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I mean, they just won a WS, but it feels like it's hard to cheer for these people
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Nov 11, 2022 19:33
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The Astros FO is far worse than any player cheating scandal. It seems like a pretty toxic culture.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:34
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Popete posted:The Astros FO is far worse than any player cheating scandal. It seems like a pretty toxic culture. Remember Crane's disastrous first press conference after the cheating scandal broke? It's... bad
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Nov 11, 2022 19:35
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Red posted:I mean, they just won a WS, but it feels like it's hard to cheer for these people I don't cheer for the loving gm. I cheer for 450 foot back breaking homers that clear various national monuments.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:36
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Red posted:I mean, they just won a WS, but it feels like it's hard to cheer for these people It's actually quite easy to cheer for them because I like the players If we were cheering for the owners then I don't know who would cheer for anyone
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Nov 11, 2022 19:36
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Popete posted:The Astros FO is far worse than any player cheating scandal. It seems like a pretty toxic culture. You out there rooting for the Ricketts?
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Nov 11, 2022 19:39
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Why don't these fans simply boo their own team, and hate them?
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Nov 11, 2022 19:40
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99% of Astros fans won't give a gently caress because they just won a WS. It would be a bigger deal if they were losing. They didn't get along for over a year. It was going to happen no matter what. Crane could have handled it better
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Nov 11, 2022 19:41
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Sab0921 posted:You out there rooting for the Ricketts? The FO is more than just the owner. The Astros FO had a guy taunting a female reporter saying how happy they were to have hired a domestic abuser. The culture there seems particularly bad. But ok, sure. Can't criticize the Astros because other people exist.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:42
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Oh poo poo I hope they get rid of him soon
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Nov 11, 2022 19:43
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The fact Taubman felt comfortable doing that in front of other employees and reporters says a lot.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:46
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zoux posted:Why don't these fans simply boo their own team, and hate them? No see, you can't do that either. Just stand perfectly still at all times in silence.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:48
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zoux posted:I don't cheer for the loving gm. I cheer for 450 foot back breaking homers that clear various national monuments. I love the Phillies despite the fact that half the players are apparently Q-anon chuds. But that's the team I grew up with. I'm with them even if Middleton turned them into the '22 Reds. I'm sure there's a point where I throw all my Phillies stuff away, but thankfully that thing hasn't happened. I don't know how some Rays fans felt when some of their players threw a shitfit about wearing a Pride Night patch. It must suck to be a Nats fan right now, but I feel like a lot of their fans are casual anyhow. I think a lot of Cubs fans hate the owners, but it's not become dire, and it's not much different than the team was pre-2016 championship. Anyway. You take the team as a whole, and at some point, something becomes lovely enough where maybe you move on. If the FO ends up destroying the Astros in a few years through incompetence, then is that enough after the cheating thing, or do you just shrug and keep wearing the hat every day?
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Nov 11, 2022 19:49
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Intruder posted:If we were cheering for the owners then I don't know who would cheer for anyone The Mariners' new owner and front office seem less detestable than most.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:50
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Popete posted:The fact Taubman felt comfortable doing that in front of other employees and reporters says a lot. Shame on the Astros for being the one place where an employee who would later be fired for it acted like an entitled rear end in a top hat
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Nov 11, 2022 19:50
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Intruder posted:Shame on the Astros for being the one place where an employee who would later be fired for it acted like an entitled rear end in a top hat Popete made a totally reasonable statement that the Astros FO seems like a lovely culture and you are now going out of your way to defend them which seems like a poor use of time? He didn't conflate being a fan of the team with being a fan of the FO. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Nov 11, 2022 19:51
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Red posted:I love the Phillies despite the fact that half the players are apparently Q-anon chuds. But that's the team I grew up with. I'm with them even if Middleton turned them into the '22 Reds. I'm sure there's a point where I throw all my Phillies stuff away, but thankfully that thing hasn't happened. Y'all are gonna be back to booing Bryce Harper for going 0-13 in July. Inspector_666 posted:Popete made a totally reasonable statement that the Astros FO seems like a lovely culture and you are now going out of your way to defend them which seems like a poor use of time? He didn't conflate being a fan of the team with being a fan of the FO. It's also ignoring that *something happened* between Taubman and today that might mean the front office composition has changed, isn't it. Like seriously trying to pretend that the 2019 astros FO is identical to the 2022 astros FO after everything that happened. Come the gently caress on. zoux fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Nov 11, 2022 19:54
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Inspector_666 posted:Popete made a totally reasonable statement that the Astros FO seems like a lovely culture and you are now going out of your way to defend them which seems like a poor use of time? He didn't conflate being a fan of the team with being a fan of the FO. I don't see the point in bringing up a guy who was fired 3 years ago for the action in question under an entirely different FO other than to try to make Astros fans feel bad for liking the team they like e: (not necessary) Intruder fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Nov 11, 2022 19:59
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zoux posted:Y'all are gonna be back to booing Bryce Harper for going 0-13 in July. Yes, but I'll be wearing my Phillies hat when I do so quote:It's also ignoring that *something happened* between Taubman and today that might mean the front office composition has changed, isn't it. Didn't it take forever to actually fire Taubman
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Nov 11, 2022 20:01
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Red posted:
It took less than a week
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Nov 11, 2022 20:02
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When did I say Astros fans should feel bad about liking their team? You can still cheer for your team well recognizing lovely things. gently caress Tom Ricketts I wish he would sell the team but I'm not gonna stop being a Cubs fan. Taubman and the entire Osuna hiring was gross and I remember reading at the time a number of stories that did not paint the Astros FO in a good light. The discussion at the top of this page was about the optics of the pseudo firing of a GM who just won the team an untainted World Series.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:04
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Intruder posted:I don't see the point in bringing up a guy who was fired 3 years ago for the action in question under an entirely different FO other than to try to make Astros fans feel bad for liking the team they like IMO, considering Philly fans still get poo poo for throwing snowballs at Santa before most of us were born, I feel like trying to make Astros fans feel bad for something that happened 3 years ago (or 5 in the case of the cheating scandal) is perfectly valid on its own.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:06
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mentholmoose posted:IMO, considering Philly fans still get poo poo for throwing snowballs at Santa before most of us were born, I feel like trying to make Astros fans feel bad for something that happened 3 years ago (or 5 in the case of the cheating scandal) is perfectly valid on its own. Excuse me, it was batteries, and it was Jesus Christ.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:08
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1591126280225062912 If Bob's acting as Crane's mouthpiece, he's not making the guy look any better. LMAO Astros. Not getting rid of Crane is the worst punishment MLB could have levied against the team.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:08
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Also all fans and all teams are dogshit
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Nov 11, 2022 20:09
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It seems pretty clear Crane gave Click an offer he knew he would refuse just so he could say he gave him an offer
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Nov 11, 2022 20:09
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The entire edifice of professional sports is completely hosed top to bottom, if you want to pretend that your enjoyment of it is perfectly moral and that Astros fans' or whoever's is bad all you're gonna do is force yourself to ignore a bunch of heinous poo poo. It's all fundamentally compromised and caught up in myriad systems of domination and exploitation. It's all a matter of degree. Criticizing that poo poo is obviously good, but people love to dress up their continued outrage over 2017 (or whatever other thing they're mad about) as pure moral concern and not just the (totally understandable) emotional response that it is. Powerful men feeling like they can treat women badly and get away with it isn't unique to the Astros, it's completely endemic to our entire society and goes much deeper than "the team I hate is bad".
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Nov 11, 2022 20:09
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Me when ppl ask how can I possibly like the two time world champions: https://mobile.twitter.com/overtime/status/1591101398204104704 Ammat The Ankh posted:If Bob's acting as Crane's mouthpiece, he's not making the guy look any better. Crane is the MLB, and they would never sanction cutting off someone's head because to tomorrow it might be their head
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Nov 11, 2022 20:12
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https://twitter.com/juanctoribio/status/1591144278830460928 more time to post on r/the_donald at least! bright side, Blake!
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Nov 11, 2022 20:13
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Tatsuta Age posted:https://twitter.com/juanctoribio/status/1591144278830460928 lmao owned Thankfully for the Dodgers it's Friedman so he'll cobble together a group of castoffs to replace Treinen/Kimbrel/etc who'll all be better and cheaper, then at the deadline they'll trade some subway coupons for a guy with a 5 ERA and inexplicably unlock him into a relief ace.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:17
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Sydin posted:lmao owned
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Nov 11, 2022 20:20
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Personally I place the blame for all this posting on the front offices for not signing anyone or doing anything exciting Come on do something you jerks
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Nov 11, 2022 20:29
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Popete posted:When did I say Astros fans should feel bad about liking their team? You can still cheer for your team well recognizing lovely things. gently caress Tom Ricketts I wish he would sell the team but I'm not gonna stop being a Cubs fan. You recall trading for Aroldis Chapman as the final piece to deliver the Cubs a World Series right? Baseball orgs are filled with bad people who do bad things - except Jose who is perfect and spending his week with cancer patients who love him deeply
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Nov 11, 2022 20:30
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Intruder posted:Personally I place the blame for all this posting on the front offices for not signing anyone or doing anything exciting 3/90 for Verlander. Utilize that $$$ saved on Click
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Nov 11, 2022 20:31
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Intruder posted:Personally I place the blame for all this posting on the front offices for not signing anyone or doing anything exciting
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Nov 11, 2022 20:34
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I'm going to personally sign a shortstop this week.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:42
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In a tradition between the past and current World Series winners I hadn't heard of until now (apparently coined by the Sox in '14), Atlanta bought pizza for the Astros front office yesterday.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:49
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Inspector_666 posted:This is kind of wild, right? Won the WS, got a one-year offer?!
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Nov 11, 2022 20:49
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Ya I'm pretty sure the only GM I can find even close to doing that is Dombrowski getting canned the next summer and Pat Gillick giving the Jays a one year notice after 93.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:52
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Inspector_666 posted:No see, you can't do that either. Just stand perfectly still at all times in silence. thats boring as gently caress man just like baseball now that i think about it hmm
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