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seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




The Question IRL posted:

From the pictures I saw the Celestial told Doom it would pass him if he just said "Reed Richards is smarter than me."

Doom just laughed and left. And the Celestial passed him anyway.

I mean, if it's judging them by their own ideals and how it lives up to them, that's Doom. He should pass if he tells it to gently caress off.

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DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company
I'm starting to wonder if the Progenitor is judging people based less on "how well do they live up to their own ideals" and more "how well have they accomplished the goals they set out for themselves" or something - it's that quote from the end of #4, where it's all "You'll always be better tomorrow" that makes me think that's a better angle to take to understand the criteria. Characters like Cap, no matter how much they accomplish, are aspirational, they want to inspire people to be better. Doom, on the other hand, doesn't need to inspire poo poo; he's already a goddamn King, after all.

So I'm coming around to the idea that the real criteria is some variant on "Are you awesome now, or could you be awesome later? 'Cause later is too late."

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
Hm, that's an interesting view of it. Does that mean Shaw failed not because he accepts he is evil even secretly knowing he could change if he tried, but because he will never be as rich as he wants to be or something?

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Gologle posted:

Hm, that's an interesting view of it. Does that mean Shaw failed not because he accepts he is evil even secretly knowing he could change if he tried, but because he will never be as rich as he wants to be or something?

Shaw, I think, falls under the self-loathing codicil

If you hear "You're gonna be judged, you can't avoid it" and you know, in your heart of hearts, that your failure is inevitable, the Progenitor goes "welp, you'd know, I guess" and fails you

I mean Thor passed the judgment because the Progenitor saw the inscription on his hammer and went "well that guy must be worthy or he couldn't lift the thing, right?" so let's not close off the possibility that the one-day-old jury-rigged spacegod who calls Tony Stark 'Dad' isn't exactly using the deepest and most thoughtful criteria

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
Didn’t it accept Cyclops’s argument that the only person who could judge him was his wife? I don’t think that particular argument holds up

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

thetoughestbean posted:

Didn’t it accept Cyclops’s argument that the only person who could judge him was his wife? I don’t think that particular argument holds up

I think a Celestial built largely by Tony Stark and Mister Sinister might in fact be a little bit weak to the "I don't give a poo poo what you think of me, I'm awesome and all the people I actually care about also say I'm awesome" argument

poo poo, that's like 1/3rd of all Tony Stark stories right there, of course it works of Cyclops uses the same argument

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

I think a Celestial built largely by Tony Stark and Mister Sinister might in fact be a little bit weak to the "I don't give a poo poo what you think of me, I'm awesome and all the people I actually care about also say I'm awesome" argument

poo poo, that's like 1/3rd of all Tony Stark stories right there, of course it works of Cyclops uses the same argument

You make a good point

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Grendels Dad posted:

Everybody keeps saying that Thor isn't the god of hammers. I want him to meet the actual god of hammers and get wrecked.

Pretty sure that dude's a boss in FFXIV's latest 24-man raid.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
The secret to his swole is that every time you gently caress up a crafting rotation, he does one push-up.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!

Chinston Wurchill posted:



Daniel Warren Johnson is just so good. From Do A Powerbomb #3.

Oops this was supposed to be in the art thread. Ah well, belongs here too.

Bringing this back just to say Do A Powerbomb is a great series for anyone who cares about badass panels. I do not know/care about wrestling at all, but this comic is definitely my thing.

E: Explaining this page gives a great feel for the comic. Lona, the lady with the Mohawk, is wrestling and beating an orangutan from another planet. The announcer with the spike hair is Necroton, a necromancer. Great comic, very fun

StumblyWumbly fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Sep 25, 2022

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

A couple powerful pages by Erik Larsen. (Savage Dragon #115 and Spider-Man: Going Big)





Saying "Never the End" is just badass.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler

Heavy Metal posted:




Saying "Never the End" is just badass.

I hope is going to the hospital because it looks like his hip is fractured.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

MasterBuilder posted:

I hope is going to the hospital because it looks like his hip is fractured.

He’s just doing one of them Spider-poses

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

MasterBuilder posted:

I hope is going to the hospital because it looks like his hip is fractured.

He has the proportional flexibility of a spider.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

MasterBuilder posted:

I hope is going to the hospital because it looks like his hip is fractured.

Inked a leg as an arm and tried to style it out.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Bruceski posted:

Inked a leg as an arm and tried to style it out.

This is a badass page made by one of the masters. I have smoke shooting out of my ears at this display of poppycockery you have posted.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler

thetoughestbean posted:

He’s just doing one of them Spider-poses

Is that a variation of the boobs and butt pose?

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Is your idea of badass art that guy on the Tom King Batman run, or Lazarus? 3D poser model referenced lifeless malarkey? That's what we're gonna get if you maniacs keep it up.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I look forward to seeing which company decides to see if they can generate AI comic book pages first.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

ImpAtom posted:

I look forward to seeing which company decides to see if they can generate AI comic book pages first.

Considering how AI art is basically just procedurally generated plagiarism, it's retroactively whichever company hired Greg Land first.

Joe Fisto
Dec 6, 2002

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

Cabbit posted:

Considering how AI art is basically just procedurally generated plagiarism, it's retroactively whichever company hired Greg Land first.

GOT EM

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
There's potential for an AI generated issue of Doom Patrol or maybe an unhinged Judge Dredd.

Actually, isn't there a Dredd where he gets sucked into a surrealist painting?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Cabbit posted:

Considering how AI art is basically just procedurally generated plagiarism, it's retroactively whichever company hired Greg Land first.

Greg Land confirmed first AI cyborg?

usenet celeb 1992
Jun 1, 2000

he thought quoting borges would make him popular
I mean, if there's anyone whose inner monologue is just like "Catwoman sexy pose realistic artstyle big boobs trending on artstation" it would be Land.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Elissimpark posted:

There's potential for an AI generated issue of Doom Patrol or maybe an unhinged Judge Dredd.

Actually, isn't there a Dredd where he gets sucked into a surrealist painting?

Hey now, paintings (like the one that ate Paris) are the Doom Patrol's territory.

That said, an AI generated DP would probably be indistinguishable from a Grant Morrison-written issue, that one issue where he lampooned the Mighty Marvel writing style sure came close.

It's also fun to look at Greg Land art and guess which porn actress he traced for a particular panel..

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Binary Badger posted:

That said, an AI generated DPwould probably be indistinguishable from a Grant Morrison-written issue, that one issue where he lampooned the Mighty Marvel writing style sure came close.

Most programs automatically filter out those kinds of requests.

Kantesu
Apr 21, 2010

Binary Badger posted:

Hey now, paintings (like the one that ate Paris) are the Doom Patrol's territory.

That said, an AI generated DP would probably be indistinguishable from a Grant Morrison-written issue, that one issue where he lampooned the Mighty Marvel writing style sure came close.

It's also fun to look at Greg Land art and guess which porn actress he traced for a particular panel..

Friendly reminder that Grant Morrison uses they/them pronouns these days

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
"Oh? You're approaching me?"

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Gologle posted:

"Oh? You're approaching me?"



Something about that middle panel reads as backing up to me, not approaching.

Just curious noticing how I parse a still frame. Not sure what it is that does that for me. The right legs being in the back? That's the leg I lead with.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Bruceski posted:

Something about that middle panel reads as backing up to me, not approaching.

Just curious noticing how I parse a still frame. Not sure what it is that does that for me. The right legs being in the back? That's the leg I lead with.

Google the meme, bud.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Toshimo posted:

Google the meme, bud.

See, that clearly reads as forward motion. That's why I'm curious why this one feels like they're both retreating.

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
The fight in that issue felt to me like the art was kind of under-delivering

Not that it was Capital B bad or anything, but in the hands of an artist with a real mastery of dynamism and choreography, it mighta been beautiful

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Bruceski posted:

See, that clearly reads as forward motion. That's why I'm curious why this one feels like they're both retreating.

Probably the angle of the body on the page.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
Wintersoldier leans back, colors the whole scene differently

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
On the next page you see Cap falling like he's doing Guile's weirdo kick because he slipped on his shield like it is a banana peel.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Goa Tse-tung posted:

Wintersoldier leans back, colors the whole scene differently

That and because the angle between the two of them is wider than what it is in Jojo (I feel). In the former, because of this angle, and the distance, it almost makes it look like Bucky is trying to circle to Cap's right. In the latter, Jotaro looks like he's advancing in a slouched manner.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.
To my eye, Steve's look reads "tired of this bullshit", where Bucky's eyes seem to show hesitation or even a little fear. Then in the next panel, he's leaning back, like he's weighing his options.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
Do A Powerbomb rules. From #6.

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Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.

Steve's butt is completely obscured in shadow

America's rear end deserves better treatment than this

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