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This is an amazing stat that says the house is going to be one of the funniest legislatures in the world for the next two years: https://twitter.com/taniel/status/1591893144567959553?s=46&t=XdQiP1BZmFr4ib8l_6Jzfw
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evilweasel posted:This is an amazing stat that says the house is going to be one of the funniest legislatures in the world for the next two years: One thing to keep in mind is that a handful of those vacancies, especially early ones, came because the Biden admin appointed people to federal spots. Some were also just regular resignations in safe seats. If the house majority is at risk, quite a few of the resignations/appointments wouldn't happen. I'd expect a record low number of vacancies in a tight House majority either way. That said, there definitely will be a few deaths, so it's still chaos!
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The funniest option is the house flips because someone gets imprisoned
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evilweasel posted:This is an amazing stat that says the house is going to be one of the funniest legislatures in the world for the next two years: No vacations EVER for the GOP congresspeople if they take power. Boebert should hope she loses because she'll have to work a full-time job for the first time in her life. haveblue posted:The funniest option is the house flips because someone gets imprisoned I fully expect this to happen. The J6 inquiries are to go on until the new session starts and they're bound to find something. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Nov 14, 2022 |
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So given what happened this year, is there now a chance 2024 isnt a bloodbath of epic proportions in the senate for the democrats? I’m starting to feel a slight bit of hope….
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Young Freud posted:No vacations EVER for the GOP congresspeople if they take power. Boebert should hope she loses because she'll have to work a full-time job for the first time in her life. she's completely loving nuts but she worked for McDonald's and then oil/gas companies instead she'll throw a tantrum about her comfort gun or Mccarthy turning down her demand to investigate the caverns under Denver Airport run by the demon horse
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pencilhands posted:So given what happened this year, is there now a chance 2024 isnt a bloodbath of epic proportions in the senate for the democrats? I’m starting to feel a slight bit of hope…. Can Biden figure out a few things he can do Executive actions on to convince Gen Z to come vote for D's again?
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Kalli posted:Can Biden figure out a few things he can do Executive actions on to convince Gen Z to come vote for D's again? They can make voting more accessible, or keep it as accessible as it is. I think learning about and utilizing early and mail in voting really helped the youth turnout.
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Also: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
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Open abortion clinics on federal property in chud states
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GreyjoyBastard posted:she's completely loving nuts but she worked for McDonald's and then oil/gas companies
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Nov 14, 2022 01:24
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What if the states made it illegal to go onto federal property in order to get an abortion?
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Nov 14, 2022 01:27
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Charlz Guybon posted:Is this something you made up on the spot, or is it actually a reference to something? There's been a long running conspiracy that there's a massive underground complex of nefarious purposes that was built beneath Denver International Airport during it's construction in 1995. The airport is also home to a massive blue horse statue known as the Blue Mustang, which has been nicknamed Blucifer, because, well, it looks like loving THIS 
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Charlz Guybon posted:Is this something you made up on the spot, or is it actually a reference to something? it's a real thing people believe, lots of weird conspiracy theories exist about the denver airport
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Charlz Guybon posted:Is this something you made up on the spot, or is it actually a reference to something? it's a crazy reference, but it's a reference the Denver Airport has an actual modest tunnel system under it and also, its mascot is a big creepy metal horse statue that, upon completion, fell on its maker and killed him
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Sinema is an idiot and a liar, even by politician standards, so I'm pretty willing to discount this as total bullshit unless literally any other senator has made statements indicating it's true. It's definitely not outside the realm of possibility though. The alternative is that all 48 other Democratic senators are in total agreement on wanting good things, and it's just a complete coincidence that there are exactly enough conservative Dems to impede their agenda. Not saying that that's definitely untrue, but I think it would be foolish to just assume that Sinema is completely making poo poo up. I also don't think she's an idiot. She knows what she's doing. In any case it's going to be interesting to see whether Dem leadership is serious about dealing with her and Manchin or not. My prediction is that  will prevail and they'll continue to handle them them with kid gloves, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
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In their defense Denver Airport is loving weird as poo poo.
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Mizaq posted:What if the states made it illegal to go onto federal property in order to get an abortion? Make them enforce it. Women’s rights over their own bodies are at stake. Playtime is over
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nine-gear crow posted:There's been a long running conspiracy that there's a massive underground complex of nefarious purposes that was built beneath Denver International Airport during it's construction in 1995. The airport is also home to a massive blue horse statue known as the Blue Mustang, which has been nicknamed Blucifer, because, well, it looks like loving THIS Fun fact Blucifer fell over and killed its maker during its construction.
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Fister Roboto posted:It's definitely not outside the realm of possibility though. The alternative is that all 48 other Democratic senators are in total agreement on wanting good things, and it's just a complete coincidence that there are exactly enough conservative Dems to impede their agenda. Not saying that that's definitely untrue, but I think it would be foolish to just assume that Sinema is completely making poo poo up. It's literally a 50/50 Senate right now. It's not "a complete coincidence" that there's enough conservative Dems to impede their agenda, because the Dems have zero leeway and even one conservative Dem is enough to impede anything. And it's not "exactly enough" conservative Dems to impede their agenda, because there were in fact two conservative Dems openly blocking legislation this year, even though only one was needed to block legislation.
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And the Dems did in fact pass some legislation. By this falsification-proof framing, any blockage less than the full, theorized ideal set of policies can be a “coincidence” proving conspiracy.
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Discendo Vox posted:And the Dems did in fact pass some legislation. By this falsification-proof framing, any blockage less than the full, theorized ideal set of policies can be a “coincidence” proving conspiracy. I never claimed that the Dems didn't pass anything at all. I'd appreciate if you don't accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist based on this, thank you. Maine Paineframe is right though, I was misremembering things. But I stand by my belief that it is possible that what Sinema said is true. There is certainly evidence of there being many other conservative Dems, as we saw in the $15 minimum wage vote in 2021. Sinema got the most attention for her vote, but there were seven other Democratic senators who voted against it. Neither side of the argument is fully provable right now, but the next two years will provide evidence either way, I think.
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We got to the point where all but two Dem senators were in favor of removing the filibuster. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/filibuster-vote-count/ This would have been an earth-shattering change in the Senate, of enormously more importance even than a $15 minimum wage.
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Personally, I think the argument fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the Senate. After all, those seven senators didn't need to defect to block the minimum wage bill - just one Dem vote against was enough to block it. Manchin alone or Sinema alone could have blocked that bill, but instead, five other Dems (and Angus King) joined those two in voting against the bill, even though they didn't need to at all. If Sinema is representing a larger group that's hiding behind her, why didn't they hide behind her and Manchin there too? Why did they reveal themselves? For me, the answer is far simpler: those six senators opposed a $15 minimum wage but don't oppose re-establishing Roe. Because even though we lump them together into groups and factions, each and every senator is an individual with their own views, positions, and lines in the sand. There's no doubt that there are several senators that are more conservative than Chuck Schumer, but less conservative than Joe Manchin. If Manchin and Sinema were magically replaced with progressive Dems, one or two of those other conservative Dems would be the ones blocking Dem legislation and setting the limit of what Dems can do. But that doesn't mean that Manchin was just a rotating villain and that he's been swapped out for another. Those other conservative Dems will care about some issues that Manchin didn't care about, and will let some things pass that Manchin would have blocked. It's entirely possible to have 48 senators in favor of reestablishing Roe while only having 42 senators in favor of raising the minimum wage. If we added three more progressive senators, then we would be able to put Roe in legislation, but still wouldn't have enough votes to raise the minimum wage.
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Main Paineframe posted:There's no doubt that there are several senators that are more conservative than Chuck Schumer, but less conservative than Joe Manchin. And that doesn't mean there are "rotating villains" just that the realities of local politics and individual Senator values mean that some might vote differently. Senator A above isn't giving "cover" for Manchin to vote for the bill.
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Main Paineframe posted:Personally, I think the argument fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the Senate. After all, those seven senators didn't need to defect to block the minimum wage bill - just one Dem vote against was enough to block it. Yeah, that’s my point. The scope of “good things” and “their agenda” gets readjusted to whatever can’t pass with the current Senate composition. In this way, any outcome is a suspicious coincidence. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Main Paineframe posted:Personally, I think the argument fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the Senate. After all, those seven senators didn't need to defect to block the minimum wage bill - just one Dem vote against was enough to block it. I think your answer is sound, and I hope that you're right about it. At the very least, being able to codify Roe but not a $15 minimum wage would be consistent for the Dems as a liberal capitalist party. I don't necessarily agree with the "rotating villain" theory as it is usually discussed here, in the sense that it is a coordinated effort by the whole of the Democratic party to bamboozle their voter base. There's no need to believe that the entire party is in on it when it could just be a a small faction of conservative senators coordinating together. Or not even necessarily coordinating; they could just be opportunistically hiding behind Sinema as individuals. Regardless of the actual explanation, though, what we can see of it is 1-2 senators obstructing the party's agenda and a party leadership that is seemingly unable to stop them.
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Fister Roboto posted:Regardless of the actual explanation, though, what we can see of it is 1-2 senators obstructing the party's agenda and a party leadership that is seemingly unable to stop them.
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I want to be in the timeline where Dark Biden adds a massive erection to Blucifer.
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PhazonLink posted:I want to be in the timeline where Dark Biden adds a massive erection to Blucifer. Dark Brandon will be added to Blucipher and his erection will be larger than the horse's 
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So any of you got a take on this drama over Chris Magnus? He just had to resign as head of Customs and Border Protection. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/12/us/chris-magnus-resigns-cbp.html quote:When Mr. Biden appointed Mr. Magnus, a former police chief with a reputation for bringing reform, he was the first openly gay commissioner of the agency. Democrats hoped his decades of experience running police departments and changing longstanding law enforcement cultures would bring what many had considered to be much-needed reform to the U.S. Border Patrol, an agency that is part of C.B.P. It doesn't give me high hopes that much can be done with changing how CBP operates. It also reinforces my worries about how powerful (in all the wrong ways) the border patrol's union is. I hope they can find a replacement soon, though.
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the problem with the CBP is the same problem you have with police as a whole, which is, the kind of person who wants to do that job is the last person who actually be allowed to do it
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Eric Cantonese posted:So any of you got a take on this drama over Chris Magnus? He just had to resign as head of Customs and Border Protection. CBP is an infamously lovely organization to the extent that Trump and his people recognized they could weaponize it for dirty tricks, because it often attracts people chuddy enough that they are eager to become brownshirts and secret police: https://www.yahoo.com/news/operation-whistle-pig-inside-the-secret-cbp-unit-with-no-rules-that-investigates-americans-100000147.html I would say it actually exceeds how lovely cops can be because cops from everything I can gather are held to higher standards. Let that sink in. It's not great when the union is openly chuddy on social media. The whole thing is also protected from reform by being firmly planted in the middle of a political nerve center in America.
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PhazonLink posted:the timeline where Dark Biden adds a massive erection to Blucifer. Mike Pence suddenly becomes very conflicted about his party affiliation.
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Eric Cantonese posted:So any of you got a take on this drama over Chris Magnus? He just had to resign as head of Customs and Border Protection. that... does not sound good i knew mayorkas was not on board with the "send all the shitters to secure the Montana border against maple syrup smugglers" sort of
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The great irony about how CBP operates in the States is the number of absolute loving morons both Canada and Mexico encounter trying to exercise their 2nd amendment rights in a completely different country, and the moaning that occurs when our authorities enforce our own laws on our own soil.
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Fister Roboto posted:It's definitely not outside the realm of possibility though. The alternative is that all 48 other Democratic senators are in total agreement on wanting good things, and it's just a complete coincidence that there are exactly enough conservative Dems to impede their agenda. Not saying that that's definitely untrue, but I think it would be foolish to just assume that Sinema is completely making poo poo up. Based on what? Her approval ratings are rock bottom and she's already being set up to get primaried by Ruben Gallego. Nothing about what she's done seems to have worked for her or accomplished anything.
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Pure conjecture, though mainly I just don't find the idea of her being an idiot to be a very satisfying explanation. Her actions might not make sense in terms of maintaining a career in politics, but that might not be what she wants. There's plenty of grift to be had as a former senator, especially if she goes for the "the Democrats are just too woke for me now" angle.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:CBP is an infamously lovely organization to the extent that Trump and his people recognized they could weaponize it for dirty tricks, because it often attracts people chuddy enough that they are eager to become brownshirts and secret police: https://www.yahoo.com/news/operation-whistle-pig-inside-the-secret-cbp-unit-with-no-rules-that-investigates-americans-100000147.html This is why people talk about how you have to defund the police. You cannot reform them. At best, you need to smash their unions just to start.
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