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atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's basically probation instead of prison and prison labor. Being forced to do a DUI class or community service is not really the same thing as going to prison and being required to do prison labor.

you are beyond the reach of god's grace or even base intellect

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Wolfy
Jul 13, 2009

honestly the way it reads they wrote it that way to preserve the picking up trash on the freeway after getting a duii industrial complex

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's basically probation instead of prison and prison labor. Being forced to do a DUI class or community service is not really the same thing as going to prison and being required to do prison labor.

gently caress off nerd

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

The funniest part of tonight IMO:

https://twitter.com/dellavolpe/status/1590190476334096386
https://twitter.com/cristinanextgen/status/1590106119220756480

So much for the "young people don't vote" lol

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

is the nyt saying boebert's going to win good or bad news for boebert?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Wouldn't that mean that an incarcerated person has the ability to work but can also choose not to? Since working requires consent of the worker. If anything wouldn't that put it under US labor laws and also mean prisoners could unionize theoretically, since they are no longer classified as slavery instead of labor?

What makes you think working requires consent? It’s a meaningless feel good ballot initiative

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

they were a tiny percentage, they just broke for higher ratios

speng31b
May 8, 2010


completely insane statistic lol

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

1glitch0 posted:

Plz renamed thread:

the demokkkrats are going to be destrroyed in 2024

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Vim Fuego posted:

I'm going back to NeoGAF

It's not news... It's FARK

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



that's why they had to put their thumb on the scale so hard to ratfuck bernie

Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019

by vyelkin

Malloc Voidstar posted:

banning slavery but saying that a court may order the convicted person to "engage in... other alternatives to incarceration, as part of sentencing for the crime, in accordance with programs that have been in place historically" can be interpreted pretty easily to allow "slavery that isn't called slavery"

though i guess prison labor is banned? since it has to be an alternative to incarceration
unless you can do community service inside a prison

I think it means like go to rehab, do community service, etc

but lol they'll try and figure out a way around it

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The Republicans primaried their #4 person in the House because she voted to impeach Trump and now the person who primaried her just lost an R+6 district and the prediction has moved to an almost tie in the House, lmao.



Dems are losing a bunch of close House races in New York/New Jersey that will probably keep them from holding on

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

atelier morgan posted:

you are beyond the reach of god's grace or even base intellect

Not going to prison and taking a DUI class, going to rehab, or having to pick up cans on the side of the road for 10 hours is technically forced labor, but it is definitely a different situation than going to prison and being assigned to a work group. Just saying that it isn't allowing them to do the exact same thing they do now. It's a level 5 sentence deferred (probation before judgement) and not a prison sentence.

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

i should never have left gameFAQs

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Shear Modulus posted:

someone needs to run whatever analysis is necessary to see if joe biden's plan to kill all the republican voters by making them refuse to get vaccinated actually worked

Demographics are destiny!

Noob Saibot
Jan 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
I want you all to know that the DNC is not without mercy and they will be accepting apologies from select members of this thread so long you pledge your support and loyalty to our 2024 candidate, the most qualified candidate in history I might add, Hillary Clinton

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



every election is going to have the SPR emptied out now lol

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Not going to prison and taking a DUI class, going to rehab, or having to pick up cans on the side of the road for 10 hours is technically forced labor, but it is definitely a different situation than going to prison and being assigned to a work group. Just saying that it isn't allowing them to do the exact same thing they do now. It's a level 5 sentence deferred (probation before judgement) and not a prison sentence.

why is some strange being, possessed of a mod star and the ability to type and speak but without even the slightest of thoughts or desires or ability to communicate, posting

who set this experiment in motion

is this what machine learning black boxes have led to

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

atelier morgan posted:

why is some strange being, possessed of a mod star and the ability to type and speak but without even the slightest of thoughts or desires or ability to communicate, posting

who set this experiment in motion

is this what machine learning black boxes have led to

lt2012 does the same poo poo in doomsday ec, they're just really dumb. ignore them!

Wolfy
Jul 13, 2009

well I decided to look into this issue a bit further
https://www.cpr.org/2022/02/15/prisoners-allege-forced-labor-violates-states-anti-slavery-law/

it appears that what happens is you get the anti slavery law on the books, the work programs remain, and the courts have to figure out if the law actually applies to prison labor

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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sorry boobert sorry oz

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

anime was right posted:

lt2012 does the same poo poo in doomsday ec, they're just really dumb. ignore them!

i'm not allowed to ignore the strange and unwelcome creature, owing to the mod star

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

C-SPAN Caller posted:

It's still sadly in the constitution so until an amendment passes people are going to be hosed federally, which is wild to me.

Good step in the right direction though and a long time coming, only the 4th state I believe to have banned slavery in all forms.

idk if that's how it works, bro

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Missouri voted to legalize weed.

North Dakota and South Dakota voted down legalized weed.

The Dakotas are officially the least chill states.

Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019

by vyelkin

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Missouri voted to legalize weed.

North Dakota and South Dakota voted down legalized weed.

The Dakotas are officially the least chill states.

North Dakota has the highest rate of alcohol abuse per capita.

Because there's loving nothing to do in North Dakota but drink

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Wolfy posted:

well I decided to look into this issue a bit further
https://www.cpr.org/2022/02/15/prisoners-allege-forced-labor-violates-states-anti-slavery-law/

it appears that what happens is you get the anti slavery law on the books, the work programs remain, and the courts have to figure out if the law actually applies to prison labor

Looking forward to the 6-3 Supreme Court ruling that due to the 13th amendment slavery is here to stay

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

curious how the right is going to handle this result, especially more red states voting down anti-abortion ballot measures. More purges? Trump promises to legalize abortion during his campaign? The true nuts keep digging in? How much further will the supreme court gently caress with the federal govt?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



In Training posted:

curious how the right is going to handle this result, especially more red states voting down anti-abortion ballot measures. More purges? Trump promises to legalize abortion during his campaign? The true nuts keep digging in? How much further will the supreme court gently caress with the federal govt?

probably scream about how the rigging is getting even worse

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

In Training posted:

curious how the right is going to handle this result, especially more red states voting down anti-abortion ballot measures. More purges? Trump promises to legalize abortion during his campaign? The true nuts keep digging in? How much further will the supreme court gently caress with the federal govt?

Have the Supreme Court overturn all the elections they don't like.

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

is boebert dead yet

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Poor Martin Quezada just got poo poo on by ~10% of Arizonans who voted straight ticket D except for him for some reason.

Gotta feel bad when you are weirdly singularly unpopular for no reason.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



there's still 2 months left for the democrats to get destroyed somehow, maybe like pizzagate gets confirmed real or something

e: The Storm will happen and trump and the secret patriotic government will lock them all up

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
I feel vindicated in not beliving the Patty Murray scare polls. Not enthused about her victory, but glad Smiley didn't win.

Noob Saibot
Jan 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Poor Martin Quezada just got poo poo on by ~10% of Arizonans who voted straight ticket D except for him for some reason.

Gotta feel bad when you are weirdly singularly unpopular for no reason.



Asians are perceived as being better at math

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Shear Modulus posted:

there's still 2 months left for the democrats to get destroyed somehow, maybe like pizzagate gets confirmed real or something

dems are more than capable of destroying themselves without need for an election to do it

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Looking forward to the 6-3 Supreme Court ruling that due to the 13th amendment slavery is here to stay

That’s not really how it works. At least theoretically the federal bill of rights is meant to be a floor and not a ceiling. That said, measure 112 is mostly about removing embarrassing language from the state constitution, which honestly is a perfectly valid thing to do, and very intentionally written sloppily/vaguely

Nothing says that the “education, counseling, treatment, community service or other alternatives to incarceration” have to be in lieu of incarceration. Just that they are still acceptable. Reading the below why wouldn’t a sentence of 9 months and counseling be valid. That’s a sentence of incarceration and counseling. So if incarceration and counseling is valid, so is incarceration and community service, so in that case another valid sentence is incarceration and an alternative to incarceration (concurrently served) where that alternative is work release (but since you’re incarcerated your work release has to be supervised, preferably in the prison complex…

(2.) Upon conviction of a crime, an Oregon court or a probation or parole agency may order the convicted person to engage in education, counseling, treatment, community service or other alternatives to incarceration, as part of sentencing for the crime, in accordance with programs that have been in place historically or that may be developed in the future, to provide accountability, reformation, protection of society or rehabilitation.

maruhkati
Sep 29, 2021

NAZ REID

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

North Dakota has the highest rate of alcohol abuse per capita.

Because there's loving nothing to do in North Dakota but drink

I went to a concert at the Fargodome once. Never seen so many people show up drunk to something they paid money for.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Well now that the Dems detained their political majority they can pass lots of helpful legislation Lol.

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

In Training posted:

Well now that the Dems detained their political majority they can pass lots of helpful legislation Lol.

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