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Dabir posted:I've been doing some exam invigilation as part of my job, and on top of the stuff that's part of the job one of the things I've had my eyes open for is possible signs of ADHD for exactly that reason, I figure if I can mention something to one of the teachers and get the wheels in motion for them while they still have their school to back them up, it could save a lot of grief for them in the long run. I don't have any formal training, but I'm pretty sure I have it, and I'm basically looking out for things that remind me of me. Things like, being incredibly easily distracted, or they've finished their exam and having nothing else to do is visibly painful for them. Or, to give a more specific example, when everyone else is managing to keep their desk perfectly well organised, there'll be one kid who can't seem to get their poo poo in shape. When I see things like that, I just quietly mention to a teacher, "hey, I don't know if that kid has been diagnosed with ADHD, but it might be worth looking into, because I've noticed that <reason> and that makes me think there might be something going on." Who knows, could be that they immediately forget and nothing gets done, but at least I tried. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that whilst you have your heart in the right place people with no formal training who think they may have a thing probably shouldn't be making calls like that
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Strange shenanigans going on https://twitter.com/AliBunkallSKY/status/1592092304587751425
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re: ADHD & ASD - I've been diagnosed with ADHD (Psychiatry UK, Right to Choose) and started meds about 6 months ago now, and I can't believe the difference it's made to my life tbh. I don't "feel" particularly different but in terms of remembering things and organising myself it's made a world of difference. I'm basically a slightly calmer, more capable version of myself. I do also potentially consider myself to be on the milder end of the ASD spectrum but I haven't sought an assessment for that particularly because if diagnosed there's nothing that I can really do about it, while with ADHD there are meds etc. I think the psych did make some notes about things like "kept eye contact, elaborated spontaneously when talking" etc so perhaps they were screening for ASD as well as ADHD when I had my appointment, but as a teenager I remember having to really work at both of those things, and not feeling like I really understood how socialising worked or why I didn't seem to understand it as intuitively as everyone else. Either way, I'm happy to consider myself possibly mildly autistic and to view myself through that lens in terms of understanding why I might feel a certain way or not grasp some things that should be obvious to me. I did read the other day that if you have one or the other, you've got a very high chance of the other. Something like 50-80% of people with ASD have ADHD as well, and about 40% the other way around or something. Also on the gender identity front: I also don't particularly "feel like a guy", but not in a way that feels constricting or negative in terms of being one physically or anything. I'm just completely indifferent to my sex & gender, and don't really consider myself a "manly" man. While I'm massively supportive of trans rights and so on, I've always felt that I don't really understand being trans or genderfluid or similar, because my sex and gender identity just isn't something I feel anything about, so I don't really have any concept of what it would be like to feel at odds with it.
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smellmycheese posted:Strange shenanigans going on Maybe it was one of those fake distress emails 'im on holiday and been mugged and everything has been taken send £1000 immediately'
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Surprise T Rex posted:
Just to note those kind of observations, or questions probing for them, or the way you felt when you were young don't have to be autism related (even though they'd be the same questions). They could just as easily been down to a lack of, specific type of socialisation in childhood because of parenting/poverty or just blind luck etc
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I'm sometimes taken aback at the incidence (i.e. new diagnoses, not new cases) of adult ADHD/ASD but then I realise it's a combo of (1) the social circles I move in, being an online, socially awkward neurotypical, (2) people being more informed and stuff like the "extreme male brain" theory of autism receding, and (3) probably lockdowns and COVID making people realise how much they were masking in "normal" life. I'm spotting an amazing opportunity for a grift here, if I develop a theory that the COVID vaccine and/or lockdowns cause late-onset autism do you think I can score a supermodel wife?
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You might score an "extreme male brain" instead. Failed Imagineer posted:Ricin, novochok, VX, or something new?
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Guavanaut posted:Guy's 72, Russian, and an on-off UN representative since the Soviet Union in the 70s, I'd go with the simpler explanation of alcoholic cardiomyopathy. Yeah fair, I also haven't seen any evidence of him deviating from the Putin orthodoxy that would mark hon as a scapegoat. I just wanted a sensationalist turn in today's episode of News
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yeah fair, I also haven't seen any evidence of him deviating from the Putin orthodoxy that would mark hon as a scapegoat. I just wanted a sensationalist turn in today's episode of News Yeah, we're overdue the Prime Minister bring overthrown by his MPs.
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Yeah, reminder the series finale of Britain begins on Thursday. Get your
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she luvs youforkboy84 posted:Yeah
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Not strictly UK-related but certainly thread-related to be honest I just want everyone to have fun - in the latest episode of The New Adventures Of The World's Baldest Man, he's now in a furious argument with the ex-catering manager (resigned) over the precise price of employee lunches.
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Only Kindness posted:she luvs you AWW YEYEYEYEYEYEYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyI4BXlNCmQ
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Surprise T Rex posted:re: ADHD & ASD - I've been diagnosed with ADHD (Psychiatry UK, Right to Choose) and started meds about 6 months ago now, and I can't believe the difference it's made to my life tbh. I don't "feel" particularly different but in terms of remembering things and organising myself it's made a world of difference. I'm basically a slightly calmer, more capable version of myself. I do also potentially consider myself to be on the milder end of the ASD spectrum but I haven't sought an assessment for that particularly because if diagnosed there's nothing that I can really do about it, while with ADHD there are meds etc. I think we might be quite similar people in some ways:) I haven't had any big changes in my life since I got medicated. Same (lovely) job, my room is still a mess. But I'm on a much more even keel. Like - the ship is steadier. Life is not so chaotic and tempestuous. Most of the time! As I've mentioned elsewhere I think, I'm AFAB and the week before my period is Emotion City where my meds don't work quite as well. I kind of consider myself a non-binary woman. The label 'woman' and female pronouns and my body in general are fine with me, but I don't feel perhaps - as *much* attached to it all as I think some people are. I've always dressed pretty whatever. I guess gender identity has some 'spectrumish' aspects too and you can fall anywhere along a continuum. But I don't know a lot about it. I just know people are who they say they are as far as I'm concerned and I will fight anyone who tries to get in the way of that. e:I used that faceapp thing to see what I'd look like as a fella and I quite liked it.
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I wish I could dress pretty and not look like a balding hunchback in a cloth sack. That's probably all in my head though. Man I need to get back on the fitness wagon. Its starting to wane and I need to fit into my christmas party goth clothes I spent loads of money on =( In other news, lol Braverman patrol boats. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63615653.amp
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Surprise T Rex posted:Also on the gender identity front: I also don't particularly "feel like a guy", but not in a way that feels constricting or negative in terms of being one physically or anything. I'm just completely indifferent to my sex & gender, and don't really consider myself a "manly" man. While I'm massively supportive of trans rights and so on, I've always felt that I don't really understand being trans or genderfluid or similar, because my sex and gender identity just isn't something I feel anything about, so I don't really have any concept of what it would be like to feel at odds with it. This reminds me of maths youtuber Vi Hart who made a video about her similar feelings about gender, ie being so apathetic about gender as it applied to herself thst she initially struggled to understand how anyone else could care about it so much. I imagine this kind of gender apathy is more common than people realise, I'd imagine it'd be difficult to even try to measure currently
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Appreciated John Oliver last night spending his entire show ripping on the Royals, their crucial role in the slave trade and colonialism, Mau Mau rebellion etc., and their continued massive obscene revenues. Nothing new to anyone here but probably fairly new information to most American viewers (whole ep is on YT)
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OwlFancier posted:I have found it helpful to try and cultivate the same kind of depressive arrogance but outside of depressive episodes. It works surprisingly well, a quiet assurance that you know yourself far better than anybody else and thus it really doesn't matter what other people think (usually employed to convince yourself you're a useless piece of poo poo regardless of any positive reinforcement, but surprisingly close to helpful self confidence if you can apply it more generally) I've pretty much stopped talking about my diagnoses (ADHD and high functioning autism primarily). People tend to be like "you need to make me understand how this stuff affects your abilities" and then "well let's focus on what you're to do to prevent this stuff affecting anyone around you", and then when I'm determined to have failed in that respect, it's back to treating me with exhaustion and contempt. It saves a lot of time to just let people assume that I'm lazy or uninterested or whatever. It's annoying, but most people seem to regard mental issues as moral failings. It's extremely rare for me not to regret having brought up my disabilities in response to some perceived failing on my part, it all comes back to "that's on you" pretty much.
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Just look at these nerds, https://twitter.com/xrbham/status/1592068570812674049?s=20&t=lnFUGGzlOsZqDyPLYpY5eA edit: https://twitter.com/xrbham/status/1592132105336918018?s=20&t=lnFUGGzlOsZqDyPLYpY5eA 
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Failed Imagineer posted:Appreciated John Oliver last night spending his entire show ripping on the Royals, their crucial role in the slave trade and colonialism, Mau Mau rebellion etc., and their continued massive obscene revenues. Nothing new to anyone here but probably fairly new information to most American viewers (whole ep is on YT) Not yet, Sky Atlantic have the rights in the UK so it airs here on a Monday and gets unlocked on YouTube tomorrow.
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Tesseraction posted:Not yet, Sky Atlantic have the rights in the UK so it airs here on a Monday and gets unlocked on YouTube tomorrow. Yeah I just watched it on a  YT upload. Oliver also commented at both the start and end of the ep that it might be censored in the UK, since his previous comments about the Queen were cut out a few weeks back. I think that was just the post - Operation London Bridge mania tbh , but what do I know
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That's a good point. I should probably go back and... acquire... the uncensored version to see what was cut.
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Surprise T Rex posted:I do also potentially consider myself to be on the milder end of the ASD spectrum but I haven't sought an assessment for that particularly because if diagnosed there's nothing that I can really do about it, while with ADHD there are meds etc. It's like the difference between someone just dumping weights on you at the gym, and someone going "OK, we'll be doing a 10 minute routine tomorrow; make sure you warm up, hydrate enough, bring protein, is your gear comfortable" etc. One is likely to go wrong and leave you in recovery for a while, the other is more likely to go off without a hitch. At least that's how I view it. Surprise T Rex posted:I did read the other day that if you have one or the other, you've got a very high chance of the other. Something like 50-80% of people with ASD have ADHD as well, and about 40% the other way around or something. Surprise T Rex posted:Also on the gender identity front: I also don't particularly "feel like a guy", but not in a way that feels constricting or negative in terms of being one physically or anything. I'm just completely indifferent to my sex & gender, and don't really consider myself a "manly" man. While I'm massively supportive of trans rights and so on, I've always felt that I don't really understand being trans or genderfluid or similar, because my sex and gender identity just isn't something I feel anything about, so I don't really have any concept of what it would be like to feel at odds with it. You have Non Binary, which is generally seen as accepting that the general public have a gender binary, and you don't exist at either polarity. This can be 50-50, 75% 2/3, but generally it seems to be accepting that there is a male / female dichotomy and you're somewhere between the two. Gender neutral is more sort of looking at the gender binary and going 'no thanks.' Like opting out of the gender question entirely. This is me. If there's anything people are thinking "You're a guy, you'd like this," then I'll probably opt out of it, thanks. I don't want to look female or male. If I could look completely androgynous, and not in the fetishised way, that'd be great to have everyone not know (and ideally not care either). There are other terms - Autigender is an odd one that's been popping up on twitter a lot, which is a term for how a higher proportion of autistic people report feeling disconnected from their gender, in the same way some autistic people report feeling disconnected from their emotions. Not sure how I feel about the aesthetics of the word, and there's some crossover with agender, but it's an interesting idea. Again though, it's really down to whatever label the person feels more comfortable with and how that manifests for them. Like with the arguments about bisexual vs pansexual, a lot of the discussions online revolve around someone trying to 'um actually' the strict definition of the terms involved, when any first year english student can run you through the many ways the 'precise definitions' of words change over time.
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Guavanaut posted:relevant: The Pac-Man ghosts do have gender, though. Shadow, Speedy, Bashful and Pokey are male, Sue from Ms Pac-Man is female. (Speedy is also canonically gay and has a crush on Pac-Man.)
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Jedit posted:The Pac-Man ghosts do have gender, though. Shadow, Speedy, Bashful and Pokey are male, Sue from Ms Pac-Man is female. (Speedy is also canonically gay and has a crush on Pac-Man.) What the gently caress I thought their names were Inky, Blinky, Pinky and Clyde.
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sebzilla posted:What the gently caress I thought their names were Inky, Blinky, Pinky and Clyde. Oh huh, seems the rhyming ones are English nicknames while those are the official names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_(Pac-Man)#Known_ghosts
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Gender neutral is more sort of looking at the gender binary and going 'no thanks.' Like opting out of the gender question entirely. This is me. If there's anything people are thinking "You're a guy, you'd like this," then I'll probably opt out of it, thanks. This is me except I naturally look very masculine and that doesn't really bother me, but the idea of doing "man things" certainly does. All the men in my family died and I grew up entirely around women who had very poor experiences with all the men in their lives, and also could do everything because normal people should be able to do everything, they didn't get men to do things for them cos there weren't any or they didn't have the money. So that's just what normal people are and do. "man things" are abusing your wife and being an emotionally dysfunctional moron, because all the women I know do everything except that themselves so that demonstrably is the only thing that's gendered. There was an idea in a video essay (I think khadija mbowe on youtube but I think it's come up in a few places) that a lot of the popular concept of femininity is rooted in aristocracy, where you can afford to have a lady sitting around moping out the window and doing cross stitch and poo poo, and that for the working class it doesn't really work because working class women have to do everything. And I think that tracks pretty well. But (admittedly second hand) it does feel like there is a much more prevalent idea that men regardless of class don't have to do some things, to the detriment of their partners.
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Beau of the Fifth Column has a pretty good video that briefly discusses masculinity in general, then dives into three differing examples of masculine role models for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHZ9VYJARL4
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