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Caesar Saladin posted:I will never ever play a visual novel, they just seem like immature choose your own adventure comic books that take 100 times longer to read. Some of them don't have choices
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Oct 19, 2022 02:52
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or they have choices that only unlock after going through the whole thing and restarting
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Oct 19, 2022 02:58
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From the ones I've seen VNs are like comic books without bespoke drawings for each scene. As much as I don't care for comics or manga I can appreciate what the medium is for and does well. What's the point of the visuals in VNs if they're just static images of characters in various stock poses?
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Oct 19, 2022 03:05
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Caesar Saladin posted:I will never ever play a visual novel, they just seem like immature choose your own adventure comic books that take 100 times longer to read. Adventure games are Visual Novels with failure states. Adventure Games are Good
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Oct 19, 2022 03:13
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Oct 19, 2022 03:30
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999 and VLR are both better than any dark souls game. And it's not even close.
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Oct 19, 2022 03:39
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they both just look like anime trash to me, i'd just read a comic
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Oct 19, 2022 04:29
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I spent a long time trying to write a visual novel but it's straight up impossible to create actual gameplay in one and all the major VN engines have only the loosest support for things like variables and have virtually zero support for things like idk, having skill checks in dialog, of tracking inventory or skills, etc. Like you would think an entire genre about reading dialog and then choosing dialog choices would at least do the things with dialog that other, less dialog-focused games do with their dialog.
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Oct 19, 2022 05:31
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Interactive Fiction seems cool thoughbut I have no idea how to write it
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Oct 19, 2022 05:32
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Have you tried the new call of duty bundle at domino’s?
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Oct 19, 2022 05:35
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Remember Yo Noid and how a person sued dominos because they thought the Noid was created to mock them Yo Noid on NES was cool
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Oct 19, 2022 05:37
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deep dish peat moss posted:I spent a long time trying to write a visual novel but it's straight up impossible to create actual gameplay in one and all the major VN engines have only the loosest support for things like variables and have virtually zero support for things like idk, having skill checks in dialog, of tracking inventory or skills, etc. Maybe try something like Choice of Games?
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Oct 19, 2022 05:41
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I want to do the kind of interactive fiction that has a text parser (which is way beyond me - like Zork or whatever, text-based adventure games). Choice of Games is kind of cool though because they will actually hire you to write games in ChoiceScript if you're good at it. It just doesn't really have any of the gameplay mechanics I want either (or it didn't last I checked). As far as I know its skill check system is very binary (pass if you have X of a variable, fail if you don't) but the kind of game I want to make in that kind of framework would require lots of interactions between skills to generate success chances and etc. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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Oct 19, 2022 05:44
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Oh poo poo, I meant lil Caesars
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Oct 19, 2022 05:46
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Just use Ren'Py and write whatever custom logic you need in pure Python.
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Oct 19, 2022 05:55
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I don't want snakes in my computer
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Oct 19, 2022 06:03
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deep dish peat moss posted:I spent a long time trying to write a visual novel but it's straight up impossible to create actual gameplay in one and all the major VN engines have only the loosest support for things like variables and have virtually zero support for things like idk, having skill checks in dialog, of tracking inventory or skills, etc. There are games that combine visual novel storytelling with actual gameplay though, for example the story modes in the Blazblue games are all VN stories with fighting-game matches sprinkled throughout. Not that common though because devs who want to make an 80 hour extremely anime story with actual gameplay usually just make a jrpg instead of a VN.
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Oct 19, 2022 06:21
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deep dish peat moss posted:Remember Yo Noid and how a person sued dominos because they thought the Noid was created to mock them I recall their reaction being a bit more extreme than that
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Oct 19, 2022 08:46
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deep dish peat moss posted:I want to do the kind of interactive fiction that has a text parser (which is way beyond me - like Zork or whatever, text-based adventure games). Choice of Games is kind of cool though because they will actually hire you to write games in ChoiceScript if you're good at it. It just doesn't really have any of the gameplay mechanics I want either (or it didn't last I checked). Try the Inform language, it's the most popular language for creating the same format of IF game as Zork etc, and the latest version Inform 7 has natural language syntax to make it more accessible to non-programmers. As in, this is literally what the source code for an Inform 7 game looks like: code:https://ganelson.github.io/inform-website/ Item Getter fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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Oct 19, 2022 09:49
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natural language syntax sux, you still have to memorize it because the keywords still do specific poo poo just like { or = does in C. it just lies about being natural so it looks better for the first 15 minutes before you learn it and doesn't scare people off
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Oct 19, 2022 10:10
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:natural language syntax sux, you still have to memorize it because the keywords still do specific poo poo just like { or = does in C. it just lies about being natural so it looks better for the first 15 minutes before you learn it and doesn't scare people off the image AIs are doing their best, please be patient they are still learning
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Oct 19, 2022 10:19
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deep dish peat moss posted:Remember Yo Noid and how a person sued dominos because they thought the Noid was created to mock them Game was so good, but I made it past the skateboarding level I believe once in my life
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Oct 19, 2022 13:22
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deep dish peat moss posted:Remember Yo Noid and how a person sued dominos because they thought the Noid was created to mock them The guy did more than sue them, he actually took hostages and held a gun to them in a dominos because his name was Kenneth Noid
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Oct 19, 2022 13:33
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Caesar Saladin posted:The guy did more than sue them, he actually took hostages and held a gun to them in a dominos because his name was Kenneth Noid Sounds like they should've avoided him.
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Oct 19, 2022 13:46
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Did he know the frequency though?
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Oct 19, 2022 13:48
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Rascar Capac posted:Sounds like they should've avoided him. But the No Noid policy was what created the issue in the first place!
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Oct 19, 2022 15:03
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disgusting
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Oct 19, 2022 15:06
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lol lmao
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Oct 19, 2022 17:14
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a lot of visual novels are written by people who think that more = better
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Oct 19, 2022 17:19
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That sure is a UI of something alright. Edit: Ah it's a card game 
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Oct 19, 2022 17:39
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Gnome de plume posted:I recall their reaction being a bit more extreme than that They were just playing a 5 hour Yo Noid! sesh, no big deal
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Oct 19, 2022 18:07
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Caesar Saladin posted:I will never ever play a visual novel, they just seem like immature choose your own adventure comic books that take 100 times longer to read. there are some gem vn games. hatoful boyfriend is loving hilarious (vn / dating simulator, but with pigeons. evil pigeons.) and doki doki literature club is a send-up of the genre, somewhat analogous to what evangelion does for mech anime. there are also VN-aligned games (e.g. phoenix wright / danganrompa / professor layton pretty much are VN with puzzles.) i will agree that most vn are crap.
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Oct 19, 2022 18:47
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Cyberball was better than Madden.
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Oct 19, 2022 19:00
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All arcade sports games are better than all simulation sports games. Disagreement means a week in the hole.
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Oct 19, 2022 20:22
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Literally A Person posted:All arcade sports games are better than all simulation sports games. Disagreement means a week in the hole. I will accept this, but cars don't count as a sport
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Oct 19, 2022 20:32
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arcade sports car racing games are significantly better than home computer car racing sims, if only because you're sitting in a huge cockpit with a stick shift
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Oct 19, 2022 20:44
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Fur20 posted:arcade sports car racing games are significantly better than home computer car racing sims, if only because you're sitting in a huge cockpit with a stick shift If you're enough of a manchild you can have this at home too
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Oct 19, 2022 20:51
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If you're even more of a manchild there's always F1.
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Oct 19, 2022 20:53
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Devils Affricate posted:If you're enough of a manchild you can have this at home too hey actually simracing is for Cool and Rad dudes I think you'll find
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Oct 19, 2022 20:57
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:hey actually simracing is for Cool and Rad dudes I think you'll find Oh boy all the rules and regulations of real motorsport. Although anything's better than letting you rewind time. I like Gran Turismo but getting Project Cars was a huge mistake. I can't always be bothered to set up the wheel and pedals and this game is basically unplayable with a controller. Your driver robotically snaps the wheel back and forth 90 degrees no matter how careful you are. I've barely touched GT7 since it came out because of how greedy it is. In GT Sport driving 26 miles each day gave you a free car, and you could do anything for it, like complete the challenges and licences or just mess around in VR. By the end of its life I had nearly every car and only had to buy a few of them. In GT7 90% of the time you get pocket change. Unless you do the most optimal race over and over or loving automate it with remote play then you'll never afford most of what the game has to offer.
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