korea and got 300 pieces of K239 Chunmoo, which to my untrained eye look comparible. The kicker: there's no info about that HIMARS order being cancelled... I'm willing to bet those PiS idiots will buy at most 2 loads of cheapest missiles per launcher..
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bird food bathtub posted:I would imagine there's also a lot of performative security theater going on at the bridge right now as well. If the official line is that the x-ray'd truck was missed and made a boomie the bureaucratic response will be the Russian equivalent of every one spending four hours in line at TSA taking off their shoes and belts. Logistics are definitely screwed. Not sure how bad trains are backed up, but they have a similar situation of 50% reduction in capacity, so my guess is it's all FUBAR'd: EDIT: actually it'd be worse for trains, there's no switch track along the entire length of the bridge, so any train going the opposite direction has to wait for the train on the bridge to travel it's entire length before it can even start. https://twitter.com/BenDoBrown/status/1580385992791334912?s=20&t=voh69BBdQyrVe7ZgjFIOJQ Orthanc6 fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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So the story about Extreme Networks breaking a ban on selling IT equipment to banned countries got me thinking about IT in general in Russia. Intel and other chip makers are banned from selling chips to Russia right? Does that extend to wholesale of desktops/laptops from vendors like Microsoft/Apple/Asus/etc. or can your average Russian citizen/business buy that stuff still?
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