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Angepain posted:https://twitter.com/rainbowgreens/status/1581674500050952192 This is great news. The E&W Greens are better than labour but they still permit a minority to spout bigotry under the guise of 'discussion'. Hopefully this is the kick of the bum they need to finally purge.
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feedmegin posted:To be fair, unlike Erdogan, at least the wider party actually listened and forced her to pull back on all that poo poo. Truss's new economic policy lasted, like, a week? the "facts are just doomerism" crowd is still there and being Editor of the Sunday Telegraph... Hunt's direction remains to be seen CON analysts are fully aware that they need to balance the books of new growth targets and costly crisis subsidies by discarding the triple lock, which attacks their core constituency. This may not be a big deal in a GE (what are they going to do, vote Labour?) but is in a intra-CON fight. The knives being out for Truss only makes that problem thornier. Hence all the indulgence of fantasists previously stewing in Brexit
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OwlFancier posted:Do they hire a posher class of peon for the posh shop? Oh hey neighbour. There's a Booths in Ripon too. It's nice but eye wateringly expensive even by the Australian supermarket standards that I'm used to. Apparently they've built a new M&S here too since I moved abroad but yet to find it. Not sure how a town this size can support both a Booths and large M&S with the economy in the shitter. Booths was pretty deserted the other day but Aldi was packed.
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OwlFancier posted:Do they hire a posher class of peon for the posh shop? Booths is Northern Waitrose yes, they've basically got England divvied up between them with a demilitarised zone somewhere around the Midlands.
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ronya posted:CON analysts are fully aware that they need to balance the books of new growth targets and costly crisis subsidies by discarding the triple lock, which attacks their core constituency. This may not be a big deal in a GE (what are they going to do, vote Labour?) but is in a intra-CON fight. Those Red Wall pensioners actually might.
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Ah north yorkshire is weird like that, big mix of mega poshos and dirt poor. Think it's popular for people to retire to and all the escape to the country types like it. Can't blame em, it is lovely country, but yeah it makes for some weird stuff. Lewis and cooper in northallerton has a bunch of nice cheese and meats and stuff, and weird packaged goods. And you can visit the electronics shop that rishi pretended was a pub.
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Mega Comrade posted:This is great news. The E&W Greens are better than labour but they still permit a minority to spout bigotry under the guise of 'discussion'. Hopefully this is the kick of the bum they need to finally purge. I mean, now that a large number of their critics just split off to form their own party, I'd expect the transphobes to have more power in the E&W Greens now, not less.
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Gort posted:I mean, now that a large number of their critics just split off to form their own party, I'd expect the transphobes to have more power in the E&W Greens now, not less. If you mean the Scottish Greens then they didn't just split off, they've been separate parties since 1990. This is just suspending one of the few ties they had remaining, something to do with allowing E&W members to attend conference in a non-voting capacity - it's largely a symbolic gesture. feedmegin posted:Booths is Northern Waitrose yes, they've basically got England divvied up between them with a demilitarised zone somewhere around the Midlands. Booths is in a poor tactical position then, surrounded on both sides due to the Scottish waitroses. Actually apparently there's one at Gretna so they're right on the border. Sounds like justification for military action
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Booths is actually localised almost entirely to lancashire and the lakes, ripon is the easternmost outlier but there's none on the actual east coast. E: except for, funnily, another construction company also near me 
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OwlFancier posted:Ah north yorkshire is weird like that, big mix of mega poshos and dirt poor. Think it's popular for people to retire to and all the escape to the country types like it. Can't blame em, it is lovely country, but yeah it makes for some weird stuff. i’ve been told that lots of southerners sold up during the previous house price boom and moved up when house prices were much smaller, doing the whole FIRE thing several decades earlier
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Guavanaut posted:new chancellor who dis? new thread title please
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Yeah that's the thing I've mentioned before about high house prices, people say that it doesn't actually benefit the homeowners because they can't cash out, but the thing is you can cash out if you aren't tied to a specific location, because you can sell up, move somewhere cheaper or where the economy is even more dead (like the north) and get a small fortune in your back pocket and still own a really nice house because a 20-30% differential between areas (or higher if you're moving out of london) is still a massive pile of money when the prices are so high. And while I might be an exceptionally dull person there is genuinely nowhere else I would rather live than here, I know you often grow to love where you live but it is an extraordinarily beautiful place.
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That's a different version of REM's " Losing My Religion. "
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Angepain posted:https://twitter.com/rainbowgreens/status/1581674500050952192 Good, although I feel bad as always for the trans peeps in the Green Party. As I've said before it's a generational thing where the young are leftists and the old are eco-fascists.
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah that's the thing I've mentioned before about high house prices, people say that it doesn't actually benefit the homeowners because they can't cash out, but the thing is you can cash out if you aren't tied to a specific location, because you can sell up, move somewhere cheaper or where the economy is even more dead (like the north) and get a small fortune in your back pocket and still own a really nice house because a 20-30% differential between areas (or higher if you're moving out of london) is still a massive pile of money when the prices are so high. Now, even places like liverpool are shooting above 200k because of tiktok landlords who only understand Britain as a monoculture, and will happily pay dipshit prices because they know they can make it back in 5 or 10 years by driving rents up.
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Spins the wheel of low-effort dystopiaBobby Deluxe posted:tiktok landlords
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OwlFancier posted:And while I might be an exceptionally dull person there is genuinely nowhere else I would rather live than here, I know you often grow to love where you live but it is an extraordinarily beautiful place. Yeah I have to say I am seeing North Yorks in a very different light now relative to when I left at 18. Couldn't wait to leave then and now I'm back for a few months showing my Australian born toddler around the beautiful places I took for granted when I was a kid. Honestly really enjoying it. Everywhere is great when you're effectively on holiday though. Living and working here again would be a whole different proposition. Partner is definitely keen to move back to the UK properly but she really isn't fully aware of how bad things are getting. Aus has some pretty serious issues too but the UK is far more bleak.
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Less on fire though, and also you don't have to constantly check for deadly wildlife.
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Imagining Steve Irwin with his foot on the neck of a chav going "Croikey, look at this angry lil fella go!"
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Sorry yes I should amend that to deadly wildlife living inside your shoes, at least.
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Beefeater1980 posted:There is actually some consistency - although not really fairness - here. The sane conservative objection to the Corbyn government I along with most of this thread voted for was that it would result in exactly this collapse in market confidence. It’s the real-world reason to fear a radical government, because it will inevitably involve a substantial amount of misery for everyone in the short term. It’s a legitimate concern. I'd venture that a radical left wing budget would have less of an effect on the market because every Labour manifesto since 2017 has been fully costed and people like John McDonnell have spent a lot of time wargaming various events of this nature, so they actually know how to deal with them. Unfairly as you say, conservatives always get a free pass on economic matters and that's led to complacency over time. It was inevitable they'd one day trip over their own dick, then have no idea how to get out of the gutter. ronya posted:CON analysts are fully aware that they need to balance the books of new growth targets and costly crisis subsidies by discarding the triple lock, which attacks their core constituency.
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/sundersays/status/1581352682979479552 Labour tabling a confidence vote would be a huge misstep unless they can guarantee Tories will vote against their leader. If the usual Tory self-preservation kicks in it'll give Truss an easy pass to rally support around her.
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/sundersays/status/1581352682979479552 If Keith was cool he would ask his first question and after Truss answers he gets up, points at oval office and says "I was hoping the real PM would answer". The Guardian and Twitter would love it.
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notaspy posted:If Keith was cool [...] The Guardian and Twitter would love it. I'll take "things not very likely to happen" for 10
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EvilHawk posted:Labour tabling a confidence vote would be a huge misstep unless they can guarantee Tories will vote against their leader. If the usual Tory self-preservation kicks in it'll give Truss an easy pass to rally support around her. Would it be a huge misstep for all of the Tories to be shown to support their hugely unpopular leader? Pretty easy to campaign against someone when you can say “this bastard voted to keep Liz Truss”
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Ah wow... an unexpected "they all look the same" fuckup https://twitter.com/AlStewartOBE/status/1581416990098345984
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Now, even places like liverpool are shooting above 200k because of tiktok landlords who only understand Britain as a monoculture, and will happily pay dipshit prices because they know they can make it back in 5 or 10 years by driving rents up. Dabbing on the haters when they complain that their heating isn't working properly. Rent deposits to be made out to YeeLord69 in DogeCoin. I will enter the apartment without any further announcement on my hoverboard.
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fuctifino posted:Ah wow... an unexpected "they all look the same" fuckup
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Gort posted:I mean, now that a large number of their critics just split off to form their own party, I'd expect the transphobes to have more power in the E&W Greens now, not less. What? Scottish greens have been separate for years. This is just a further tie that they are severing.
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I''m going in to interview/meet citizens advice this week. I thought about it before but it wasn't really doable with my schedule, but I'm free now and looking over the training and stuff they provide on top of the volunteering it seems like an extremely good idea. Do any of you volunteer with them? I'm going in anyway and I'm going to commit to the 8 hours they're looking for, at least, for a good while and see where it leads but I'm just curious if anybody has any insights or opinions on it who has done/is doing it.
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EvilHawk posted:Labour tabling a confidence vote would be a huge misstep unless they can guarantee Tories will vote against their leader. If the usual Tory self-preservation kicks in it'll give Truss an easy pass to rally support around her. Nah. Totally politically crippled, least popular politician in history Liz Truss zombie shuffling to the next election is the ideal scenario for Labour. The Tories installing Sunak at least gives them a slim (and it is slim, I think, despite the general idiocy of the English electorate) chance of not losing too terribly in 2024. If Truss is still PM, though, it's almost certainly a '97 style landslide.
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I still think there's a chance she'll pull a tantrum and try to force a GE. She's spent the weekend holed up in Chequers, cutting more and more people out of her life with each change of her telephone number, and she feels really really bitter. Nobody stood up for her like they did with Boris, and he stole far more public money than was lost with her poo poo budget, yet they applauded his exit. The media didn't give her an easy time, and she feels really poo poo, lonely and isolated. On top of all of this, all of Boris's things will still be at Chequers if he's not even there in person (is he still in NY?), as he's still squatting the mansion for some reason. One way to get out of PMQs on Wednesday is to drive to Buckingham Palace just beforehand and dissolve parliament. "Ha! That'll show them!".... I know this is mostly wishful thinking, but I'm praying to the cat gods that she's as bitter and vindictive as I think she is. lol
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roomtone posted:citizens advice my MiL has worked in a central London branch for like 20 years and the current view is that while the work is valuable, it's not reaching enough people fast enough because it's hampered incessantly by insane amounts of internal bureaucracy
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DesperateDan posted:some steel wool stuffed into the foam will make it a lot stronger and stop rodents eating it like it was cake too Posting to confirm, lived in a port city in a basement
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Keith did a Keith https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1581752508094984198
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kecske posted:my MiL has worked in a central London branch for like 20 years and the current view is that while the work is valuable, it's not reaching enough people fast enough because it's hampered incessantly by insane amounts of internal bureaucracy They had me manually copying and retyping client records from one database to another, one at a time. It was insane and I was very quick to point out the obvious potential for mistakes to creep in and cause records to get lost.
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