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What is YISUN?
Mother
A lie we tell ourselves to have a purpose
Bliss
A paradox with no solution
Father
A strong female protagonist
The weakest thing there is and the smallest crawling thing
Creator
Everything in this miserable and hellish existence
A solution with no paradoxes
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JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

studio mujahideen posted:

hes not zoss!! the universes are filled with guys like zoss! you can find them in almost every single shounen manga. thats the point

If your argument is that the universe is filled with Zoss-likes, then that makes it more likely not less likely that Zaid is a Zoss.

It just means there's nothing special about being Zoss (or helpful in regards to breaking the wheel), which I think is something that Zoss would also agree with.

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Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



the operating point here is to master the wheel is to be incompatible with breaking it

Mutant Headcrab
May 14, 2007
I mean, his eyes look like Zoss' in that last panel.

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

Cowcaster posted:

the operating point here is to master the wheel is to be incompatible with breaking it

this is it. the universe is filled with young men who could muster the power to master the wheel, if given the chance. all they'll do is perpetuate the cycle

isasphere
Mar 7, 2013
What does it mean to break the wheel, anyway? What would that even look like?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


why don't you have a look

ss....ss....sssss..........

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


isasphere posted:

What does it mean to break the wheel, anyway? What would that even look like?

Destroying reality as it exists now. What that will do to reality current inhabitants, who can say. If you aren't an antinatalist, the possibility of omnicide might make it less appealing.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Brought To You By posted:

What if instead Zoss chose someone named Diaz instead?

:psyduck: Woah lol

oobey
Nov 19, 2002

isasphere posted:

What does it mean to break the wheel, anyway? What would that even look like?

From what I understand, breaking the wheel means you set innocent people on fire with your dragon.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Breaking the wheel means when the man gives you an offer you can't refuse to push the history reset button for him, you say no anyway. And then the history reset button becomes the end boss.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Mr. Lobe posted:

Destroying reality as it exists now. What that will do to reality current inhabitants, who can say. If you aren't an antinatalist, the possibility of omnicide might make it less appealing.

Jagganoth's whole thing is destroying reality as it exists now, and as he made explicit that's very much the wheel

"The wheel" that people wanna break isn't the vaguely wheel-shaped universe everything worth caring about exists in, it's the endless stagnant cycle of violence, destruction, and rebirth Zoss has locked said universe into, in a futile effort to roll everything back to the Good Old Days and keep it there

Zoss and Metatron cannot fundamentally change the universe because all of their power is drawn from mastery of things as they are - Throne as universal capitol from which everything can be accessed and subjugated; the language of God bent to their will, weaponized and doled out to trusted subordinates; rule by the sword or some knowledge wielded as a sword. Theirs is the same power that demiurges inevitably take up to create their own hegemonies, and none of them are willing to undermine the basis of their own control. Plenty of heroes have succeeded in beating up the latest crop of villains, plenty of times Jagganoth has destroyed everything only for it to start all over again, none of them have succeeded in changing the status quo such that no new tyrant takes their place.

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Oct 22, 2022

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

isasphere posted:

What does it mean to break the wheel, anyway? What would that even look like?

good news about where this comic is going

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


isasphere posted:

What does it mean to break the wheel, anyway? What would that even look like?

Reboot the universe with a hard genre swerve from shōnen to shjōjo.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
Zaid needs to go full anime and be the Kamina for Allison's Simon.

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
break the wheel into a spiral

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Love that alt text:

"this entire comic is about how swords are super loving cool but actually not very cool guys sorry"

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Nostalgamus posted:

Love that alt text:

"this entire comic is about how swords are super loving cool but actually not very cool guys sorry"

The Kojima Dilemma.

SHAOLIN FUCKFIEND
Jan 21, 2008

Allison has learned The Expression from Jadis. That's really terrifying.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

SHAOLIN FUCKFIEND posted:

Allison has learned The Expression from Jadis. That's really terrifying.

Now all she needs is mutton chops and The Tie

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext
Kill six billion discos.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
What're the odds on Zaid Cutting The Machine, do you think?

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
ELECTROCHEMISTRY: You're drunk as hell. You have no idea what you're doing. And it's magnificent .

gonna need White Chain in a Kim Kitsuragi jacket ASAP

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Neddy Seagoon posted:

What're the odds on Zaid Cutting The Machine, do you think?

Pretty large but the damage is already done and lashing out lioe that wont fix it.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
Considering the wording of the failed heirs and the "he who masters the wheel" stuff, I wonder if the failed heir is the 'new' Zoss, moulded into being 'Zoss' by mastering the wheel much like seeing the wheel moulded Jadis and to a lesser degree Alison into what they are now.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
You. Girl. What do you think of death?

Composure: Failure
Oh God I'm gonna die!

Electrochemistry: success

Tell her you want a little death, as a treat.

Inland Empire: success

Not as inevitable as you'd think

Twenty Four
Dec 21, 2008


Amazing page

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Breaking the wheel means spinning the deal

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


my dad posted:

Considering the wording of the failed heirs and the "he who masters the wheel" stuff, I wonder if the failed heir is the 'new' Zoss, moulded into being 'Zoss' by mastering the wheel much like seeing the wheel moulded Jadis and to a lesser degree Alison into what they are now.

feeling a bit like a dialectical solution here

thesis -> master the wheel
antithesis -> what the gently caress. what the poo poo. this leads to nowhere. break the wheel
synthesis -> you know what let's loving make a bicycle

Staltran
Jan 3, 2013

Fallen Rib

Benagain posted:

You. Girl. What do you think of death?

Composure: Failure
Oh God I'm gonna die!

Electrochemistry: success

Tell her you want a little death, as a treat.

Inland Empire: success

Not as inevitable as you'd think

Should be half light instead of composure

Pyrus Malus
Nov 22, 2007
APPLES

RBA Starblade posted:

Breaking the wheel means spinning the deal

a lot of this hinges on whether or not one can wheel but also deal simultaneously

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

dead gay comedy forums posted:


synthesis -> you know what let's loving make a bicycle

Saturnine Aberrance
Sep 6, 2010

Creator.

Please make me flesh.



Holy poo poo

voting third party
Sep 5, 2006
~

lmao

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

:perfect:

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

:allears:

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Farg
Nov 19, 2013

god bless

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002



Magnificent.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

Ha!

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Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
ok, now make one where its about basket ball

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