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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Frosted Flake posted:They don’t seem to get that politics came first, and is driving option 4, possibly option 3 as they seek a non-military solution.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:39
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Lostconfused posted:This the main and only weird thing about this conflict. Everyone has an idea of what US and Kiev want, nobody knows what the people in Kremlin are thinking. what they are thinking? the people in the Kremlin are liberals, they don't think
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Nov 15, 2022 18:40
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Ardennes posted:Anyway, I took the statement as more figurative, they had to pay for American imperialism even if explosives weren’t not on the invoice. Seeing you cuss is like seeing my 2nd grade teacher, or my kindly grampa cuss.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:43
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Well they did another infrastructure strike overnight that did a lot of damage but it feels like these are coercive diplomacy rather than serious attempts to knock Ukraine out of the war
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Nov 15, 2022 18:44
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“We are still talking about a SMO. And it is indeed still a SMO. The SMO has sufficient forces, resources and equipment allocated to fulfil the political objectives. But not in a head-on battle. Which is not the goal at all. Yes, I’m sure, Russia won’t hesitate to kill the whole Ukrainian able-bodied population on the battlefield. If the Americans keeps sustaining the Ukrainian resistance, maybe this is, what eventually will materialize. But it is NOT the objective. The objective is to spare as many soldiers as possible. The conquered Ukraine will need to be incorporated back into the Russian sphere. Every additional killed Ukrainian is one more problem, that will express itself in hate for maybe three generations of Ukrainians. Yes, Russia plans long-term. No one assumes, that after the war everyone will love Russians in (middle and western Ukraine). Russia keeps on functioning economically, nearly, as there is no war. Is say, nearly. It keeps on integrating itself in the new emerging world order. Not only integrating but building as a main actor. Had Russia chosen a full declaration of war and doctrinal warfare, it would need to stop most of its international trade relations and switch to wartime economy, to sustain a totally different dimension of logistics and troop accumulation, training and preparing of new and reserve formations in the rear. That’s why I assume, that, even after the partial mobilization, the war will be conducted as a SMO, unless the General Staff comes up with an assessment, that the political objectives can’t be achieved any longer in the format of a SMO. And this should be avoided by any means. If Russia transform its economy to sustain a highly mobile and supplied, doctrinal Russian army, then I’m not sure what geopolitical implications this could bring. At least some mobilizations waves throughout Europe as well. This should NOT happen for many reasons. For the time being, Russia will further on need to deal with scarce resources. Even though there is a political committee established, to support the war efforts, it is not the same as in WW2. It has very tight restrictions, to shield off the economy as much as affordable. The highest scarcity in resources is in the troops. The Generals can’t simply order large scale operations, where you need necessarily to calculate with a huge percentage of losses. For example, if you want to storm quickly a highly protected city with a 3:1 advantage (this is totally made up, since there are so many factors not considered) you can calculate with a casualty rate of 30%. This is impossible in the format of the SMO.” Chess and its consequences have been a disaster for all mankind
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Nov 15, 2022 18:46
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https://twitter.com/Iamthisnotthat1/status/1592542817360150528 so the nafos are really mad that the UN human rights office said the Ukrainians might have done some bad things too speng31b posted:new UN human rights office statement on findings about torture and treatment of prisoners by both russia and ukraine:
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Nov 15, 2022 18:49
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Crymetimeboys posted:Does Ukraine have a historical grudge against Vietnam too? Absolutely. They defeated the US, Ukraine's closest ally.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:51
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https://twitter.com/Branco28615401/status/1592483611458306048 lol
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Nov 15, 2022 18:52
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Frosted Flake posted:Well they did another infrastructure strike overnight that did a lot of damage but it feels like these are coercive diplomacy rather than serious attempts to knock Ukraine out of the war Admittedly, I don’t know what a strike to fully knock the Ukrainians would look like within reason. I guess you could try to max their political objectives as soon as possible but I do think supply isn’t necessarily infinite as far as drones/precision munition. That said, I think both sides are very far from seeing anywhere eye to eye so it is just going to drag on.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:54
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Frosted Flake posted:Well they did another infrastructure strike overnight that did a lot of damage but it feels like these are coercive diplomacy rather than serious attempts to knock Ukraine out of the war Donrf posted:There are two versions of why this happened today. It was well done by the way, there was only one civilian casualty, and that was either an intercepted missile or a SAM. Donrf posted:And the outcome is interesting...extinguished for a long time. After the last time it was barely breathing, now...But this is far from the end of the story. Only the middle of the story. And which version is correct time will tell
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Nov 15, 2022 18:56
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Ardennes posted:Admittedly, I don’t know what a strike to fully knock the Ukrainians would look like within reason. I guess you could try to max their political objectives as soon as possible but I do think supply isn’t necessarily infinite as far as drones/precision munition. the amount of damage that would need to be inflicted on population centers to bring the war to a close through infrastructure attacks is pretty hard to imagine.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:56
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Flag twitter demands to defund the UNHRC
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Nov 15, 2022 19:08
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speng31b posted:the amount of damage that would need to be inflicted on population centers to bring the war to a close through infrastructure attacks is pretty hard to imagine. I mean I guess I could see it but it would be pretty much driving most of the population out of the country and creating such a circumstance that the AFU’s ability to fight would be diminished etc. It couldn’t happen over night. I long suspected the ultimate deciding factor from the beginning would be attempt to “break” the will of the Ukrainian population but I don’t think that is close to happening, such an undertaking would likely result in the total destruction of the country. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 19:15 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 19:09
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You can see whatever you want when looking at tealeaves.Ꙃаставный posted:Today. Naryshkin flies to Iran after discussing nuclear issues with the Americans in Turkey. Lavrov leaves the G20 summit in Bali prematurely. Peskov unequivocally calls Kherson the capital of Russia's Kherson Oblast and claims that a decision on the grain deal has not yet been announced. Patrushev unequivocally names the denazification of Ukraine as one of the NWO's goals, and promises that it will be achieved. Putin names Mariupol and Melitopol Cities of Military Glory. Afterwards, a massive missile attack is launched on Ukraine.
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Nov 15, 2022 19:09
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Lostconfused posted:You can see whatever you want when looking at tealeaves. lol russia is just lando on cloud city at this point
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Nov 15, 2022 19:13
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Ardennes posted:It will likely result just in the total destruction of the country.
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Nov 15, 2022 19:14
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I hope this turns out to be a false rumor. https://twitter.com/samramani2/status/1592583150081036288?s=46&t=fzvHTpV91IDEBBXs__Aw4w
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Nov 15, 2022 19:29
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what are they gonna do about it that they are not already doing? i'm pretty sure nato doesn't want to go to full nuclear war and thats pretty much the only escalation that is left
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Nov 15, 2022 19:32
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mlmp08 posted:I hope this turns out to be a false rumor. https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1592581319758053376 lol the replies are so psychotic. screaming for article 5. hell yeah!
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Nov 15, 2022 19:33
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Time to set fire to the atmosphere to own the Russkies
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Nov 15, 2022 19:34
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Rutibex posted:what are they gonna do about it that they are not already doing? i'm pretty sure nato doesn't want to go to full nuclear war and thats pretty much the only escalation that is left Poland should be happy, this is the war they've been hooting and hollering for.
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Nov 15, 2022 19:34
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as credible as these sources are, horny for nuclear death to all, it seems more likely it's a grain elevator explosion. apparently these are...somewhat common? https://knobelsdorffenterprises.com/grain-elevator-explosions-what-are-they-and-how-to-prevent-them/
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Nov 15, 2022 19:35
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Rutibex posted:what are they gonna do about it that they are not already doing? i'm pretty sure nato doesn't want to go to full nuclear war and thats pretty much the only escalation that is left Eh, Poland, NATO, and Russia all have levers that would suck and inflict hardship or death on more people without going to nuclear war.
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Nov 15, 2022 19:35
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Article V doesn't mean what people think it means. A stray munition accidentally landing in your territory doesn't mean you're suddenly at fullscale war, and if Poland tried to suggest it obligated everyone in that way they'd be told to shut the gently caress up.
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Nov 15, 2022 19:35
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https://twitter.com/CheneyStan/status/1592583875565613056
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Nov 15, 2022 19:36
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It's incredible how many people are praying to be incinerated in a nuclear holocaust
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Nov 15, 2022 19:37
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speng31b posted:https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1592581319758053376 this got me looking for pyramids in Poland and sure enough Ancient pyramids older than Egypt's found in POLAND
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Nov 15, 2022 19:37
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mlmp08 posted:I hope this turns out to be a false rumor. seems true insofar as the PM convening an emergency meeting https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1592585156384415744 https://twitter.com/TOPTVPINFO/status/1592583208448581632 quote:#TVPInfo | @PremierRP
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Nov 15, 2022 19:38
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yeah the americans aren't going to allow some off-target missile to cause ww3, even assuming that the poles (who have actually been pretty cagey about this whole affair) want to have a go
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Nov 15, 2022 19:39
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:Article V doesn't mean what people think it means. A stray munition accidentally landing in your territory doesn't mean you're suddenly at fullscale war, and if Poland tried to suggest it obligated everyone in that way they'd be told to shut the gently caress up. Yeah.
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speng31b posted:as credible as these sources are, horny for nuclear death to all, it seems more likely it's a grain elevator explosion. apparently these are...somewhat common? Grain elevators are basically big ol bombs because moving the grain produces tons of dust that can ignite in a flash from a cigarette or even just a hot piece of metal.
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Nov 15, 2022 19:40
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i mean this IS Poland we're talking about here - are we sure they didn't just draw their border in the wrong spot because they were holding the map upside down?
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Nov 15, 2022 19:40
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Poland should be happy, this is the war they've been hooting and hollering for. a genie appears to a Pole and grants him one wish. The Pole immediately wishes for a horde of Mongols to invade Poland and raze the country to the ground. The genie is shocked and asks the Pole why he hates his country so much. The Pole responds that he loves his country, he just knows the Mongols would have to go through Russia first
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Nov 15, 2022 19:41
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https://twitter.com/RedPrecariat/status/1592566651152728067 time for more tea leaf reading
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Nov 15, 2022 19:42
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Calibanibal posted:Submarines don't exist. Have you ever seen one? 
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Nov 15, 2022 19:43
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:It's incredible how many people are praying to be incinerated in a nuclear holocaust They've been telling us it would happen since at least first grade some of us are tired of waiting
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Nov 15, 2022 19:44
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nevermind, should've refreshed
heel turn has issued a correction as of 19:47 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 19:44
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Can't wait for Poland to let everyone down and not try to end the world over a grain silo.
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Nov 15, 2022 19:46
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lol just do a google maps search for Przewodów, it's not near anything. no way this was a missile that just happened to hit a highly explosive-prone agricultural thing in the middle of nowhere
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Nov 15, 2022 19:48
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when i see a grain elevator explode i usually think russian missiles and not that thing grain elevators do
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