The fund may have lost a lot of money and goons in need may go hungry but for a short time, the admins felt popular and their friends got some brain tingles out of breaking something so who's really to say what was good or bad
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:Yeah, but the hardcore plinkey sycophants might not be representative of everyone donating. We don't know how many goons currently give to the fund because they want to help other posters, but do so under some duress as they feel uncomfortable with how the fund is structured. In the last two days, since this has all blown up, the patreon has already gone down $300.00, and I don't doubt that there are more goons currently giving who in the coming weeks will also decide to drop off from this cause in order to divert it to the more transparent fund. 16-bit Butt-Head posted:people are sincerely trying to help you guys set up a mutual aid fund that can both get you more money for needy goons and show that goons are actually receving the money and you keep insulting them for it lol Eat poo poo and don't post again unless you've set everything up for your mythical better fund
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:14 |
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Reprehensible idea: i like good thing. now that it's increased in scope perhaps it's time to reevaluate the organization of said good thing.
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:15 |
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Plinkey's been awesome and polite about help. My cats and fish appreciate it, as do I because my meds went up in cost. And their butts tend to explode. But Plinkey helped me out a lot with exploding cat butts and meds. Also, you can be responsible about it and just not have enough to donate. Poverty sucks. That said, I've been going through YNAB the steam app thinger, so I know what's going and where. Sort of a kick in the face realization. No budget meant my money was here or there.
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:15 |
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I got the tude now posted:Reprehensible idea: i like good thing. now that it's increased in scope perhaps it's time to reevaluate the organization of said good thing. ok thats not how this started and you know it
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:15 |
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Plinkey posted:nice way to hang your rear end out to dry im only a man
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:15 |
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croup coughfield posted:ill be real with you man: i dont think this is just people stirring up drama for fun. i think they're legit concerned about potential corruption and have some perfectly normal reasons for being so. i just think its stupid to get heated over this particular issue and people should leave well enough alone yea the drama goons probably hate drama
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:15 |
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I got the tude now posted:Reprehensible idea: i like good thing. now that it's increased in scope perhaps it's time to reevaluate the organization of said good thing. gently caress off, nobody is fooled by your dumb concern troll
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:16 |
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I got the tude now posted:what level of concern would not be dramatic in your eyes? i'm being sincere when i say i think the fund is a good thing. yeah no one is arguing for the fund to be taken away people just want some transparency and accountability because this is a lot of money for asingle person to handle and even if plinkey is trustworthy which i dont think he is a single person running it is a disaster waiting to happen
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:16 |
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d&d won't raise money for kids in the concentration camps (camps over which they've probated people for calling them what they were), raised money for ukrainian naizs, but is now up in arms over somebody setting up the forums equiv of a leave-a-penny cup. sounds about right. Gene Hackman Fan has issued a correction as of 22:19 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:Ok I don't give a poo poo if this is trolling or whatever but you're a reprehensible person, should be banned for this post alone, and I hope the next time you're dependent on help from someone else that they treat you just as callously. lmfao
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:16 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:gently caress off, nobody is fooled by your dumb concern troll ?????????????????????? you're off your head bud. i want this thing to run smoothly.
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:17 |
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croup coughfield posted:ill be real with you uh huh
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:17 |
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multiple people came forward in qcs to say that asked for money when they needed it and didn't get a response, this is a failure full stop. it would be nice if it didn't happen again and the person who is responsible for letting these requests fall through the cracks at least had something to say about it.
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:18 |
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287 posts in the thread that gets four posts a month, probably for a good reason
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:19 |
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I got the tude now posted:multiple people came forward in qcs to say that asked for money when they needed it and didn't get a response, this is a failure full stop. it would be nice if it didn't happen again and the person who is responsible for letting these requests fall through the cracks at least had something to say about it. there was one person who plinky apologized too.
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:20 |
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I got the tude now posted:multiple people came forward in qcs to say that asked for money when they needed it and didn't get a response, this is a failure full stop. it would be nice if it didn't happen again and the person who is responsible for letting these requests fall through the cracks at least had something to say about it. hopefully your fund is more effective
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:20 |
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I got the tude now posted:multiple people came forward in qcs to say that asked for money when they needed it and didn't get a response, this is a failure full stop. it would be nice if it didn't happen again and the person who is responsible for letting these requests fall through the cracks at least had something to say about it. thank god you're here to ask the important questions
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:20 |
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I got the tude now posted:multiple people came forward in qcs to say that asked for money when they needed it and didn't get a response, this is a failure full stop. it would be nice if it didn't happen again and the person who is responsible for letting these requests fall through the cracks at least had something to say about it. gee, when the people who contribute towards it have had to stop on occasion you think that's gonna cause any complications or anything or are you just really angling to be on the board of directors for this officially registered goonfund?
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:21 |
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I got the tude now posted:multiple people came forward in qcs to say that asked for money when they needed it and didn't get a response, this is a failure full stop. it would be nice if it didn't happen again and the person who is responsible for letting these requests fall through the cracks at least had something to say about it. Do you get like, good boy points or some poo poo for continuing to post trash when nobody wants you here? Are you like 14 and you just think it's funny? Or did you just grow up rich and don't give a poo poo?
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:21 |
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this system could be better
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:23 |
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I got the tude now posted:this system could be better and here's how you can play your part
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:23 |
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loling at all the people super mad at tude, who is a perfect angel
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:24 |
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:25 |
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I don't post on these forums anymore but like, lay off Plinkey. he has paid me almost every month for over a year while I've been on the street idk what exactly the concern is but it's nothing that can't be solved by "stfu about plinkey and his thing and go make your own fund if you think we need more accountability"
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:25 |
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Segata Sanshiro posted:I don't post on these forums anymore but like, lay off Plinkey. he has paid me almost every month for over a year while I've been on the street i can get people riled up and also hurt people if i get plinkey to stop doing it
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:26 |
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Plinky is a degenerate gambler who is stealing all of the money and also he eats kittens and puppies for breakfast. He should be permabaned along with every other cspam poster why wont anyone respond to my good faith reasonable criticisms?
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:26 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:Do you get like, good boy points or some poo poo for continuing to post trash when nobody wants you here? Are you like 14 and you just think it's funny? Or did you just grow up rich and don't give a poo poo? If you think they are a moron then just wait until you see the rest of them
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:27 |
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seems like the best suggestion to any goon considering to take up an altruistic project: keep it secret, because god knows there's a lot of posters in these forums who won't rest until everybody else is as loving miserable as they are.
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:28 |
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VideoKid posted:Plinky is a degenerate gambler who is stealing all of the money and also he eats kittens and puppies for breakfast. He should be permabaned along with every other cspam poster i hope you're not implying i've said this, b/c i believe the opposite!
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:29 |
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plinkey should spend the money to buy every goon enrollment in some kinda class to learn how to process their emotions in a healthy way
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:30 |
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i don't understand why nobody thinks i am genuinely concerned about the nature of this project, all i did was ask how come the person running didn't deny they were legally obligated to register as a moderator it's a perfectly important question to ask
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:30 |
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:i don't understand why nobody thinks i am genuinely concerned about the nature of this project, all i did was ask how come the person running didn't deny they were legally obligated to register as a moderator it's a perfectly important question to ask i did start off being pretty aggro eyah lol
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:31 |
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i'm a complicated guy :littleangel:
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:32 |
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croup coughfield posted:plinkey should spend the money to buy every goon enrollment in some kinda class to learn how to process their emotions in a healthy way yeah I'm still on board with helping the drama goons
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:33 |
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I got the tude now posted:i did start off being pretty aggro eyah lol okay, and have you done anything about fixing that or are you just here to jerk off?
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:33 |
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The thread for a properly tax code integrated and professionally and independently maintained goon fund that will somehow also be swift and not keep personal information while having less "overhead" is already sputtering out/becoming meta-commentary, people here just trying to take the piss and worry-warts should move over there to keep it on the first page imho, you've caught the car good luck and gently caress off
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:33 |
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Siegkrow posted:That's 300 dollars less to help people until someone can loving prove that Plinkey is skimming off the top. Lets do some thought experiments here. How much money does the fund have? I don't mean income, I mean how much is currently sitting in there. Are we assuming that the fund is operating at a net-zero? Is ~3200 going in each month, and exactly ~3200 is going out to pay goons? I doubt it, but lets assume so. This is really precarious! Lets assume hypothetically that Plinkey is kicked off Patreon today, for whatever reason. 3200/mo becomes 0/mo. If the fund is operating at a net zero, then the fund is suddenly completely unable to help anybody until Plinkey is able to secure a new source of donations. Wouldn't the people giving money like to know if that is the case? I sure would! More likely than that, the fund is not operating at net zero, and there is excess money left over each month. Hopefully this money is being kept in an account where it can accumulate interest and can be accessed when the need arrives, say if the Patreon starts to dry up but people are still in need.. But we don't know how much is in there and that's a problem! Lets say of the 3200/mo, 2200 is going out to goons. So there would be 10,000 excess funding so far from this year, that should be sitting in an account, enough to cover 4-5 months of that same rate. That would give Plinkey plenty of time to continue supporting goons while trying to re-secure the funding. Great! But lets say there's a lot less money sitting around (because we have ZERO idea how much money there is!). Lets say there's only about 100 dollars leftover at the end of each month, and Plinkey is not able to sustain the fund without the Patreon. Wou'dnt you want to know if the fund's existence was this precarious? Letting the community know "hey, our funds are a bit low right now" would be a fantastic way to secure more donations, because I can't imagine anybody who is currently giving would want to see this thing fail. And another hypothetical, lets say that the fund is doing really well, and there's more like 30k sitting around. Don't you think, if that was the case, that there are some donors out there who might take that information and reduce their current pledge? I'm sure that not everyone currently giving is totally financially stable. Without being properly informed about the financial wellbeing of the fund, some of these individuals might feel pressured into giving more than they really feel comfortable. Anyways, none of this even takes into account the possibility that amounts might be skimmed off the top. We don't need to consider that at all, because no matter how you slice it, the failure to disclose financials is automatically misappropriation. It doesn't matter if Plinkey is putting the money into a bank account, or if he's hording it in his sock drawer. it doesn't matter if he is shoving it into a huge cartoon money bag and dragging it straight to the casino, it doesn't matter if he is throwing dollar bills out the window at homeless people, or if he's feeding they money to an alligator at the zoo. The fact that it is unaccounted for is unethical, end of story. People are giving money to a specific cause, and people have a right to know how that money is being used for that cause.
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:35 |
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Epic High Five posted:The thread for a properly tax code integrated and professionally and independently maintained goon fund that will somehow also be swift and not keep personal information while having less "overhead" is already sputtering out/becoming meta-commentary, people here just trying to take the piss and worry-warts should move over there to keep it on the first page imho, you've caught the car good luck and gently caress off yeah it's playing out how some of us in the qcs thread thought it would lol can't believe none of them are helping out!! feeling betrayed
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 22:36 |
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Epic High Five posted:The thread for a properly tax code integrated and professionally and independently maintained goon fund that will somehow also be swift and not keep personal information while having less "overhead" is already sputtering out/becoming meta-commentary, people here just trying to take the piss and worry-warts should move over there to keep it on the first page imho, you've caught the car good luck and gently caress off weird, I wonder who started it
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