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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/N3weis/status/1581016676916596736

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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/N3weis/status/1581018012081004544
https://twitter.com/N3weis/status/1581019130052120577

https://twitter.com/endsanctions/status/1581020781726773248

https://twitter.com/titoisteDz/status/1581018294810595328

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

now thats fking epic

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
“Napoleon’s greatest failure, outside of restoring slavery….”

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world
i liked a lot of adam curtis stuff i saw in the past but you can't really unsee his liberalism. a tell is that he keeps saying "power" where a scientific person would say "capital"

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Ferrinus posted:

i liked a lot of adam curtis stuff i saw in the past but you can't really unsee his liberalism. a tell is that he keeps saying "power" where a scientific person would say "capital"

yeah his entire thesis relies on how big men and big ideas have shaped modern history. he's an entertaining stylist but ultimately worthless

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Raskolnikov38 posted:

“Napoleon’s greatest failure, outside of restoring slavery….”

we can blame that one on his cuckqueen

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

adam curtis is a conservative

one of his most annoying points is that all revolutions have "failed" because they didn't solve all the problems

a conservative?...

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

BornAPoorBlkChild posted:

a conservative?...

yeah. his question: "do you really want change?" the answer, if you take all of his work at face value, is "NO!"

i really think he paints change, in general, in a bad light. note that is totally anti-marx. there is no such thing as change and no-change. the world is always, always changing. and not because alan greenspan ate ayn rand's pussy and lied to bill clinton.

there is no class analysis. like Ferrinus said, there is only this undefined thing called "powah."

you can't call him a revolutionary pessimist, because apparently that's its own thing. but he's neither optimistic nor revolutionary.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
wait, what was that about rand and greenspan?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Cuttlefush posted:

wait, what was that about rand and greenspan?

he was in her weird sex-positive pseudo-cult and reportedly performed cunnilingus on her despite her refusing to be hygienic

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
gently caress it, I'll give that a dudes rock

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

yeah. his question: "do you really want change?" the answer, if you take all of his work at face value, is "NO!"

i really think he paints change, in general, in a bad light. note that is totally anti-marx. there is no such thing as change and no-change. the world is always, always changing. and not because alan greenspan ate ayn rand's pussy and lied to bill clinton.

there is no class analysis. like Ferrinus said, there is only this undefined thing called "powah."

you can't call him a revolutionary pessimist, because apparently that's its own thing. but he's neither optimistic nor revolutionary.

he's a new dealer/socdem or whatever that's called
i wouldn't say he paints change in a bad light, it's just that his life's work has been portraying neoliberalism and of course that will be portrayed in a bad light. if you're watching something like "hitler: rise to power" you're not gonna bitch about the tone being very negative, lol
as far as optimism, it's hard to be an optimist in the real world. iirc he opened and closed his last work (can't get you out of my head) with graeber's quote "The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make. And could just as easily make differently."

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Doktor Avalanche posted:

he's a new dealer/socdem or whatever that's called
i wouldn't say he paints change in a bad light, it's just that his life's work has been portraying neoliberalism and of course that will be portrayed in a bad light. if you're watching something like "hitler: rise to power" you're not gonna bitch about the tone being very negative, lol
as far as optimism, it's hard to be an optimist in the real world. iirc he opened and closed his last work (can't get you out of my head) with graeber's quote "The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make. And could just as easily make differently."

I'm sorry i just... cannot get over that 'Adam Curtis is a conservative' take

that is some serious Horseshoe Theory brain:stare:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
what if Adam Curtis made a Hitler documentary

makes u think

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

what if hitler made an adam curtis documentary

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

what if Adam Curtis made a Hitler documentary

makes u think

Hitler Curtis 🧲

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
adam curtis is probably a net benefit for now. he'll have to go eventually though.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

lumpentroll posted:

what if hitler made an adam curtis documentary

3 hours long, about 15 minutes on adam curtis and the rest is about hitler himself

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

"Aber dann passierte etwas Seltsames."

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 78 days!
who is adam curtis

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

A miserable pile of clipshows.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

croup coughfield posted:

who is adam curtis

a british person

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

BornAPoorBlkChild posted:

I'm sorry i just... cannot get over that 'Adam Curtis is a conservative' take

that is some serious Horseshoe Theory brain:stare:

fine he's not a conservative he's just afraid of change and thinks every revolution was a bad idea.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

fine he's not a conservative he's just afraid of change and thinks every revolution was a bad idea.

Wish there was a word for that

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

I thought he supported the collectivist mass action of the civil rights movement but believes that the individualist inwards-seeking of the hippies overtook it. Basically he covers many revolutions that got overtaken by selfish desires.

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

a british person

all i need to know. kill him.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

a british person

Disgusting

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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i thought "well, they're on their voting bullshit again, lets go see who they're running" and as far as i can tell, its no one, not even on dem tickets. so just promoting the act of voting with no analysis and more importantly no goal. meanwhile the topic for my local chapter meeting tonight is enbys. just so tired man. i watched the vid for a few minutes until joe started talking about 1/6 again. this is the internationally recognized party of socialism in the united states.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

croup coughfield posted:

meanwhile the topic for my local chapter meeting tonight is enbys.

lol what the

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
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i havent worked with them in awhile, but i still get their emails, and it seems like every meeting is "raising awareness" bullshit. brother, if someones already a member of the party, they dont need to raise their awareness. they need a political education followed by something to actually do. pick a ballot initiative or something, anything

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

croup coughfield posted:




i thought "well, they're on their voting bullshit again, lets go see who they're running" and as far as i can tell, its no one, not even on dem tickets. so just promoting the act of voting with no analysis and more importantly no goal. meanwhile the topic for my local chapter meeting tonight is enbys. just so tired man. i watched the vid for a few minutes until joe started talking about 1/6 again. this is the internationally recognized party of socialism in the united states.

ask for a point to be put on the agenda about defending Haiti from the US-led invasion

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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though otoh even a few years ago their meetings were just a half-dozen bluehairs and greybeards gumming sandwiches and swapping stories about the old days of the anti-vietnam movement for the 1000th time so theres progress i guess but the timetable is not working for me

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Atrocious Joe posted:

ask for a point to be put on the agenda about defending Haiti from the US-led invasion

you have to vote for the party doing the invasion because that's how you stop fascists from taking over

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth

croup coughfield posted:

i havent worked with them in awhile, but i still get their emails

Your party/branch is cool with you not attending all meetings, not doing any work with them, and they just email out their meeting info to said non participants? Complete opposite of what I'm getting into, this party is way more militant.

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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droll posted:

Your party/branch is cool with you not attending all meetings, not doing any work with them, and they just email out their meeting info to said non participants? Complete opposite of what I'm getting into, this party is way more militant.

whats the party

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth
Uhhh you don't know my party she goes to another school

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

croup coughfield posted:

[meanwhile the topic for my local chapter meeting tonight is enbys.

lmao

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