|
Escape From Noise posted:If nothing else I don't think I'm going to get in trouble for it really. I'm sure people aren't going to be thrilled but I doubt I'll be punished. I guess we'll see. One time I got a bad passdown and ran a 12 panel work order for G-band RF transmitters on the program for A-band on the second side. I didn't get in trouble because they could switch the order from G to A and then just generate a new G order, but, uh... 4 parts had to be removed and 2 added from one side, 3 removed and 4 added on the other, 20 boards per panel, 12 panels. The techs were loving pissed at me, and rightly so. edit:  That's the scale of the parts that had to be added and removed. First side is wide open, the second side of those boards is two of those shields. Having to deal with that on a large scale to not just throw away a whole work order is infuriating, glad they didn't get too mad at me (except for the people who had to do it because it's their job lol) MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Nov 4, 2022 |
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 14:42
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 10:44 |
|
|
Why the poo poo does that vacuum pump let you accidentally put liquid in the wrong bit of it?
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 14:45
|
|
|
Same reason CNC machines let you crash the spindle into the table
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 14:51
|
|
|
Salami Surgeon posted:Same reason CNC machines let you crash the spindle into the table lol if only there was an :industry: smilie
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 14:53
|
|
|
goatface posted:Why the poo poo does that vacuum pump let you accidentally put liquid in the wrong bit of it? It's definitely not the best setup. I was supposed to detach certain hoses during the CIP. I did, but thought I was supposed to have it run attached for a bit
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 15:07
|
|
|
 but with the jaggy roof generic industry building icon
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 15:08
|
|
|
I'm in a huge pissing match with an entire group of engineers at work. This one sub-assembly always comes to me with defective threaded holes, they're too small and the bolts won't thread in properly. It's part of a very difficult install, and when we caught it by trying to put it together we burned over 100 man hours, me, my techs, and a pretty senior engineer, taking all the poo poo back apart, repairing it and remounting it. This pissed me off, so I've been having the engineers add a step to check it out well before it needs to go on, it's always defective, but it's about a 6 hour job to pull inserts, re-tap all the threads and reinstall inserts, if you do it before installation. "Elviscat says we need to check it" has coincidentally worked so far, but isn't exactly a formal, codified process, so I've been bugging the engineers in charge of the manufacturing process for the sub-component to add a step in to verify the threads just prior to sending it over to us, and they're just hilariously resistant to taking ten minutes to add a step. They keep going "we check those threads at an earlier step!" Like that might be true, but they're hosed up when they get to me, I don't know if your dudes don't know how to use a thread gage and think that threading in half a turn and siezing up means it's good or what, I just want that poo poo to be correct when I get it. Quality is up their rear end about it, so they'll be forced to do it eventually, one engineer asked if I removed the threaded insert before thread gaging and tapping, and that was a hard one to respond to in a professional manner.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 15:08
|
|
|
Are the parts a high nickel alloy?
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 15:47
|
|
|
Uh, yes.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 16:49
|
|
|
Have you tried self-sealing stem bolts?
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 16:50
|
|
|
Don't know what those are, but sounds like I could turn a tidy profit with a load of them.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 16:57
|
|
|
Tarkus posted:Are the parts a high nickel alloy? Or is the supplier using a hosed up thread mill instead of a tap? I had to scrap a Case for a jet engine compressor at my last job because a toolsetter hosed up the threadmill and 2 of 50 threaded holes were oversized. We didn't have room for a twinsert and the oversizing was too extend to use an oversized helicoil. 50k in the shitter.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 17:36
|
|
|
Elviscat posted:Uh, yes. They may need to get oversize (but still in size) taps or tap drill to max of standard. Or they could be using the wrong cutting geometry for the taps. High Nickel alloys like Inconel like to shrink around a tap because the tap is only pushing the material away from it, not cutting it completely. Emuge makes excellent taps for exactly that purpose and are worth the extra price.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 18:04
|
|
|
Chit chat with a coworker Him: "Did you get your flu shot the other day when they were here?" Me: "No I had already gotten one at Walgreens" "I didn't get one. I never get one. My wife gets one every year, and guess what she gets every year: the flu. I think the shot just gives you the flu." Last month's mandatory training course was about immuizations.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 18:04
|
|
|
I ended up asking my COO to extend my WFH through the end of the year and he agreed, so at least thats bought me some more time to get an exit plan. Got an email today also about the CEO who was ousted, the President is now also the CEO. Not a word about the CIO or the compliance guy, lol
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 20:42
|
|
|
Tarkus posted:They may need to get oversize (but still in size) taps or tap drill to max of standard. Or they could be using the wrong cutting geometry for the taps. High Nickel alloys like Inconel like to shrink around a tap because the tap is only pushing the material away from it, not cutting it completely. Emuge makes excellent taps for exactly that purpose and are worth the extra price. I do wonder over what timeframe the holes shrink back up, or if some later part of the process does enough thermally or mechanically to stress relieve the threads and cause them to grow slightly. Or they do the hole pattern, then hog the poo poo out of something nearby and the holes go slightly oval due to cutting forces.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 21:24
|
|
|
Salami Surgeon posted:Chit chat with a coworker Heh. In college I was in a full 15 passenger van with the ecology/evolution professor driving us to a swamp to count critters. On the way he asked us if we had gotten our flu shots and to rile him up I said 'no man, I'm not trying to catch autism' and I could see his knuckles whitening and his forehead vein pulse as he prepared to respond to that lol
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 21:33
|
|
|
Your jobs sounds way more hands on and important than any poo poo i do. Zoom, Word, and emails baby!
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 21:38
|
|
|
Shithouse Dave posted:My joint filled our millionth can yesterday! You haven't lived until you've seen a spent grain silo fail and have to have a dozen brewers shovel it up during a Chicago February.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 21:38
|
|
|
Also grats on the millionth can 
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 21:42
|
|
|
Shithouse Dave posted:My joint filled our millionth can yesterday! drat! Missed this post! Gratz!
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 21:45
|
|
|
Methylethylaldehyde posted:I do wonder over what timeframe the holes shrink back up, or if some later part of the process does enough thermally or mechanically to stress relieve the threads and cause them to grow slightly. Or they do the hole pattern, then hog the poo poo out of something nearby and the holes go slightly oval due to cutting forces. Here's a question (not directed to you but the OP). Are the screws you're trying to insert also a high-nickel alloy or stainless in general? if so, do they put anti-seize spray/goop in them? The screws could be galling up right when you insert them. Because the materials don't oxidize much, even a bit of friction between them can cause them to weld together slightly. The act of re-tapping them could introduce a layer of gunk from tapping compound. In order for the holes to actually shrink or go oval sufficiently they'd have to be in a tube or something very thin. Inconel can move a fair amount but not that much. Also, another reason I think that it could be the screws is the fact that you say they check them. Thread gages are made with hardened tool steel and thus won't usually stick to stainless especially directly after manufacture when there is still oils in the threads.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 21:46
|
|
|
Engineering should probably be on that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 22:04
|
|
|
Monday I got invited to a Kickoff meeting for a new project involving the top 25 lagging suppliers in our business unit because one of mine was identified as such. The actual parameters of what constituted a top 25 miss changed three times during the meeting to the point where mine fell off the list. Then after the call it was back on. We had to have a presentation ready for the next day based on a template. We weren't told where we were supposed to source half the information and then about five minutes in someone pointed out it was the old version of the slide and we had to redo everything. Then Wednesday we were tasked with completing a five page presentation instead of the one page presentation, but not told where to load it and again, no idea where the data was supposed to come from. Also the executive that oversees my team has repeatedly stated no one should spend time on this until he has a chance to figure out what's happening but also the executive who started the initiative has said we have to put our presentations together. All this in the name of improving supply chain efficiency.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 22:21
|
|
|
Salami Surgeon posted:We're trying to test some janky piece of poo poo component that really isn't the right technology for this application. OK, whatever, not my call. I get the component ready for test, meticulously set it up correctly, reinforce it so that it won't break under test and will survive shipping and installation at the customer for their testing. Boss says the data we collected is good, but he's concerned that the component's internal temperature compensation for it's electronics may cause the customer to see erratic readings.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 22:24
|
|
|
Should be okay as long as they aren't seeing erotic readings.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 22:45
|
|
|
Tarkus posted:Here's a question (not directed to you but the OP). Are the screws you're trying to insert also a high-nickel alloy or stainless in general? if so, do they put anti-seize spray/goop in them? The screws could be galling up right when you insert them. Because the materials don't oxidize much, even a bit of friction between them can cause them to weld together slightly. The act of re-tapping them could introduce a layer of gunk from tapping compound. In order for the holes to actually shrink or go oval sufficiently they'd have to be in a tube or something very thin. Inconel can move a fair amount but not that much. So, when you first replied I was really worried that you were someone on the e-mail chain. If it was galling, I would know. The holes and fasteners are high strength nickel alloy, the threaded inserts are CRES, exactly for the galling reason. Thread lubrication is applied to all fasteners. The threads, I believe, are single-point formed, not tapped. When I run a tap through them I only cut the first ~1/3 of the thread, then the tap runs pretty much free, so I think maybe their program's hosed up and tapping a somewhat conical hole. There are thousands of nearly identical interfaces on our product, inco into CRES into inco, the others give us problems pretty frequently, for various reasons, but these ones give me problems 100% of the time. The threads are checked a hood while after machining, I checked and there's no further heat cycling or anything that would effect the base material. My suspicion, tbh, is our inspectors are being lazy and not threading the go/no-go thread gage in past the first tapered thread, since they have to inspect hundreds of holes a day, and threading it in and out all the way properly is tedious. I've run into a ton more (isolated) cases of bolt won't thread->pull insert->gage parent threads, too small->tap and replace and everything works beautifully. It's hard to isolate the problem, since the threaded inserts we use are trash, the tools to install them are cheap and break constantly, and the technicians like to gently caress them up by coming up with cool new ideas like trying to break the tang off with pliers instead of a punch because they don't tell me when those lovely punches break. If Inco actually shrinks several days after machining (and thus after post-machining inspections) I'll have to find some way to repay you for the millions of dollars you just saved my company, but I have the feeling you mean that it springs back immediately post-machining. If you want to know any more specifics I'd genuinely love to talk about it over PMs, but I'm at my personal limit for technical detail shared publicly. E: not that machining nickel based alloys is some crazy proprietary technology, just I-m linking myself to a work email chain that's spiraling up the company. Elviscat fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 4, 2022 |
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 23:14
|
|
|
Elviscat posted:So, when you first replied I was really worried that you were someone on the e-mail chain. My ongoing nightmare whenever I post ITT
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 23:24
|
|
|
There are benefits to being the only person under 50 in an organization.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 23:35
|
|
|
RocketMermaid posted:You haven't lived until you've seen a spent grain silo fail and have to have a dozen brewers shovel it up during a Chicago February. What about watching an Amazon truck drive the trailer away from the dock, fully loaded, with the back door still open? During Holiday Peak? In the rain?
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2022 23:45
|
|
|
Alkydere posted:What about watching an Amazon truck drive the trailer away from the dock, fully loaded, with the back door still open? The Aristocrats!
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 00:05
|
|
|
Probably the worst snafu I've ever had to clean up was when I was brewing in Denmark (this is a common refrain in my brewery horror stories, I know), when the guy I was taking over for was forklifting a pallet of bottles into the bottling area... and clipped the bottom corner against the garage door just enough to rip a hole in the plastic big enough for every single bottle to fall out of. We spent probably a full minute just watching this thing collapse and spew bottle after bottle after bottle on the concrete floor before it stopped and we went, "welp, guess we better get a shovel and a trash bin".
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 00:09
|
|
|
Been there, seen that kind of mess. Even as a non-drinker it's sad to watch. Was perhaps even sadder when I saw it because it was in a Walmart that was rushing to get their new beer display together. They were going to be the first retailer in a college town (Lubbock) to sell alcohol after the college students voted to get rid of the dry county laws. Only for the Walmart workers to over-load the shelving unit and have half of their planned display come crashing down in a shower of beer and glass.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 00:36
|
|
|
My former boss is being paid somewhere around 800,000 usd a year to move back to his home country and attend one meeting a month to confirm they don't need him to do anything until 2024 at the earliest.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 01:00
|
|
|
We're moving from our lovely old office building to a shiny new one. The official move date for everyone is the 14th, and we've been told to make sure our cubicles are cleaned out and all personal stuff gone by next Thursday since Friday is a holiday. Cool, great, good, because other than a nice view from the 9th floor where I sit, the building is an absolute dumpster. The water comes out of the faucets brownish and sometimes with chunks in it, and in the 17 years I've worked there they have never once cleaned the air ducts that I know of. Also there is no hot water in the bathrooms, except somehow they managed to pipe hot water into one of the toilets on the top floor  Anyway, last week my manager asks if any of us would be willing to go to the new building early (next week) to make sure the network is functioning. I say sure why not. Yesterday I get told "uh, hey, I know tomorrow is WFH day for you, but can you go into the new office tomorrow? Come into the old one, pack up all your stuff and take it over." Eh, ok, whatevs. Everyone else gets their stuff moved for them but other than the very large monitor I have nothing is particularly unwieldy so I'm not super put out. Get some critical work done this morning from the old office, then spend about 45 minutes completely cleaning out my cubicle including all the cables and UPS, plus my personal coffee pot and loading up my car via a cart. Get to the new building. The one we're currently in has a multistory parking garage attached to the building, the new place just has a very large parking lot. So loading the car was easy, but unloading it would not be. Also the parking lot accesses the building via a set of stairs unless you park in the handicapped spaces. There's a loading dock, but it's elevated for a semi truck and not a personal vehicle. There's a side drive leading to the loading dock and an employee entrance there, but also accessed by stairs. I take my laptop bag up with me and dump that in my new cubicle on the 4th floor. Then go move my car from the lot to the side entrance, go back upstairs and get the tiny lovely cart they sent over and take it down the elevator to where the car is parked and start loading it. This side entrance doesn't have the powered doors the main entrance does so I have to juggle a 32" curved monitor as I get the door open. Plus it's too big for the cart to place on its side so I have to stand it up and worry about keeping it from falling off while pushing the cart. After I get the rest of the poo poo on the cart, take it back upstairs to my cubicle, then go downstairs again to move my car back to the main lot. Once all that's done then I have to plug in the UPS, all the cords and cables and finally get everything hooked up. What I thought would take about 20 minutes has now taken an hour. Finally, I get logged on and I can't access our software application that it's my job to work in and troubleshoot for the agency. I can get in the production version, but not the testing region and we have a major testing thing going on Monday so I'm supposed to be setting up files in there. So I IM my boss "Hey I can't get into the system." Get told to put in a ticket. I call the help desk, the guy remotes in tries a few things and then says "ok, well let me get you over to [system] support" I tell the dude I am When I get back the only other person in the office tells me they know the network is broken and a ticket was put in several days ago, and I can probably access the testing region through our VPN. But I can't. I get back into our group chat, and my manager says "so since you can't get in and this is a known issue they should have told me about before I asked you to go over there, just go home and finish out the day there and then don't come in next week at all unless we get confirmation that it's fixed." Some consolation I guess, but congrats to the IT team that said "sure, go ahead and send someone over" when it was known the network was hosed up. I guess we're hooked up to the wrong VLAN so we don't have the security clearance to access our testing region. It's extra hilarious because I can access production with no issue, that has real people's sensitive info but not the version where everything is made up. Woo!
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 01:09
|
|
|
Thesaurus posted:Your jobs sounds way more hands on and important than any poo poo i do. Zoom, Word, and emails baby! I can't do the computer toucher/WFH poo poo, not my bag. I like playing with robots and hot irons and filling machines and chemo drugs and industrial ovens and poo poo. Soon enough if things work out I'll be sorta computer touching, but those computers will be PLCs and I'll be doping and growing silicon crystals.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 01:53
|
|
|
I have two brew this month and maybe two kegging days depending on how the dark strong goes.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 03:33
|
|
|
Barudak posted:My former boss is being paid somewhere around 800,000 usd a year to move back to his home country and attend one meeting a month to confirm they don't need him to do anything until 2024 at the earliest. I want to come work for the company that makes billions of dollars and forces their employees to not work
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 07:08
|
|
|
Dumb poo poo your work does: hole too tight, tap deeper for proper screw
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 07:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 10:44 |
|
|
Freaquency posted:I want to come work for the company that makes billions of dollars and forces their employees to not work Im getting pressure because I haven't taken enough vacation yet to hit targets and HR is begging me to just call in sick a few more times if I don't want to plan a trip. This isn't a bank thing where it needs to be two weeks contiguous, either. Edit: I'm in process of closing my last open role, sorry.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2022 07:12
|
|