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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Tesseraction posted:

dunno why but I like the implication that you can trade in any old person's valid passport in order to get your own
Well there was that person who helpfully left a bag of passports on a goon's door, passports for everyone!

E: what a terrible snipe. 243 is my pin number or something, here is doggy deluxe:

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Oct 18, 2022

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you're self employed perhaps a letter from HMRC might suffice?

Kale
May 14, 2010

Maugrim posted:

Quite a good correlation though

May - boring, grey, immovable
Johnson - all paper-thin excuses and no substance
Truss - CUT TAXES CUT SPENDING

Clearly the only solution for this congo line of bad governments is to just vote Tory even harder next time

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

escapegoat posted:

A provisional license is valid ID, costs £34, £14 to renew.

A lot of places don't accept a provisional driving licence as valid ID.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
Take up the White Man's burden, have done with childish days
https://twitter.com/NotABigJerk/status/1582330801819381762

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Failed Imagineer posted:

Mean while all those smug continental types are swanning around in their Schengen Zone passport-free. And the only reason that Ireland isn't part of that club is because we wanted to hang around with the UK while they threw a strop.

Within Schengen you'll still need photo ID which will be either your passport or an ID card which is just the important page of your passport on a card. Driving licences are not usually valid as a proper ID for anything important, though you'll probably get away with it.

e: got my EU settled status recently and while the upgrade from pre-settled was easy to do, it's still a bullshit hoop to have to jump through and I'm interested in the outcome of the court case against the Home Office that some watchdog started to stop them from requiring people to re-apply

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Apraxin posted:

Take up the White Man's burden, have done with childish days
https://twitter.com/NotABigJerk/status/1582330801819381762

First it was Thatcher, then Supernanny, now it's this

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Children from all backgrounds should feel comfortable singing for a ghost from the Levant to protect the brother of a paedophile. This is normal.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


What a ridiculous jingoistic load of poo poo, you don’t need to be from an ethnic minority to hate the national anthem, it’s a loving terrible song

My children have my complete support in refusing to sing it, I’d go so far as to say not singing the national anthem is a British value

Testro
May 2, 2009

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

A lot of places don't accept a provisional driving licence as valid ID.

Can you elaborate as to which places don't accept a provisional driving licence as ID?

I only have a provisional driving licence (my passport ran out over a decade ago). I've not had a problem so far, but I'm wondering where I might run into issues in the future / what might have changed during the pandemic.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Literally never encountered anyone ever treating a provisional as lesser to a normal license as ID goes.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Testro posted:

Can you elaborate as to which places don't accept a provisional driving licence as ID?

I only have a provisional driving licence (my passport ran out over a decade ago). I've not had a problem so far, but I'm wondering where I might run into issues in the future / what might have changed during the pandemic.

Some banks won't.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

While there isn't really any justification for it I guarantee you'll find some loving idiot who sees the word "provisional" and decides to have a strop about it.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

provisional driving ID is the main form of proof of age to get into sticky floor night clubs in market towns

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Scientastic posted:

What a ridiculous jingoistic load of poo poo, you don’t need to be from an ethnic minority to hate the national anthem, it’s a loving terrible song

My children have my complete support in refusing to sing it, I’d go so far as to say not singing the national anthem is a British value

It's a miserable dirge of a tune. At least the French & Italian anthems are good uplifting tunes to go with the bloodlust lyrics.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Just checked the Halifax (bank) and the provisional can be used for proof of address but not of identity.

https://www.halifax.co.uk/securityandprivacy/privacy/proving-your-identity.html

Also, a couple of weeks ago we were adding a further signatory to our flats' residents' bank account and the person concerned had no full driving licence or passport (she's in her 80s) and getting proof of id that was acceptable was a right pain.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that when it comes to Voter ID a provisional won't be acceptable.


(I used to use my provisional as an ID card in Cairo where some places required you to hand in ID to security (not just show but actually leave it with them) before you were allowed in eg the AUC bookshop off Tahrir Square).

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Only Kindness posted:

Who's that blonde lady?

She's a minor royal or someone, idk.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

It's a miserable dirge of a tune. At least the French & Italian anthems are good uplifting tunes to go with the bloodlust lyrics.
Even the Canadian one correctly identifies that it's pretty far north and has trees.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I always thought the French national anthem was pretty good. Nothing about subjecting ourselves to monarchy.

Polly Pickpocket
May 14, 2012
Welsh anthem best anthem

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Ah gently caress this, bet I got covid. SO tested positive, I get a cold and today I had a fever of 39.9 degrees C. I need to work up the effort to take a home test, but I hate it so much, hurts like hell.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




His Divine Shadow posted:

Ah gently caress this, bet I got covid. SO tested positive, I get a cold and today I had a fever of 39.9 degrees C. I need to work up the effort to take a home test, but I hate it so much, hurts like hell.

Wishing you a quick recovery, I got it for the first time 3 weeks ago and still trying to shake the post covid malaise

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Polly Pickpocket posted:

Welsh anthem best anthem

Needs to be sung by 10k+ people, same as the Italian one.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

While there isn't really any justification for it I guarantee you'll find some loving idiot who sees the word "provisional" and decides to have a strop about it.

I once gave my provisional to a bartender to show I was old enough to drink and he looked at it and was offended I'd used such a cheap fake because "driving licences aren't green"

luckily my sister's friend was also working the bar and knew me and had to come over to him and explain that only full ones are pink, y'numpty

then I ordered a spirit and mixer like the child I was

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Driving licences are no longer a valid form of ID when it's to do with government agencies or anything employment related,

and yes I am fully aware of how batshit that sounds.

It's because of brexit and every employer having to prove that each new employee has the right to work (although with anything government funded like the NHS they are having to go back and check all employees). People from the EU can get a driving licence but they may not have the right to work or universal credit, so they blanket made driving licences invalid as ID.

This same logic is going to apply to voting if they bring in ID for that.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

His Divine Shadow posted:

Ah gently caress this, bet I got covid. SO tested positive, I get a cold and today I had a fever of 39.9 degrees C. I need to work up the effort to take a home test, but I hate it so much, hurts like hell.

Good luck with it. Take it as easy as possible (as easy as you can get away with, really, be ruthless if necessary). Even if initially you don't feel too bad. If you need to sleep, sleep for as long as required. A fair few anecdotes and some (fairly recent and admittedly small scale) evidence suggests that full rest during the infection period slightly lessens your chances of ongoing issues/long covid.

EDIT

NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:

Wishing you a quick recovery, I got it for the first time 3 weeks ago and still trying to shake the post covid malaise

I was still having issues a month later and still wasn't 100% at six weeks. Again, try to rest as humanly possible.

Covid really does seem to respond pretty well to genuine rest (or, to put it another way, it responds very badly to just trying to power through)

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


If Truss gets rid of the triple lock on pensions, surely that’s game over for the Tories? Who’s left to vote for them?

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

quote:

Chinese diplomat involved in violence at Manchester consulate, Conservative MP says

Alicia Kearns, chair of the Commons foreigns affairs committee, said the violence was a “chilling escalation” of China’s crackdown on pro-democracy protests.
Kearns said: “We cannot allow the CCP to import their beating of protesters, their silencing of free speech
x

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Scientastic posted:

If Truss gets rid of the triple lock on pensions, surely that’s game over for the Tories? Who’s left to vote for them?

i think the idea is the treasury are using her to kamikaze all the things they don’t like while they still have the chance

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

*pointing Spider-Men meme*

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

importing chinese state violence will drive down the cost of domestically manufactured state violence which would be bad for the tories who own shares in the domestic state violence industry.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

We must protect our home grown British silencing of protests and beating up of protestors by Cruella Bravermann.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
if only some railings outside the Chinese embassy were classified as national infrastructure

escapegoat
Aug 18, 2013

learnincurve posted:

Driving licences are no longer a valid form of ID when it's to do with government agencies or anything employment related,

and yes I am fully aware of how batshit that sounds.

It's because of brexit and every employer having to prove that each new employee has the right to work (although with anything government funded like the NHS they are having to go back and check all employees). People from the EU can get a driving licence but they may not have the right to work or universal credit, so they blanket made driving licences invalid as ID.

This same logic is going to apply to voting if they bring in ID for that.

I was able to use my provisional as ID for a DBS check this year, though that was a renewal rather than a new one.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

escapegoat posted:

I was able to use my provisional as ID for a DBS check this year, though that was a renewal rather than a new one.

Provisionals are accepted for new ones as well, I know cause I process them :)

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


OwlFancier posted:

While there isn't really any justification for it I guarantee you'll find some loving idiot who sees the word "provisional" and decides to have a strop about it.

There was one time my foreign (EU) passport wasn't enough as a proof of ID in a sainsburys.

I argued for a while but it was no use lol, "that's foreign we don't accept that, it needs to be in English" and all that.

Like I can see the logic since it's not in English so they rely on me telling them which date is the correct one.

Still boiled my piss to no end. I can't loving get an English passport you twats (or at least couldn't at the time, anyway).

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 18, 2022

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

learnincurve posted:

This same logic is going to apply to voting if they bring in ID for that.

In NI you can get an electoral card by going to their office/filling out a form/getting your photo taken and they send it out to you a couple days later - handy too since it's valid photo id for some other things too

I'd hope they do something similar

Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009
Truss has said the state pension may not go up with inflation - thats another nail in the coffin for her tenure.

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Incredible. If they can't support the elderly then they have truly reached their nadir, where they can do nothing but eat themselves.

I can't hope for that much, but it would be truly amazing if they really did sink far enough that the SNP became the official opposition. The roiling steam of gammon-scented piss would blot out the sun.

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