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ninjewtsu posted:what the gently caress is an "enhanced human" In Elan's case, I'd assume it involves somehow infusing his nervous system with Permet in order to lessen the strain?
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ninjewtsu posted:what the gently caress is an "enhanced human" Unless there’s something in the show that says otherwise, it could just be surgery. Wolverine is an enhanced mutant and nobody messed with his genes.
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Just wanna say I enjoyed seeing people's reactions to Elan from those who are new to Gundam and the cyber newtype trope as a whole.Ammat The Ankh posted:The insane theorycrafting is fun so long as you don't take it too seriously. Yeah, this I agree with. It's interesting reading everyone's theories on what's going on so long as it doesn't devolve into getting heated and accusing others of not having basic media literacy or whatever. Just have fun with it.
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My theory is that Guel will challenge Shaddiq, and then show up hours late wielding a mobile suit sized bokken and soundly defeat him.
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Buschmaki posted:My theory is that Guel will challenge Shaddiq, and then show up hours late wielding a mobile suit sized bokken and soundly defeat him. That would be amazing, Guel needs a W.
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Gripweed posted:Unless there’s something in the show that says otherwise, it could just be surgery. Wolverine is an enhanced mutant and nobody messed with his genes. Once you introduce "we stole your face and replaced it with this kid's face" nothing's off the table, and in fact escalation is likely
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Nov 10, 2022 01:52
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The big monkey wrenches thrown in from episode 6 are the mention of a 21-year old vendetta and Elan's vision of spectral Eri(s). The former necessitates something weird going on if Belmeria is referring to the attack on Fólkvangr, or knowledge of another unspecified event if not. If Fólkvangr, Suletta has to be 8 years older than the 17 she supposedly is now to make the dates line up. In Fólkvangr's favor: it's the biggest impact we know of in Elnora's life that she'd want to take revenge for, and 21 years seems a bit more fitting for the aging of Delling and Sarius. Still, it's unlikely anybody from Vanadis made it out of Fólkvangr alive beyond the two in Lfrith, so presumably she was a colleague that was off-station at the time. Bel knows of Prospera's daughter and doesn't give any indication that she should be older than she is. And she's not questioning if the Lfrith was upgraded, so either she was in the dark about that project, or the Aerial is too different for Bel to believe it's the same machine. The Eri appearance linked specifically with Aerial is certainly food for thought, especially with the potential of the bits being separate entities as well, but there's not a whole lot to read further on that front - Suletta's pretty consistent in talking directly to and hearing Aerial's voice - the only "everyone" is when she's directing the other bits to protect and free the trapped one during the fight. Plus, most of the symbolism in the music videos around Eri links her with Aerial, but doesn't really show multiple others. On the latter, at least, I think the key is Permet - remembering that the glossary says that one of its properties is sharing information between individual pieces. If we think of Eri representing Aerial, then the bits can just be linked directly giving her multiple "bodies". We also haven't seen the blue interfacing lines appear since the Prologue. My own feelings are that the AI modeled itself on Eri when they were freely Permet-linked back in Lfrith, and she's just never updated her self-image since then. I'm also hesitant to believe Suletta must be a clone, since we don't really have that established as a major technology in the setting, Prospera's resources are not likely to have been as extensive as Peil Technologies (which was about neck and neck with Jeturk in the earnings chart) who have only really gone as far as extensive cosmetic surgery and alterations, and Elnora's own strengths having been apparent in mobile suit piloting and engineering, and AI development; there's no biological work involved beyond human-machine interfacing through Permet. It's possible that whomever she's working with is working in that field, I'm not really gonna rule anything out of hand, but just going on what's definitely known it doesn't really fit the puzzle pieces. Though, even with modern real-world technology, sperm can be preserved for quite a while, so it's also not impossible that Suletta is simply a second child of Nadim, either. We're still probably in for some twists to shock, anyway.
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Didn't notice this on the first watch through, but I think we have Bel's full name. Right before Ariel's EMP burst (17:30 in the Crunchyroll stream), Elan says "Belmeria Winston, your diagnosis missed the mark."
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TasogareNoKagi posted:Didn't notice this on the first watch through, but I think we have Bel's full name. Yeah, all the characters have cards with their names on the site. https://en.gundam.info/about-gundam/series-pages/witch/character/29/
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I like the cryo fan theory more. They drifted to Mercury in the Lfrith over 8 years in hibernation.
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Interview with the character designer, Mogumo. Some insights: The director, Hiroshi Kobayashi, was the one that decided on the rough aesthetic for the school uniforms before character-specific adaptation with style and accessories The uniforms were inspired by western military academies, but Kobayashi didn't want them too modern/contemporary, but rather, a sort of "timeless" look that'd be iconic and easily memorable. Suletta needed to look like a meek and shy country girl who nevertheless could sell the idea of someone that can reliably step up when needed. Miorine was tailored to complement Suletta's design and look good together next to her - things like their hair-styles being similar but Suletta's being fluffy while Miorine's is straight. Suletta was always going to be the tallest girl and Miorine small even compared to most of the other girls. Miorine's uniform was the hardest to design - in the original drafts of the story, she wasn't even a student, and had a "skimpier, more high-class" outfit. When they gave her a uniform, it was a bit extra-plain at first so some reworks to make it stand out a bit had to be done. Chuchu is slightly shorter than Miorine and slightly thicker than most of the other girls as well. Guel is meant to have a versatile look where he can appear mean, cool, or silly for the scene. Elan was always meant to have a classic "prince" look, but originally he had white tights and that seemed a bit much so they settled on a jabot instead. Shaddiq is meant to seem different from the other students. He may appear easy-going and relaxed, but he's also the one that's closest to the adult world.
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What's the takes so far? I heard some really enjoyed the first ep. I'm optimistic, but the school setting and whatnot has me a little less excited. Although I did enjoy Code Geass, by this writer I think. I like my Gundam a little more oldschool-ish, and it seems every anime is kids in school more than ever. Plus I liked how even High School anime characters in the 80s or 90s seemed like they were 27. Kind of like in 80s and 90s films. But if it rocks it rocks. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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Heavy Metal posted:What's the takes so far? I heard some really enjoyed the first ep. I'm optimistic, but the school setting and whatnot has me a little less excited. Although I did enjoy Code Geass, by this writer I think. It's not a normal high school. So far it seems very unlikely that's gonna be a culture festival episode or anything like that.
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Nov 10, 2022 04:25
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Don't pretend that a cultural festival episode with Gundams wouldn't rule.
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Just imagine a Gundam Maid Cafe. Gundam turning over giant takoyaki at a stand outside.
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We survived a hot springs episode, we can take a matsuri too.
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The setting is a school, but it really hasn't...actually focused on any school stuff.
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That could be pretty funny. Hot springs eps are classic, Outlaw Star yes indeed. Miorine Rembran is probably my other deterring factor, I don't really dig that kind of character design for this universe. Blushing young lasses, seems like it's pandering to the same popular trends. They just keep going to that well. But if the thread considers it good Gundam, I gotta try it some day.
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I Am Fowl posted:Just imagine a Gundam Maid Cafe. Gundam turning over giant takoyaki at a stand outside.  Dolores, I was ahead of its time.
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Miorine is not really a blushing young lass, she is full of anger and violence. Not as much as Chuchu, but we can't all be Chuchu.
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I just wanted to be creative and not say moe character marketed with lots of merch etc. The design is what I find blah, I'm sure the character does badass stuff.
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Heavy Metal posted:What's the takes so far? I heard some really enjoyed the first ep. I'm optimistic, but the school setting and whatnot has me a little less excited. Although I did enjoy Code Geass, by this writer I think. It's The Tempest meets Utena Heavy Metal posted:Miorine Rembran is probably my other deterring factor, I don't really dig that kind of character design for this universe. Blushing young lasses, seems like it's pandering to the same popular trends. They just keep going to that well. But if the thread considers it good Gundam, I gotta try it some day. Miorine is a gamer gal who calls her father a "lovely dad" and challenges him to duels.
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Heavy Metal posted:I just wanted to be creative and not say moe character marketed with lots of merch etc. The design is what I find blah, I'm sure the character does badass stuff. You dum.
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“You can’t just assume they have cloning tech. Now let’s assume they have cryogenic tech.”
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Sharkopath posted:You dum. I'm not, I just don't enjoy a trend and style that you do as much. Technowolf posted:It's The Tempest meets Utena Right on. If it looked and sounded like Utena, it'd be a done deal. We just need to rewind anime trends 25 years is all.
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I think it is okay for a show's aesthetics and character archetypes to deviate from a show made 30 years ago. Also the best Gundam character, Turn A Gundam, contains the most moe protagonist
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I didn't bring up that show, just saying it had a great style more unique than this one. Some shows today have cool character designs.
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Honestly in that case I'd just wait till the end of the cour. So far the show's very fun and good and I have faith in it but who knows, it could just absolutely faceplant in the last couple eps of the cour or whatever.
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Heavy Metal posted:Plus I liked how even High School anime characters in the 80s or 90s seemed like they were 27. Kind of like in 80s and 90s films. But if it rocks it rocks. what
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Amuro was two years younger than Suletta is here.
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miorines not even moe????????????
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Tae posted:what This is a pretty known thing, y'know like Luke Perry and Kristy Swanson in the Buffy movie, or 30 year olds in 90210 etc. And people joking about characters from 90s street tough anime shows etcs being portrayed or seeming like they're in their 20s. That Chad guy in Bleach etc. He's 16, so is the cast of this Witch show. And definitely Amuro is a great style and portrayal that I like. Its a lighthearted stylistic thing that some find unrealistic, the older style high school cast. Having more childish or whatever adjective characters in a school setting may make some sense, but it's not as appealing to me as the older vibe. Especially for a war show. Plus it just seems like every show has the same thing, people were talking about the pale haired girl in Cyberpunk too. I get the vibe that a different take on this is seemingly unwelcome, but hey I'm one of the gang. I have Martian Successor Nadesico on DVD etc. edit: My take in a nutshell: that GaoGaiGar/Code Geass guy does the character design, everybody wins. Or Masami Obari. (Anybody see that funny Masami Obari episode of Pop Team Epic?) Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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We already established the most moe character in the show is Ariel.Kokoro Wish posted:Is it wrong that I find this absolutely adorable?
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galagazombie posted:“You can’t just assume they have cloning tech. Now let’s assume they have cryogenic tech.” Girls, girls. They're both dumb ideas. Waffleman_ posted:Amuro was two years younger than Suletta is here. Char was like 20. Dude was a true freak.
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amuro runs off into the desert with one can of beans and the gundam, extremely 15 year old move
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One bit of evidence against the '21 years ago' line referring to the Vanadis attack is that in episode 2 during the interrogation, they ask her if she's part of Vanadis, which is a bit of a weird question to ask a 17 year old if the organization was destroyed four years before she was born.
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Cirina posted:One bit of evidence against the '21 years ago' line referring to the Vanadis attack is that in episode 2 during the interrogation, they ask her if she's part of Vanadis, which is a bit of a weird question to ask a 17 year old if the organization was destroyed four years before she was born. I mean it's a weird thing to ask of a girl who would have been four too. Though apparently my cousin in Germany was asked if she was ever part of the Stasi when she applied for a teaching position there, despite being a child when the Berlin Wall fell, so who knows.
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I'm not sure how you can simultaneously claim you don't like moe but you want CLAMP to design the characters.
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It's on the sheet, they have to ask if it's on the sheet.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:I mean it's a weird thing to ask of a girl who would have been four too. She turned up out of nowhere in what looks an awful lot like a Gundam, and the concern is probably more that there's some lingering/returning element of the known "Terrorist" organization still around fielding machines like the alleged Aerial Gundam.
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