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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, there's a coherent realist argument to be made here which hinges on two judgement calls: is the war likely to turn in Ukraine's favour if negotiations are refused and the fighting is allowed to play out and if so, would that improved bargaining position be worth the additional death and destruction incurred along the way. If you judge that the answers to those two questions are "yes" and "yes", then continuing the war without exploring possibilities of ceasefires, de-escalation etc is a grim prospect but a defensible stance. (In my personal opinion, the answers to the questions are: "more likely not" and "no", which is why I'd prefer to see an immediate ceasefire followed by negotiations.) There's a third judgement call here, which is, "is a ceasefire possible to begin with?" And the answer seems to be "no", because Putin has a history of agreeing to mutual cessation of hostilities then his guys going around being very hostile anyway, so there's no reason not to expect a 'ceasefire while negotiations are ongoing' to look more like 'the Ukrainians stop shooting while the Russians take ten minutes to rearm then immediately resume'. E: Cat tax 
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bessantj posted:Get a pair of wool fishing socks from ebay. They will keep your feet toasty all winter long. Isn't it traditional for your moms and grandmothers to knit those for their children / grandchildren in the UK?
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Nov 4, 2022 12:18
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Yes, also we live in hobbit holes and eat crumpets for every meal
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Nov 4, 2022 12:22
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His Divine Shadow posted:Isn't it traditional for your moms and grandmothers to knit those for their children / grandchildren in the UK? I'm grandma age and I can't think of a single one of my similarly aged friends who knits let alone younger ones! Even my 85 year old mother doesn't knit.
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Nov 4, 2022 12:23
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Yes, also we live in hobbit holes and eat crumpets for every meal That's literally aspirational living for a lot of Britain heading into this winter
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Nov 4, 2022 12:24
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the traditional grandma-based model has been replaced by professional grandmas-for-rent
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Nov 4, 2022 12:26
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Thanks for that, although welp, cold feet for me all winter then! Good news is that it shouldn't be quite as bad for you since it's your downstairs neighbors moving out and you're already paying for the loss through the roof, bad news is that it might still be pretty expensive. Actually, if it's lovely enough, perhaps your downstairs neighbors have been heating your apartment much more directly through the movement of warm air, in which case you might get a real shock. namesake posted:Why is it 1938 and not 1914 though? Spiralling works both ways.
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Nov 4, 2022 12:27
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Sucks for you guys. I got a drawer of woolen socks for winter time from my mom. My kids too get them too, as well as sweaters.
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Nov 4, 2022 12:31
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namesake posted:Why is it 1938 and not 1914 though? Spiralling works both ways. This is more like sending MiGs to Angola to annoy their racist neighbours, only this time around Russia has decided to play as the racist neighbours instead of the MiGs.
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Nov 4, 2022 12:33
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Re: power blackouts - it's worth signing up for the Priority Services Register https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/get-help-your-supplier-priority-services-register if you are old, sick, have young children or some other reason where power cuts would affect you more than normal. I don't really know if this does anything but at least your power supplies will be aware of your situation.
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Nov 4, 2022 12:34
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Danger - Octopus! posted:How much does the heat (or lack of) in flats in a block affect the other flats? I went without heating for 3 months in the winter in my ground floor flat (thnx housing association!), it has no sort of insulation as it's all just a solid brick wall to the outside by the looks of it. The flats above me all have some sort of outer (safe) cladding on them. Was cold but tolerable with enough blankets and layers, thermostat said it was about 13c inside. Only real issue was trying to dry clothes in time for work the next day.
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Nov 4, 2022 12:41
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Higher up you go the warmer you are at the expense of lower down flats. Heh, my roof certainly does leak but it's never been fixed properly because for serious roof repairs they'd need to involve the other owners of flats in the building so my landlord has obviously never done that. I'm pretty sure the reason I've been able to stay here with only moderate rather than ridiculous rent increases for years is because the structure of the building is getting pretty obviously bad to the point where a new tenant might actually object. Also thanks for the advice all, been buying up thicker socks etc anyhow. Really regretting the nice tempered glass desk I've got that I use for WFH cause it's cold as hell resting your feet against it 
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Nov 4, 2022 12:44
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His Divine Shadow posted:Sucks for you guys. I got a drawer of woolen socks for winter time from my mom. My kids too get them too, as well as sweaters. Thought your kids were wearing your wooly socks as tiny jumpers for a second there, seemed very Dickensian. TheDeadlyShoe posted:the traditional grandma-based model has been replaced by professional grandmas-for-rent A Wayne Rooney monopsony market
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Nov 4, 2022 12:45
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I'm grandma age and I can't think of a single one of my similarly aged friends who knits let alone younger ones! I am very slightly younger and have knitted socks, but stopped because it is absolutely not worth it. Maybe it would be different if I could wear wool, but with cotton/bamboo/etc yarn, you can buy much cheaper, warmer, and more durable socks. The only things I knit now are cotton dishcloths. They are extremely good dishcloths, but I only do it to have something to do with my hands while watching videos.
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Oh dear me posted:They are extremely good dishcloths, but I only do it to have something to do with my hands while watching videos. I've never had that problem
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Nov 4, 2022 12:49
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Pistol_Pete posted:For over 40 years he's consistently held the position that war is bad, and peace is better, and you get peace by persuading the people who are fighting to talk to each other instead and he's spent much of that time being called a horrible traitor for maintaining it. It's very unlikely indeed that he's going to make an exception at this point and say: "Actually, THIS war is cool and good and I think we should have more of it." My thoughts on Corbyn can be summed up by this quote: "so heavenly minded as to be of no earthly use". 
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Oh dear me posted:I am very slightly younger and have knitted socks, but stopped because it is absolutely not worth it. Maybe it would be different if I could wear wool, but with cotton/bamboo/etc yarn, you can buy much cheaper, warmer, and more durable socks.
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Oh dear me posted:I am very slightly younger and have knitted socks, but stopped because it is absolutely not worth it. Maybe it would be different if I could wear wool, but with cotton/bamboo/etc yarn, you can buy much cheaper, warmer, and more durable socks. OMG you've brought back a long-buried memory from junior school where all the girls had to learn to knit string dishcloths! Some sort of 'double stitch' - a very loose knit.
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Just Another Lurker posted:My thoughts on Corbyn can be summed up by this quote: "so heavenly minded as to be of no earthly use". I've heard it as "progress is defined by men with their heads in the clouds but accomplished by men with their feet on the ground". It takes a dreamer to imagine a better world and a realist to build it.
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Jedit posted:I've heard it as "progress is defined by men with their heads in the clouds but accomplished by men with their feet on the ground". It takes a dreamer to imagine a better world and a realist to build it.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:This is why tall people are the ideal leaders, being able to do both. We got rishi instead 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You can wear multiple layers of socks. Yeah I always put the wool socks over my regular thin socks... Layering is key to everything, even socks. Also when I try out winter shoes, I try them with the wool socks on to get the right fit.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:This is why tall people are the ideal leaders, being able to do both. Richard Burgon will be the saviour of the Labour movement
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Jedit posted:I've heard it as "progress is defined by men with their heads in the clouds but accomplished by men with their feet on the ground". It takes a dreamer to imagine a better world and a realist to build it. Corbyn's approach, at least at the start, seemed very much to be to delegate properly and not try to shoulder the entire shadow cabinet's jobs himself. I think, if he was in power and had the collective knowledge and experience of the civil service at his fingertips plus the advice of a well-led Foreign Office, he'd have made the right decision about Ukraine. The naive response we're seeing from him now is coming from a backbencher who's been cut off from even his own party.
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Dabir posted:Corbyn's approach, at least at the start, seemed very much to be to delegate properly and not try to shoulder the entire shadow cabinet's jobs himself. He shouldn't have had such a poo poo cabinet at the start then lol. Oh you added more - I doubt that. He might be trying more high level diplomacy but wouldn't be saying to big up the arms trade and increase risk of nuclear exchange. Quite rightly he's seen the UK do that time after time and it not work out so he's not going to buckle because some MI6 agents are saying how bad the Russians are. namesake fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Nov 4, 2022 |
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Nov 4, 2022 13:39
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You can wear multiple layers of socks. Think we all know that, but if you mean I should knit woollen oversocks, unfortunately wool irritates my hands just as much as the rest of me.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:42
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I believe part of the Brexit agreement is that neither side can mess around with the electricity interconnectors for any reason. Gonna be interesting politics if both France and the UK face blackouts. https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1588507269507198976?s=20&t=RNApHeIQ9XgJKu8HczrPvw
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Dabir posted:Corbyn's approach, at least at the start, seemed very much to be to delegate properly and not try to shoulder the entire shadow cabinet's jobs himself. I think, if he was in power and had the collective knowledge and experience of the civil service at his fingertips plus the advice of a well-led Foreign Office, he'd have made the right decision about Ukraine. The naive response we're seeing from him now is coming from a backbencher who's been cut off from even his own party. No, he absolutely wouldn't. Like, that's absolutely fundamental to the man.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Isn't it traditional for your moms and grandmothers to knit those for their children / grandchildren in the UK? With Brexit we are in a post tradition society.
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Barry Foster posted:No, he absolutely wouldn't. Like, that's absolutely fundamental to the man.
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Barry Foster posted:No, he absolutely wouldn't. Like, that's absolutely fundamental to the man. I think he'd have been a 7 out of 10 on going to war.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:He was constantly bullied into loving things up when he ran Labour though. True, but none of those things were "being pro-war", which as far as I've ever seen is an Actual Red Line for him. He was self-admittedly 7/10 on the EU, so it's not surprising they eventually managed to jimmy him into the position of agreeing to a second referendum. He'd no more support war in Ukraine than he'd admit to being willing to press the Big Red Button.
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WhatEvil posted:I know this isn't UKPol but probably interesting to UKMTers anyway: I just want to point out as someone active in a (different) union in Toronto this is absolutely loving massive. The Ford government's treatment of education workers is entirely typical of many governments decades-long successful attempts to stymie public sector pay, and moreso the abuse of the Notwithstanding Clause to remove the right to reject an unfair deal just shows how callous and uncaring these wankshafts are. When you consider that anything below inflation is a paycut, and that pay increases have not matched inflation since (insert decade here), it's not wonder you see people turning to trade unions and people like Mick Lynch again.
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Barry Foster posted:No, he absolutely wouldn't. Like, that's absolutely fundamental to the man. If Brexit was precedent, we probably would have ended up with a compromise policy where we supplied arms to Ukraine and training to Russia,, subject to there being negotiations about the terms of a vote over Russia adding a ‘The’ in front of their name.
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https://twitter.com/garethicke/status/1588258973110738945
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Yickes!
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i think he doesn't get his second attack per round until level 5, although he's now out of the range at which he could be reasonably downed from full health by a single lucky crit
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EU Taking Back Control and Protecting Its Borders. Problem?
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They're talking about knitting on radio right now. Apparently they teach knitting as part of the school curriculum in Finland. I can't say I remember that from my time in school but it was far back enough it was probably aimed at girls only. My boys are learning to sew things atm, though I remember doing that too.
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