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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Russia is close to pulling off a successful war and it’s making people really upset
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Nov 15, 2022 17:36
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Nov 15, 2022 17:38
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Nov 15, 2022 17:40
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euphronius posted:Russia is close to pulling off a successful war and it’s making people really upset Russia is done Ardennes has issued a correction as of 17:43 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 17:41
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laughs IRAishly
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Nov 15, 2022 17:43
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if you want peace maybe negotiate idk
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Nov 15, 2022 17:49
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euphronius posted:if you want peace maybe negotiate idk Ukraine to the Urals, final offer
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Nov 15, 2022 17:50
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Ardennes posted:Russia is done Other than threatening to nuke people, I think they've pretty much shown their hand when it comes to national defense. And it is not pretty. Anyone neighboring Russia not already part of NATO at this point is probably at least side eyeing joining NATO
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Nov 15, 2022 17:50
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euphronius posted:Russia is close to pulling off a successful war and it’s making people really upset The Russians have hosed it from a height. But I do think they have decided that its going to be a protracted conflict. What I really wonder about is what kind of shape the separatists are in? They have provided the political power in the conflict, and we only hear about russia and russians, not eastern Ukrainians. I mean, they are Russians now since the vote, but have all the hardliners from the Donbass etc died in the fighting already? What of their children and relatives? Open warfare followed by tit for tat violence can fuel a conflict indefinitely.
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Nov 15, 2022 17:50
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it’s tough to say without seeing how much land Ukraine is about to give up.
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Nov 15, 2022 17:51
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Hadlock posted:Other than threatening to nuke people, I think they've pretty much shown their hand when it comes to national defense. And it is not pretty. completely done, no hope of coming back, Slava 100%
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Nov 15, 2022 17:51
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Ardennes posted:completely done, no hope of coming back, Slava 100% babe, new al-saqr just dropped
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Nov 15, 2022 17:52
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Southpaugh posted:The Russians have hosed it from a height. But I do think they have decided that its going to be a protracted conflict. What I really wonder about is what kind of shape the separatists are in? They have provided the political power in the conflict, and we only hear about russia and russians, not eastern Ukrainians. I mean, they are Russians now since the vote, but have all the hardliners from the Donbass etc died in the fighting already? What of their children and relatives? Open warfare followed by tit for tat violence can fuel a conflict indefinitely.
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Nov 15, 2022 17:53
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russia and ukraine need to come to the $10000 table
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Nov 15, 2022 17:53
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Ardennes posted:completely done, no hope of coming back, Slava 100% ardennes finally broke
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Nov 15, 2022 17:54
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Man, you guys are too easy to get , wtf
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Nov 15, 2022 17:56
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If you want to know about Ukrainian separatists you can just read what they post. Former DNR militia that might have fought with Girkin I think https://t.me/s/donrf22 Odessa doctor that did terrorist attacks against Kiev regime https://t.me/s/ghost_of_novorossia Murz Russian nazbol, sergeant in LNR militia mostly working on radio communications and field medicine? https://t.me/wehearfromyanina
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Nov 15, 2022 17:58
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mlmp08 posted:Yeesh. It's very funny how carefully you've avoided the realities of war funding. Nowhere in your assessment is the concept that a state at war may need to buy weapons or pay soldiers or that those expenses could come from other areas (like infrastructure and agriculture) in the form of debt. On top of all that is working backwards from the premise that Vietnam was free to choose whatever it wanted to rather than facing coercion by a unilateral trade bloc. Cpt_Obvious has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 17:59
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Russian telegram understands the military problem but unless this has leaked into the public sphere, doesn’t solve politicians being unwilling to do it so plus ca change. “Troops are needed. Larger maneuvers are needed. Area denial and logistics disruption is needed. Encircle, suffocate, force surrender. For that, troops are required. That's it. It's rather simple. Russia needs infantry. Not Internet speculation about how easy it is to destroy clearly difficult-to-destroy engineering marvels.”
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Nov 15, 2022 18:03
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Ardennes posted:completely done, no hope of coming back, Slava 100% Ardennes... thank you for finally seeing the light... I am always the shoulder you can cry on....
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Nov 15, 2022 18:05
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Al-Saqr posted:Ardennes... thank you for finally seeing the light... I am always the shoulder you can cry on.... Ah drat I forgot to put the country I was talking about in the post
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Nov 15, 2022 18:10
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Well it is a politician’s war, and ultimately it is going to come down to who gets a little more leverage down the line (or no one does).
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Nov 15, 2022 18:10
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Ardennes posted:Ah drat I forgot to put the country I was talking about in the post weren’t you talking about Russia being done?
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Nov 15, 2022 18:11
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i'm worried about ardennes now 
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Nov 15, 2022 18:12
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redneck nazgul posted:i'm worried about ardennes now Slaba America
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Nov 15, 2022 18:13
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https://twitter.com/LunaOi_VN/status/1470759874766147585 luna oi links to a voa vietnamese article to encourage people to learn more about vietnamese debt. in the article it says (machine translated) quote:AP news agency quoted dâgn information of the US Financial Institution for the book, in 145 million dollars in 76 million dollars is the principal of loans for agriculture, transportation, factories… which was the loan of Saigon to Washington's loan when the statistic ended the Southern Competition in 1975 and the remaining 70 million dollars was profit for 24 years. US officials said no loan was used to fund military operations in the South. now its from voa, which, lol, but presumably if it wasn't true she would have linked to something else? just my opinion.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:13
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Pistol_Pete posted:Sorry, this is the Vietnam thread now. So bloodthirsty nationalists mad the invaders aren't bombing every adjacent country despite that inevitably starting a nuclear war is perfectly on topic
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Nov 15, 2022 18:16
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quote:Due to current events, it's difficult to escape comparisons to Ukraine, and in the sense of "prevent a bordering nation from falling into the sphere-of-influence of another large rival", China was far more successful at it with respect to Vietnam (with the USSR as the rival), than Russia seemingly has been with Ukraine (with US/NATO as the rival). As well, relations between Vietnam and China have grown warmer since, whereas from what we can tell from Europe, Ukraine is only going to become more and more hostile to Russia over time. That said, it did take the better part of a decade for China to get there, so who knows how this comparison will play out over the next decade.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:19
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Here's a DNR train engineer turned aid worker: https://t.me/s/lisenko1972 https://www.youtube.com/user/lisenko1000
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Nov 15, 2022 18:22
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euphronius posted:if you want peace maybe negotiate idk Agreed Russia must unconditionally surrender
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Nov 15, 2022 18:26
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that’s not negotiating
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Nov 15, 2022 18:27
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What Ukraine wants doesn't matter anymore. They had a choice to give in to Russian demands so that they'd still have some freedom left in other areas. Now they set themselves on a road they can't turn back from. Now it's only about what US and Russia want, Ukraine will only get what either side decides to give them if anything at all.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:27
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Ardennes posted:Well it is a politician’s war, and ultimately it is going to come down to who gets a little more leverage down the line (or no one does). It’s a bit weird because the commissariat realizes that but seems split on if that’s fine or not “These two tragic fates of the Sixth Army illustrate the salient issue today: how do we parse the difference between military and political decision making? More specifically, to what do we attribute the shocking Russian decision to withdraw from the west bank of the Dnieper in Kherson oblast, after annexing it just a few months ago?” “I would like to parse through this issue. First off, one cannot deny that the withdrawal is politically a significant humiliation for Russia. The question becomes, however, whether this sacrifice was necessary on military or political grounds, and what it may signify about the future course of the conflict.” https://bigserge.substack.com/p/surovkins-difficult-choice “As I see it, the withdrawal from west bank Kherson must be driven by one of the four following possibilities: 1 The Ukrainian Army has defeated the Russian Army on the west bank and driven it back across the river. 2 Russia is setting a trap in Kherson. 3 A secret peace agreement (or at least ceasefire) has been negotiated which includes giving Kherson back to Ukraine. 4 Russia has made a politically embarrassing but militarily prudent operational choice” They don’t seem to get that politics came first, and is driving option 4, possibly option 3 as they seek a non-military solution. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 18:30 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 18:28
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new UN human rights office statement on findings about torture and treatment of prisoners by both russia and ukraine: https://ukraine.un.org/en/207332-more-8-months-russias-armed-attack-ukraine-and-ensuing-escalation-hostilities-un-reports needless to say, there's some pretty graphic descriptions of torture in here, so warning for that. both russia and ukraine are torturing people brutally, and there are credible reports of both torture leading to death (by the Russians) and summary executions of prisoners (by the Ukrainians).
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Nov 15, 2022 18:28
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speng31b posted:new UN human rights office statement on findings about torture and treatment of prisoners by both russia and ukraine: russia and ukraine tortured some folks
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Nov 15, 2022 18:31
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https://twitter.com/business/status/1592227644615131136
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Nov 15, 2022 18:34
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bedpan posted:russia and ukraine tortured some folks Barack UKRAINE Obama
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Nov 15, 2022 18:35
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Frosted Flake posted:It’s a bit weird because the commissariat realizes that but seems split on if that’s fine or not I would say mostly 4, the Russians held it until the costs came too high. Admittedly, I think they could have taken more measures to drag it out but it was clearly a pre made political decision as far as the rest of the war. The “weird tricks” have been rooted in a constant fit for tat but at the same time, we haven’t seen true hard fighting since Mariupol. Admittedly, I do think it makes sense the US would want to push negotiations now since they have a little more leverage but at the same time as long as Russia has for missiles and drones, then it is going to use them. It is why I would assume pressuring Iran and its arms has got to be in the list.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:38
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Lostconfused posted:Hahahaha the race scientists are at it again Deeply strange, as the modern Ukrainian state would surely agree - true Ukrainians wouldn't be found in those Soviet graves. They would be in the other ones.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Barack UKRAINE Obama russia and ukraine torturing people to death and executing prisoners is surely just a regrettable action of some misguided, low-level enlisted personnel and not deliberate policy articulated and implemented by those with command and control
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Nov 15, 2022 18:39
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