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Randalor posted:Part of me would love to know his thought process behind that There's a real argument underneath there that the GOP is much wiser to go with Trump because their only hope of winning in 2024 is to drive turnout like Trump did in 2020, there's no evidence Desantis could revive the weird coalition of Trump voters many of whom never voted before.
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Kalit posted:If this is true, I bet he's pissed that he didn't announce it the eve of election night And you have to wonder, if he'd said he was running on Monday, would that have driven even MORE people out to the polls to vote against all his shitbird candidates or what?
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nine-gear crow posted:And you have to wonder, if he'd said he was running on Monday, would that have driven even MORE people out to the polls to vote against all his shitbird candidates or what? TBH, I doubt it would have made a difference. But then if he loses in 2024, he could have used the underwhelming performance of the 2022 midterms dampening his glorious announcement as an [additional] excuse. Kalit fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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Nov 10, 2022 03:46
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God willing, one of DOJ/NY/GA has Trump in jail for 2024.
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Silly Burrito posted:God willing, one of DOJ/NY/GA has Trump in jail for 2024. Congress (for obvious reasons) can't make a law restricting someone's eligibility for president beyond what exists in the constitution.
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Nov 10, 2022 03:59
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He can run if he's indicted or in jail, but yesterday basically showed us that would be futile. That would be absolutely disastrous.
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FishBulbia posted:All trump had to do was say it was a chinese bioweapon and chuds would still be walking around in p100 full face respirators He pretty much did. Thing is that the messaging is one thing, but chuds literally cannot accept the idea that they have to take personal responsibility or even the minimum level of basic caution in the face of an actual threat. BiggerBoat posted:Are you talking about talk radio? Because this is not remotely close to being true. They loving love the dude and one guy I caught today was actually ragging on DOnald for loving this Red Wave up for the GOP, much to my suprise. Anyone familiar with pro wrestling understands this, Vince McMahon, Trump's actual friend and possible half-brother, has spent years strangling half his talent in the crib because he can't abide anyone becoming popular without him making it so.
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DeSantis using his weather machine to go after Trump. https://twitter.com/capitalweather/status/1590469987806109696
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Nov 10, 2022 05:19
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If Trump dies from a hurricane this week that would be extremely poetic.
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God punishing Florida for its election sins.
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Youth Decay posted:DeSantis using his weather machine to go after Trump. I'm not saying I want Trump to die in a hurricane surrounded by all the remaining evidence of his many crimes which we know drat well the DoJ hasn't gotten all of but I forgot how I was going to finish this sentence.
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Jaxyon posted:I'd say I hope that this election made it clear that the "lets overturn the election" poo poo was a political loser, but I know in my heart it's not going to. eh nothing in politics is ever a clear final victory or defeat, but this was clearly a major shift from 2020 and I'm happy to see American institutions and ~the peaceful transfer of power~ get a dub
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I wonder if Twitter will last long enough for them to get around to selling red check marks.
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Mizaq posted:I wonder if Twitter will last long enough for them to get around to selling red check marks. Green check marks to round it out.
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Nov 10, 2022 06:02
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I'm saving up for those inevitable yellow stars.
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At least the midterms are over and indictment watch is in full effect now.
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Youth Decay posted:DeSantis using his weather machine to go after Trump. Is this that "red wave" they're talking about?
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Kalit posted:If this is true, I bet he's pissed that he didn't announce it the eve of election night That would have pushed up the Dem turnout enough to at least flip the WI senate seat and a few more house seats.
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aventari posted:I'm saving up for those inevitable yellow stars.
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H.R. Hufflepuff posted:I'm not saying I want Trump to die in a hurricane surrounded by all the remaining evidence of his many crimes which we know drat well the DoJ hasn't gotten all of but I forgot how I was going to finish this sentence. You wouldn't want him to die in a hurricane because that would be him getting away too easy. Now, rendered homeless, even just temporarily, as the hurricane scours his property from the face of the planet? I'm fine with that.
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Isn't there a clause in the contract for MarLaGo that Trump can't live there? Rich people almost always escape justice unless they are harming other rich people. I have a feeling nothing is going to happen to Trump but a slap on the wrist if that.
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ManBoyChef posted:Isn't there a clause in the contract for MarLaGo that Trump can't live there? They're beyond the concept of laws or contracts quote:Town officials in Palm Beach, Florida, will not block former President Donald Trump from living at his club Mar-a-Lago, the Palm Beach Daily News reported Friday, after residents in the town had objected to Trump moving in after he left the White House due to the terms of the 1993 agreement establishing the club. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/05/07/trump-can-legally-live-at-mar-a-lago-palm-beach-says/?sh=1e2ed9906046
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Zotix posted:At least the midterms are over and indictment watch is in full effect now. This is the same rhetoric used when Obama stopped the Iraq War investigations on the Bush Administration.
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It would be pretty funny if the town regulations of Palm Beach ended up being the only laws of God or man that could bind Donald Trump though.
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Good news, looks like inflation may be decreasing: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/10/business/inflation-cpi-report Inflation went from 8.2% annual to 7.7% annual, it was projected to go to 7.9%. So even better than expected. Wished it happened a lil’ earlier. Not looking forward to the winter tho.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Heads up: Biden’s rhetoric has changed after the midterms to be “We need to look forwards, not backwards. We need to heal the country.” In https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1590703319240298496 The House Freedom Caucus seeks to enshrine the unofficial policy of the House's most famous child predator unless, apparently, it conflicts with their other goal: getting to force a vote on anything that half of their membership agrees to cosponsor. There are many flaws with the relatively recent emergence of the strong speaker structure in the House but this is the Freedom Caucus opening the (potential) speakership contest with a demand that the speaker cede most of their negotiating power off the jump and the right to force their colleagues into damaging votes on irrelevant and unpassable amendments at any time. Fuller doesn't highlight this in the tweet but don't sleep on the motion to vacate either. Been a minute since American Parliament has had the ability to table a vote of no confidence. The reason people are talking about the potential chaos of a slim majority is this: Even if you assume that 75% Tortilla Coasters are all bark and no bite and aren't willing to let absolutely everything burn to get their way, the remaining quarter of the caucus can easily deny the votes necessary to be named speaker (or pass any bill without Dem support). If the speaker candidate does agree to the extortionate demands, he (or she?) can look forward to every military spending bill including an amendment the house must vote on to rename all the renamed confederate bases after the patriotic political prisoners of January 6. On the other hand, if the 218-217 scenario comes to pass, Newhouse and Valadao could kill all GOP-only legislation unless they're promised that only Republicans who didn't oppose impeachment are allowed in leadership. More realistically: If two whip candidates each find one ally who refuses to vote for the speaker unless their buddy is named whip, there's no speaker. The outgroup homogenity that fuels the myth of GOP uniformity is about to get a real asskicking if they do manage to scrape a house majority.
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Assuming the Dems don't pull off a miracle on top of a miracle and eke a one-seat majority, the parliamentary chaos the next two years are likely to hold is a delightful silver lining. A strong leader with a disciplined caucus would absolutely prefer a tiny majority to a tiny minority, even if they'd have to buy a two year supply of antacid in advance. For failson like McCarthy, that calculus is a lot harder.
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If the freedom caucus nutjobs take over de-facto (or actual) control of the house leadership won't that just allow for defections for R's in swing districts or Rs in D+ districts?
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davecrazy posted:If the freedom caucus nutjobs take over de-facto (or actual) control of the house leadership won't that just allow for defections for R's in swing districts or Rs in D+ districts? I'd actually need to think on that more. A 1:1 trade of conservative house member for lifetime conservative judge is very bad for Dems in a vacuum, but the merits may change when it means flipping the House.
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davecrazy posted:If the freedom caucus nutjobs take over de-facto (or actual) control of the house leadership won't that just allow for defections for R's in swing districts or Rs in D+ districts? Yes, that's the fun of it: if you appease the squishy vulnerable Republicans (like, say, the ones who narrowly won in NYS districts that a competent Dem could easily take in 2024), you risk your screaming death cultists grinding everything to a halt or worse in a fit of pique. Vice versa, too, although the vulnerable Republicans are probably more likely to just block things and less likely to do big showy gently caress-you things. If there's one thing Kevin McCarthy is almost certainly glad of right now, it's that they'll probably still have a Democratic Senate to send their bills to die, which will make it somewhat easier to get rebellious Reps on board for show votes on dumb things. e: oh, no, nobody's switching parties, but on a vote by vote basis? Imagine four Joe Manchins on the edge of a caucus.
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The markets have spiked up a lot today due to the October CPI coming in lower than expected. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/10/treasury-yields-dip-ahead-of-consumer-inflation-report.html I think we've gone into detail about how gamed the CPI is as a measurement, but the Democrats still could have used this news last week.
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Paracaidas posted:The same dynamics that give the Freedom Caucus the ability to pick their leadership does the same for the wouldbe defectors. No reason to switch parties when you can just tell the Freedom Caucus to gently caress off and try again. The bigger question (that I've not seen anyone look into in the updated environment) is if there are any Republicans in states where Dem governors can appoint a replacement. The old "trick" of giving a cabinet position to opposing members is probably ineffective at this point thanks to Sessions very publicly experiencing the downside of the trade (it's for an atwill position), but if there are 1-3 congresscritters who'd trade a purple seat in a blue state for a lifetime appointment to the federal judiciary.... The big difference is that for the first time in as long as I can remember there's a meaningful push for Rs to move towards the center (or at least not openly wage war on women and democracy). The brinksmanship calculus was different when the question was just 'right or even more right?'
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Herstory Begins Now posted:The big difference is that for the first time in as long as I can remember there's a meaningful push for Rs to move towards the center (or at least not openly wage war on women and democracy). The brinksmanship calculus was different when the question was just 'right or even more right?'  s could disrupt things all by themselves, but I think the controlling dynamic is the same as what spared us the Grand Bargain, choked on the AHCA and showed up on stage in 2012 with the primary question about the ratio of tax increases and spending cuts.There's been nothing to indicate to me that the party has even started to shift towards "we'll let Democrats get a thing if it means we'll get ten bigger things". Until that happens, I don't see a change in brinksmanship culture.
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I'd argue that it isn't a culture shift it's that the writing is on the wall about what makes you viable and what kills your campaign dead in competitive districts.
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Paracaidas posted:Is there a source for this quote? https://youtu.be/eSdukteb9k8
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Automata 10 Pack posted:If Trump dies from a hurricane this week that would be extremely poetic. Insh'allah
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Paracaidas posted:An unlisted video that has nothing to do with Biden or Politics? Whoops one second, YouTube must’ve stuck an ad url in my clipboard Edit: https://youtu.be/61fPzTdjhgI Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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