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This probably isn't an accurate take. First, the tweet reporting that moderation staff lost their access is more than a week old. Those who weren't laid off probably have access back now. Second, it is likely that the tweet is referring to Twitter corporate full time employees and not to the large number of low paid contract workers in somewhere like Kuala Lumpur who actually crank through tweets and make simple decisions like "is this porn y/n?" If these people are still working then a lot of moderation can still happen, likely even the majority of it. The corporate full timers in Trust & Safety do things like make policy, monitor system metrics like rate of false positives/ false negatives and overall rate of bad content, and set up the workflows for the contract workers. They're well paid tech workers. They also adapt policy and processes to changes in the abuse environment. Without these people, eventually the low paid contractor workflows will break down / become ineffective, but that would take some time. Of course, with Elon rapidly and capriciously changing policy it may be very difficult to maintain the workflows for the low paid contract workers to continue working effectively.
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JaneError posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590884973535711232?s=46&t=m6ll5gSbcuk0-Ep6wDUOmQ "Which I will rigorously enforce with my moderating team of 15 people"
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Frank Frank posted:Wasn't it ruled a while ago that social media platforms aren't responsible for what their users post? I remember that being a big talking point/campaign promise when Trump was in office. Yeah but twitter has 'verified' these people, that's what they're calling the checkmark after all. They've engaged in a process where they're claiming the user behind this and the messages they send are 'verified'. I'll bet that may make a major legal difference.
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Gros Tarla posted:Someone ought to do the lettuce thing with Twitter. Maybe throw in a few bunches of coriander too as I feel the lettuce may be slightly too tough. https://mobile.twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1588714014749904896
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Victory Lap posted:Here's a good summary of yesterday and today's insanity, with a couple nuggets I hadn't seen in this thread yet quote:Soon the timeline would comprise mostly tweets from paid subscribers, he said, with the rest relegated to a zone comparable to Gmail’s spam filter. This will absolutely destroy Twitter.
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Brigadier Sockface posted:What Man I loving love it when Europeans find out how loving poo poo America is
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Frank Frank posted:This will absolutely destroy Twitter. https://twitter.com/TY_PESH/status/1590478486640418816
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It's crazy that he's still tweeting exclusively about this verification poo poo nonstop. Like there are no other ideas at all about trying to make it a service worth paying for or any other improvements for twitter in general. He's just spending all day trying not to turn into a corncob about this one loving thing and it's absolutely insane to see happen in real time.
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Frank Frank posted:Wasn't it ruled a while ago that social media platforms aren't responsible for what their users post? I remember that being a big talking point/campaign promise when Trump was in office. There’s a line, and I think a lot of it has to do with “if something breaks the law, or commissions a crime, can the website delete it?” And it doesn’t always have to be a crime per se, it could just be “legally actionable,” like defamation. Someone imitated Tony LaRussa, so Twitter settled and agreed to come up with a verification process. No crime committed, and the remedy was something Twitter did voluntarily. So now if someone imitates Tony LaRussa AND they have a blue verification checkmark? Now Twitter’s breaching their settlement. Fun!
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explosivo posted:It's crazy that he's still tweeting
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Frank Frank posted:Wasn't it ruled a while ago that social media platforms aren't responsible for what their users post? I remember that being a big talking point/campaign promise when Trump was in office. But! What happens when you start overtly making adjustments to the contents of your user's speech? Like adding check marks to "certify" their identity? Then you're engaging in conduct that goes beyond simply being a billboard. This become a novel legal exercise in what happens when you take something like "we totes think this guy/gal/company is cool because they gave us $8" and it turns out that you certified Piotr in Moscow to be the official account for Burger King worldwide, who tells everyone that you should not eat anything from the franchise because there was an accidental release of rat poison at the Burger King factory. What happens at that point? We're outside §230 protection, I think, because when contemplated some rando posting "I got food poisoning at a restaurant" on your service is one thing, actually promoting the account to be True and Geniune™ is quite another.
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Lol when did the same go through again? This has been a wild ride.
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lmao D&D nerds absolutely dunking on the world's richest man. What a sight.
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It probably wouldn't be too hard to figure out the remaining list of major advertisers with Twitter and to specifically do brand-damaging parodies of those businesses until they cut ties in order to speed up the death spiral.
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Ok, Lockheedmartini is a good name and feels like something I should be able to order at a bar
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What blows my mind about stuff like that fake Lockheed Martin thing, and the rest of these verification hiccups, is like, it was made hours ago and they have like 30 followers - how is this hitting the larger audience to even get traction? Is the algorithm so stupid that its promoting fakes as real? Like someone forgot to toggle the if_verified&name=closeenough flag or some poo poo? Or is this just journalists having a field day and they're all coming up with and amplifying it?
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590886170543915009 Guys, knock it off okay
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How you gonna enforce that, Elon? I hear you have 15 moderators.
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SuddenCactus posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590886170543915009 How soon before Elon posts a QCS thread?
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https://twitter.com/wutangkids/status/1590781223932420097?s=46&t=pkKy8Up4BqeTwAnnDaJzUg So does this technically count as the second coming? He is risen for only $8.-
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Hey remember when Elon wanted to charge $20, received some slight pushback and caved to $8 immediately? Lmao
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Away all Goats posted:Hey remember when Elon wanted to charge $20, received some slight pushback and caved to $8 immediately? Lmao That had to have been a ploy right? I know he's dumb as poo poo but even a moron can figure out float a high number, then your real one looks reasonable.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:That had to have been a ploy right? I know he's dumb as poo poo but even a moron can figure out float a high number, then your real one looks reasonable. Sure, but Elon is dumber than the dumbest moron.
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Bad Purchase posted:furthermore any post made ironically must end with “(ironic)” Soon, all tweets will need to be prefixed like the Elcor With a sincerity such that skepticism would be deeply insulting: no.
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Lmao fake Lockheed Martin is going to start a war but my Trainwreck voyeur account was blocked within three minutes of making fun of Musk
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SilvergunSuperman posted:That had to have been a ploy right? I know he's dumb as poo poo but even a moron can figure out float a high number, then your real one looks reasonable. The Elon text messages that got released by the court case had them looking at $5 initially.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:That had to have been a ploy right? I know he's dumb as poo poo but even a moron can figure out float a high number, then your real one looks reasonable. Oh it probably was but it backfired when the first famous person to reply said "Bitch, you ought to be paying me for the privilege."
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Barudak posted:Ok, Lockheedmartini is a good name and feels like something I should be able to order at a bar too bad it would probably crash through the ceiling at mach 2 and kill you
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SuddenCactus posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590886170543915009 Bold words from a cryptoscammer
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