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headcase posted:I want to try the "be a ninja with genji and still get back to save your team" thing that good players do, but I don't have the confidence. When I see a healer with a good escape on our team, so basically Moira, I'm happy because I know as Kiriko I dont have to keep constantly peeling to my other support to help them fight some flanker and I can go and do cool things like get a cheeky support pick. If we have a Zen I'm just sad and 75% of the time for good reason. Just Chamber fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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Is Moira's range longer than the graphic or was I just lagging or something? I last played OW1 just before she came out. In OW2 I've had a few instances where I was, ahem, strategically falling back, and I'd die to her despite being across the room. With her POV on the death cam I'd see the beam end several feet in front of me but I was still getting shredded. On a sprinting soldier 76 for the last instance. I played a ton of Symmetra in OW1 so I'm used to the beam lock-on, not having it feels wrong to me. I also lost all my Roadhog skills, he was my second most played in OW1 and I'm terrible with him now. I think I have just enough bad habits and wrong info from early OW1 that I'd be better off coming in as a brand new player.
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Oct 20, 2022 20:37
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bagrada posted:Is Moira's range longer than the graphic or was I just lagging or something? I last played OW1 just before she came out. In OW2 I've had a few instances where I was, ahem, strategically falling back, and I'd die to her despite being across the room. With her POV on the death cam I'd see the beam end several feet in front of me but I was still getting shredded. On a sprinting soldier 76 for the last instance. you're probably getting dinged by poison orb, as it has a fairly large radius and is what most moiras will throw out like 90% of the time if their team isn't in a bottleneck where they can bounce it like a racquet ball against a wall
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Oct 20, 2022 20:56
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headcase posted:I want to try the "be a ninja with genji and still get back to save your team" thing that good players do, but I don't have the confidence. I know you can do it!!!!
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Oct 20, 2022 21:03
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Okay I got to play one round of attack on Temple of Anubis thanks to the Assault Map Rotation in Arcade and I changed my mind it can stay gone and buried. Still a really pretty map though.
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Oct 20, 2022 21:38
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Moira is a bullshit character.
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im glad the dumb 2cp maps and shield meta are gone, at least down where i'm at here in wood tier.
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Oct 20, 2022 21:56
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Bleck posted:Moira is a bullshit character. YOU'RE A BULLSHIT CHARACTER!
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Oct 20, 2022 21:56
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Played as Brig the other day and kept getting dumpstered by Sombra. She’d hack me and then one-clip me before I could get my shield/cooldowns back. A couple games later I played as Sombra and just ruined the game for the enemy Brig; she couldn’t turn around fast enough to block the hack and her stocky hitbox was pretty easy to hit from just outside of flail range. Anyways it’s a really weird meta when Sombra hard-counters Brig, so she probably needs a nerf right quick.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:It's incredible how a match turns around when someone switches to sombra and keeps jumping me. AndNowMax posted:Played as Brig the other day and kept getting dumpstered by Sombra. She’d hack me and then one-clip me before I could get my shield/cooldowns back. A couple games later I played as Sombra and just ruined the game for the enemy Brig; she couldn’t turn around fast enough to block the hack and her stocky hitbox was pretty easy to hit from just outside of flail range.  I had a mosquito Sombra in mystery heroes last night who would destealth hacking me, start shooting wildly, teleport out the instant I shoot back, then repeat like a full minute later. Then later that team got two Tracers. It's like gently caress off, I just want to get back to my team. Vermain posted:you're probably getting dinged by poison orb, as it has a fairly large radius and is what most moiras will throw out like 90% of the time if their team isn't in a bottleneck where they can bounce it like a racquet ball against a wall It was her beam as seen on the killcam, I wish I'd recorded it. I do see her balls flying around sometimes.
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Oct 20, 2022 22:22
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bagrada posted:It was her beam as seen on the killcam, I wish I'd recorded it. I do see her balls flying around sometimes. sometimes it's just server desync, too. i've had more than a few deaths as kiriko where i'll have pressed E, suzu goes on cooldown, i hear the sound and see the visual and get gibbed, and then i watch the deathcam and there's neither hide nor hair of it to be seen
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Oct 20, 2022 22:47
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I was playing an ultra paranoid playstyle as brig tbf, right behind my tank or right next to my support. Sombra can hack me all she likes but I could use teammates for cover and then just whipshot her away when my cooldowns are back.
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Oct 20, 2022 23:05
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I feel like I should be better with Brig but for some reason I absolutely suck at her. The positioning doesn't seem to be the same as Reinhardt, or maybe I just don't have the feel for when it's time to escape. If I focus on keeping myself alive I can generally do it but not while also helping teammates.
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Oct 20, 2022 23:28
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Bleck posted:Moira is a bullshit character. It’s true. I normally play Lucio or Zen for support, but I gave Moira a try, and became a monster. My friend who plays Mercy, and I carried so many pubbies to victory.
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Oct 20, 2022 23:33
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Rick posted:I feel like I should be better with Brig but for some reason I absolutely suck at her. The positioning doesn't seem to be the same as Reinhardt, or maybe I just don't have the feel for when it's time to escape. If I focus on keeping myself alive I can generally do it but not while also helping teammates. Are comp points only awarded via your end of season rankings now (or other comp challenges), or do you still earn 2 or 3 points per win as well like OW1? Also playing comp as tank has been so much more enjoyable than playing support. Usually if I outplay the opposing tank we win, while playing well on support doesn't seem to correlate with wins nearly as much.
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Oct 20, 2022 23:45
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yeah brig's ideal playstyle is actually pretty unintuitive from looking at her kit. at first glance you'd assume she was basically a secondary tank or like a melee damage/healer hybrid but really you play quite far back and rely on armor kits and mace whip (to proc Inspire) for the majority of your healing rather than M1 swings or shield bashes. you basically play as a bodyguard for your backline who holds M1 at flankers who get too close. in many cases you'll use shield bash as a mobility tool rather than a damage one.
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Oct 20, 2022 23:52
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You've got to carefully pick your battles as Brig. It's tempting to rush into the fray but you should be sitting back at midline really procing inspire with your whip and chasing away flankers. When the other team is retreating or in disarray though you can get in there and bash some heads. You just have to avoid that feeling that you need to make a big play when you should just be chilling and keeping inspire up.
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Rick posted:I feel like I should be better with Brig but for some reason I absolutely suck at her. The positioning doesn't seem to be the same as Reinhardt, or maybe I just don't have the feel for when it's time to escape. If I focus on keeping myself alive I can generally do it but not while also helping teammates. i cant do a drat thing with her and it makes me sad
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JUST be in wood tier one round of koth. gardens, constant brawling. love junker queen. they sohuld buff her healing so if you get 5 wounds shes basically unkillable or something? idk maybe that's too generic  i mean yeah just stay back and whip out of shield/medpack. that's still fun
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Oct 21, 2022 00:33
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Please get your skills out of Bronze 5, we're supposed to suck down here.
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Those numbers are cute.
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Open Marriage Night posted:It’s true. I normally play Lucio or Zen for support, but I gave Moira a try, and became a monster. My friend who plays Mercy, and I carried so many pubbies to victory. I main Lucio but when I really want to win and my damage characters are just blasting the enemy tank (often) I switch to Moira. She’s so good at punishing out of position backliners and then fading away around a corner or back to your line to heal everyone back up. Plus she shits out heals, I like shooting a heal orb plus heal spray for a 135/s heal burst. It’s transcendence-lite!
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Bleck posted:Moira is a bullshit character. yeah she's what i swap to if my team is having a hard time lol 
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"Alright, get this idea I had for a character. She's a support, right? Probably one of the best supports as far as healing goes, really reliable and powerful healing that's really easy to do. But then, we also make her do a lot of damage. Like, rivaling most DPS characters amount of damage. Also, in case she's ever in danger, she has a button that instantly makes her invisible and gives her a huge movement speed boost, so she can basically teleport around." "Sounds busted. What's the downside?" "The downside, is that she's really easy to play as."
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I'm a brig main and I could write a whole effort post on her but here are some quick tips: - Never let your shield break unless you'd die. The point of the shield is to let yourself regen health when you take damage. So its a constant trade of shield up, shield down (expecting to take damage when the shield is down). Inspire (her healing that applies over time when you do damage) takes time to heal, and your passive as a support also activates even if your shield is taking damage. Use these two things to make sure you are always in a state of taking damage or regenning, never full health and shield up! - If you are having trouble staying alive, hold your shield bash for escapes only. Yes it is a super strong tool in a fight and running down low health heroes, but it is always better to stay alive. It goes a crazy surprisingly far distance, this is another reason to never ever let your shield break, because you cannot use your dash escape unless your shield is operational. A quick 180 shield bash gets you out of harms way FAST. - Whip constantly. Learn the whip range and always be whipping. Bash and whip both activate inspire, this is how you heal your team and yourself when getting within melee range is too dangerous. - If you are again struggling, only use your ult defensively. Hear a genji ult or zarya ult? Just pop that bad boy. - You are actually really good at running down other supports. And in fact should be the person you probably are primarily focusing if not directly assisting your teammates. I could write a lot more, like too much more but these should help any struggling brig. Maybe these are duh obvious things and if they are, sorry!
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AndNowMax posted:Played as Brig the other day and kept getting dumpstered by Sombra. She’d hack me and then one-clip me before I could get my shield/cooldowns back. A couple games later I played as Sombra and just ruined the game for the enemy Brig; she couldn’t turn around fast enough to block the hack and her stocky hitbox was pretty easy to hit from just outside of flail range. Just turn your shield towards Sombra and whip shot. You shouldn't lose in the 1v1
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Oh hey https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1583066705487880192
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I placed silver 4 going 7-2. Feels about right but going to be a long grind.
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So how does Sigma's ult work? I tap the q, he yells about melody, and....nothing happens? I don't see any target to lock onto or any character to click to kill so what precisely do I do?
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Bleck posted:"Alright, get this idea I had for a character. She's a support, right? Probably one of the best supports as far as healing goes, really reliable and powerful healing that's really easy to do. But then, we also make her do a lot of damage. Like, rivaling most DPS characters amount of damage. Also, in case she's ever in danger, she has a button that instantly makes her invisible and gives her a huge movement speed boost, so she can basically teleport around." the downside is that you have gently caress all to deal with mass teamwipe ults besides heal orb + coalescence and have to directly put yourself in the line of fire to have enough consistent energy for LMB, something that will eventually get punished once you're up against good enough players she's strong in pubs mostly because she's consistent in output, but that also gives her a low ceiling that you'll eventually bonk your head against when old tricks like "just run into the support line with poison orb + RMB" stop working every time. this isn't to say she's not good, but that she still has clear downsides compared to going a different healer if your DPS are human Vermain fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Oct 21, 2022 |
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black.lion posted:the discord server no one asked for this owns. thanks
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Cowslips Warren posted:So how does Sigma's ult work? I tap the q, he yells about melody, and....nothing happens? I don't see any target to lock onto or any character to click to kill so what precisely do I do? Left click to launch them into the air, unless they are good and dodge. Any squishy you hit who's at half health will die, ignore them. Any higher health, you can hit once in the air with your left click before they fall. A split second before they land you can aim there for a second volley. Also during it you can rise up with space bar and hover lower with crouch!
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Bleck posted:"Alright, get this idea I had for a character. She's a support, right? Probably one of the best supports as far as healing goes, really reliable and powerful healing that's really easy to do. But then, we also make her do a lot of damage. Like, rivaling most DPS characters amount of damage. Also, in case she's ever in danger, she has a button that instantly makes her invisible and gives her a huge movement speed boost, so she can basically teleport around." She's so good she's not even top tier support.
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Bottom Liner posted:She's so good she's not even top tier support. Yeah id rather have nade or discord or lamp.
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moira is good if you're severely lacking in DPS for whatever reason, if you're being flanked by a genji/tracer/sombra and need to not die, or if you have something like zarya or orisa that you can combo with it's easy to get a passing impression of her being horseshit OP if you only play a few games as her or get killed by her W + RMB technique over and over, but her glaring weaknesses become more and more obvious the more time you spend with her and the more you end up thinking "sure would've been good if i had suzu/sound barrier/transcendence/nano boost there instead of the piss orb"
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Honestly Moira exists solely so that when your DPS haven't done any damage all game you can still win. Even if that doesn't work for grandmaster level play I am absolutely fine with them releasing entire characters whose only purpose is to make the experience of having two purely notional DPS on your team feel better at half an edible rank.
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Spanish Matlock posted:Honestly Moira exists solely so that when your DPS haven't done any damage all game you can still win. her numbers are honestly often deceptive, which is something i realized after reviewing more of my own footage and scoreboards. poison orb is incredibly good at inflating your damage stat if you just huck it down a corridor on rotation, and you can have a godly healing stat without realizing that half of it is from your RMB/ult personal healing and that your team is actually eating poo poo around you. you can end up with an impression of you doing way more for your team than you actually are there's lots of situations playing kiriko where it's very, very obvious when i've saved someone's rear end or nailed a kill and far fewer when i'm playing moira, unless i get the opportunity to freefire coalesence into the entire backline for some reason Vermain fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Oct 21, 2022 |
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the only stat that meaningfully matters to game impact is the hidden elo rating, and well generally [once the matchmaking shakes out] everyone in the same game has that same Number the scoreboard's main purpose afaict is ult tracking and for petulant manbabies to incorrectly berate their teammates it's extremely easy for people who don't know how the game works to decipher an extremely incorrect view of the game based on the stats like you said
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Vermain posted:once you're up against good enough players I freely admit that I am, in fact, awful at this game.
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