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CharlieFoxtrot posted:keep or mull genuinely don't think you've posted a 'would you keep this hand' in here and have had the answer be 'yes'
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Oct 17, 2022 18:06
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:keep or mull This is unquestionably a mull.
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Oct 17, 2022 18:20
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for a hot minute there i kept seeing Silverback Elder in random decks and i'm just like, i see the appeal, but still, no
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Oct 17, 2022 18:42
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:keep or mull your posts? mull to zero please.
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Oct 17, 2022 18:48
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Oct 17, 2022 18:49
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this is quite possibly the best turn of historic brawl i've ever had https://www.17lands.com/user/game_replay/1b4ee9fc65dc47bb9a52c2e589850b34/31969835/1666029304 black market connections -> early treasure to cast the first sliver, cascade into fight rigging, fight rigging to cast verdant rejuvenation for free, vomit out seven permanents including scholar of the lost trove to recast verdant rejuvenation a second time for free vomiting out even more permanents  not bad for only having four lands out
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Oct 17, 2022 18:59
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keep that hand amd if you dont draw red by turn 2 concede and dismantlye the whole deck
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Oct 17, 2022 20:41
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never mulligan in constructed believe in the heart of the cards
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Oct 17, 2022 20:42
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i like how Standard has the manabase right now to support all kinds of nonsense goodstuff decks, but i'll also be glad when it all rotates out and presumably we go back to two color decks
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Oct 17, 2022 21:00
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I hope when the pain lands come out in brothers war that we get a good 5c control deck, the most fun type of deck
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Oct 17, 2022 21:16
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Kashuno posted:I hope when the pain lands come out in brothers war that we get a good 5c control deck, the most fun type of deck What kind of 5c control deck are you imagining that badly needs the 4 other pain lands and can't exist right now with SNC trilands and the existing 6 pain lands?
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Oct 17, 2022 21:23
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No basics, painlands only, final destination.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:33
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The Domain deck is legit, I was able to casually cruise to Mythic in Bo1 with it
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Oct 17, 2022 21:53
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I'm playing 22 mountains because I don't own a Sokenzan
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Oct 17, 2022 22:03
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What decks would be enabled if mtgbro has the tron lands?
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Oct 17, 2022 22:03
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Thranguy posted:What decks would be enabled if mtgbro has the tron lands? Forget about the tron lands and bring back Mishra’s Factory. Edit hey wait apparently they are bringing it back! Cool Flowers For Algeria fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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Oct 17, 2022 22:17
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i hope we don't get tron lands. Because I enjoy playing arena pauper and artisan, and the formats will get worse with those.
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Oct 17, 2022 22:29
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Forget about the tron lands and bring back Mishra’s Factory. Don't get tricked like everyone else 
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Oct 17, 2022 22:36
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:keep or mull Whats your plan if you keep this?
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Oct 17, 2022 22:45
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Pocky In My Pocket posted:Whats your plan if you keep this? I guess the question with the deck is "how bad is skipping turn 2" (my current gut is "very bad and you should mull") most recent one:  i mulled this one too into 6 with a t2 play, got run over by mono-R Edit: is this just an aggressively mull kind of deck or is my luck terrible right now lol 
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Oct 17, 2022 22:51
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I think you have a different definition of aggressively mulligan than I do
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Oct 17, 2022 23:00
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flatluigi posted:I think you have a different definition of aggressively mulligan than I do I guess the default assumption is that you build a deck that you get a good 7 the majority of the time, right? And that if your hand isn't the "nut draw" the grey area is between decks that could draw into better shape in one or two turns, or the more combo-ish decks that need to mull to a winning hand because they can't rely on drawing one or two cards? It's hard for me to get a handle on what this deck wants yet I guess. Meanwhile  
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Oct 17, 2022 23:28
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a deck that you're aggressively mulliganning is something like the greasefang deck where you're fine going to 5 if it has the right cards in it. mulligans to 6 are just something you're going to do a good chunk of the time with any deck just because sometimes you get a bad opener even with the arena bo1 opener algorithm
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Oct 18, 2022 00:00
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Every single hand you’re asking about has twinflame in it like it’s a deck that can win turn three but it’s not gonna always be consistent. Recognize your deck
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Oct 18, 2022 00:06
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Feel like a deck that wants to win super early has to mulligan more often because a lot of hands can't win super early Meanwhile a control deck might be like "oh I'll lose a turn with this hand, that's fine there's plenty to come, I'll just stall with this spell I can play for sure, that's the plan anyway"
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Oct 18, 2022 00:10
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Yeah I guess that makes sense. Oh well, my first 7 was an insta-mull so this is my 6 that i also have to mull lol 
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Oct 18, 2022 00:52
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an exercise for the reader: without looking ahead, give me your thoughts on the first picks of pack 1 in this draft. this was my first DMU draft since since release week, these picks was really tough and I'm curious if people would arrive at the same choices (at least until pick 7 which turns the draft into an on-rails RW bonanza). the games were pretty funny too, especially the last 3 games which were like a progression through the final bosses of the format. what a deck.
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Oct 18, 2022 02:37
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also it looks like they added a set collection tracker??? it's hidden all the way in the profile menu. if you click on a set icon it gives the breakdown of cards you're missing by color and rarity, which is pretty useful (though it doesn't give exact numbers, just percentages)
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Oct 18, 2022 02:39
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kalel posted:also it looks like they added a set collection tracker??? it's hidden all the way in the profile menu. if you click on a set icon it gives the breakdown of cards you're missing by color and rarity, which is pretty useful (though it doesn't give exact numbers, just percentages)
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Oct 18, 2022 03:38
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from what i can tell it tracks how many individual cards you have a copy of until you fill out that rarity (i think??), at which point it flips to a gold bar tracking how many total cards you have up to a playset of each individual
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Oct 18, 2022 04:05
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quite stretched out posted:from what i can tell it tracks how many individual cards you have a copy of until you fill out that rarity (i think??), at which point it flips to a gold bar tracking how many total cards you have up to a playset of each individual Yes that’s exactly it.
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Oct 18, 2022 06:48
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Yeah I guess that makes sense. there's also the other option you can go for, which is: you've picked up a list that someone else has brewed, why not see if there's something you can tweak and see if it works better for you? if i was personally tweaking it and i had hands like the ones you've been getting, i'd personally be poking at the manabase a little? maybe go to 4x mountains and forests to get 3x of ziatora and jetmir triomes, or even see if this is somehow the right deck for the domain enabling land everyone was down on from DMU, thran portal (which is quite possible, given how many taplands you're running and how early you want the deck to go off) basically: don't be afraid to experiment, even with lists pro players have made and ran with. the worst case is that you learn why the original list was tuned the way it was in the first place; the best case is that you find the right cards to succeed in your localized meta. just, stick with your tweaks across a half dozen games at least just so you're not kneejerking back and forth off of variance
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Oct 18, 2022 07:43
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40 lbs to freedom posted:never mulligan in constructed believe in the heart of the cards
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Oct 18, 2022 09:05
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Completed my collection of DMU. Sadly don't really have any stats since I drafted mostly on mobile but the most success I've had in this draft format was with controlling Sultai Domain decks and aggressive GRx domain decks. Coalition Warbrute and Colossal Growth go very late and you can get some really fast kills with those (and Gaea's Might of course). Also drafted a decent amount of Wx aggro-ish decks and UR spells but those didn't work out as well for me.
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Oct 18, 2022 10:36
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Retcon posted:Completed my collection of DMU. Sadly don't really have any stats since I drafted mostly on mobile but the most success I've had in this draft format was with controlling Sultai Domain decks and aggressive GRx domain decks. Coalition Warbrute and Colossal Growth go very late and you can get some really fast kills with those (and Gaea's Might of course). Also drafted a decent amount of Wx aggro-ish decks and UR spells but those didn't work out as well for me. I've basically never had GRx come together for me (and when I've tried, I've ended up feeling very underpowered), but I find RW go-wide is a very consistent 4-3 or better in best of one. Maybe I'm bad at drafting lands highly enough? Agreed that (usually blue spells or black graveyard based) Sultai value piles are great though. And UR spells can be very hit-or-miss in my experience too.
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Oct 18, 2022 12:24
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What are people's win rates in DMU draft btw? Currently around 58% but only managed like 12 drafts due to moving house, trying to cram some more in now
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Oct 18, 2022 13:33
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Death of Rats posted:I've basically never had GRx come together for me (and when I've tried, I've ended up feeling very underpowered), but I find RW go-wide is a very consistent 4-3 or better in best of one. Maybe I'm bad at drafting lands highly enough?
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Oct 18, 2022 13:41
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MikeCrotch posted:What are people's win rates in DMU draft btw? Currently around 58% but only managed like 12 drafts due to moving house, trying to cram some more in now 
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kalel posted:an exercise for the reader: without looking ahead, give me your thoughts on the first picks of pack 1 in this draft. this was my first DMU draft since since release week, these picks was really tough and I'm curious if people would arrive at the same choices (at least until pick 7 which turns the draft into an on-rails RW bonanza). p1p1 I'm between Elder Dragon War and Weatherseed Treaty probably. Both are really good. I think I'd go with Elder Dragon War because the thing can be a blow out against the aggressive decks that seem to be popular right now and later just cashing in for a 4/4 flyer for 4 is a pretty good fail case, but I wouldn't fault anyone for Weatherseed Treaty here p1p2 Dragon Whelp, Argivian Cavalier, Tolarian Terror are my options. Whelp keeps me in red but isn't especially great, so I think I'd narrow it down to terror or cavalier. I'd spec on Terror though since it is not easy to get them these days and Elder Dragon War and Terror can definitely end up in the same UR spells deck. Don't think I'm at a point where I'd take a land here. p1p3 Tough pick. I think Iconoclast makes sense given the land you picked last pack. Nothing here really stands out to me, I'd take Idllyic Beachfront if I took Terror p2. p1p4 great red doesn't seem to be coming, I'd take Joint Exploration as a spec pick here and an out to go into UG if I wanted. p1p5 I think here it'd be making a stand time. It's possible that there just hasn't been good red to reach you coming around. Steelcrusher and Whelp are both fine, I think I'd spec on whelp here p1p6 another dragon whelp, I think I'd go with that. p1p7 easy take up the shield here p1p8 I'd take Cleaving Skyrider over Keldon Strike team, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I'm not even sure if that's right, but I've won a lot of games off of Skyrider flash to burn out my opponent p1p9 Argivian Phalanx for me, Tori has been completely unimpressive for me I went through the rest of the draft after that and it looked like a very good WR deck! getting two(!) heroic charges p3p8 and p3p11 is really good.
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