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I would have thought they would check dental records rather than DNA for that reason. I can believe that non urgent DNA tests have a very long lead time but I would have thought the police would want to hurry it along a bit and so would use another method if they aren't suspecting foul play.
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^^^ "debate" There it is.
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I for one am tired of debate, I have already figured it out and I don't see why I should have to wait for everyone else to catch up.
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If you ever wanted an article that sums up the state of society in one go, here, have it: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/15/major-investor-calls-on-google-owner-to-aggressively-cut-staff-and-pay Nevermind eating the rich, you'll get prions. Just let them rot in a hole somewhere.
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lmao at a hedge fund demanding that businesses get rid of their cash on hand, no you can't have money to buy things, that reduces your dependency on hedge fund investments.
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"tank your company so we can short it with the billions we made off your company. Not too much though, right around our buy price target kthx" "What about your workers? I don't give a poo poo."
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Apraxin posted:Question for the thread, unfortunately quite a grim one: drat, that's grim. Sympathies. Spoilered in case anyone doesn't want to read about death: My best friend's husband died unexpectedly at the beginning of the year (collapsed in their house, already dead when he hit the floor) and it took a couple of months for the coroner to certify his death wasn't dodgy and release his body for the funeral. So yeah, I can see 3 months as not unreasonable, since I daresay they'll have to be doing all the making sure it was a natural death stuff as well as the ID.
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Runcible Cat posted:drat, that's grim. Sympathies. Spoilered in case anyone doesn't want to read about death: Close friend of mine, same thing happened to her husband, felt unwell all day and died suddenly and unexpectedly the same evening 64y.o. - took several months for the coroner to certify his death.
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Diet Crack posted:"What about your workers? I don't give a poo poo." Combining the face eating leopards / imperial core / me finding out memes to create a marxist grand slam of "I never expected capitalism's enless march of worker exploitation to breach the safety of MY middle class!"
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Lib dems have gone full terf. Is it an accident or deliberate that they made this announcement during Trans Awareness week, do you think
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Gwaint posted:Is it an accident or deliberate that they made this announcement during Trans Awareness week, do you think It's TERFs, always assume the worst
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Some stuff from a BBC article about the scottish gender reform billquote:The Conservatives' Russell Findlay also put forward a number of amendments which sought to prevent registered sex offenders from acquiring a gender recognition certificate. How often has it occurred that a male sex offender or someone in prison has gone on to legally change their gender and then re-offend under the guise of being female? Because this seems to be what the entire thing boils down to - men are going to pretend to be women in order to commit rape, but I've never seen any details on how often this has actually happened. The other aspect - prisons being full of men looking to exploit legal loopholes. Have any men changed their gender in prison and been moved to a female prison, presumably the implication being they go on to commit sexual violence there? I know a lot of people will use this argument as a screen for what they really feel, that trans people yuck them out or that it's fake, but if it's going to be endlessly repeated I'd like to know what the actual evidence is. roomtone fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Gwaint posted:Is it an accident or deliberate that they made this announcement during Trans Awareness week, do you think https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1592591261520764930 
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Bobby Deluxe posted:https://twitter.com/debarghya_das/status/1592214346289274880?t=Y_RKi7neGn061tGFODUjVQ&s=19 The industry is a lot bigger now though. Also seems it's mostly Internet commerce companies except for Intel and Netflix/Twitter/Meta, the latter of which did really badly lately.
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roomtone posted:Some stuff from a BBC article about the scottish gender reform bill As far as I am aware nobody? Like maybe one person somewhere has done it if you really looked, but when men want to do crimes against women, they just do them. There is no identifiable trend that I am aware of of that happening, it is witch panic nonsense dreamed up by people who are living in a fantasyland in their heads.
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roomtone posted:
 Probably don't want to be listening to anyone from Russia, Turkey, or Hungary on how to fix that though. Definitely not the USA. Maybe try Finland, The Netherlands, Norway, or Iceland. Better yet try evidence instead of reaction in general.
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If The Conservatives' Russell Findlay wants a solution to any problem that starts with "prisons are full" he'd do well taking advice from places where they are less full than promoting the rhetoric of places where they are more full.
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The issue with the claim of the ravening horde of cross dressing sex criminal men (there are a lot of issues with it) is that there isn't really any evidence for it, but the people promoting it don't see that as meaningful, because while a thing that isn't happening wouldn't have any evidence, neither would something being covered up by the wokey leftist UK conservative government and police at the behest of george soros, so who can say which is the case??? You can't really show evidence of things not happening, regrettably. Things not happen all the time and most people not notice.
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Technically there's a difference between overcrowding and incarceration rates. Also UK is weird in that it has some of the strictest penalties in Europe for major crimes but makes up for it by the use of alternative punishment for minor ones, though the latter is definitely a good thing.
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Private Speech posted:the use of alternative punishment for minor ones Problem is we seem to have racism and noncing as minor crimes (ironic given the latter) while protesting misogynistic policing or inconveniencing the rich seems to get you a time at Britmo.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63642174quote:Twirls substituted in some Heroes chocolate boxes U FUKN WOT M8 
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Did anyone check if Liberal Voice For Women is an official Lib Dem group? Their twitter has only been around about two years and they don't link to the Lib Dems homepage.
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Jedit posted:Did anyone check if Liberal Voice For Women is an official Lib Dem group? Their twitter has only been around about two years and they don't link to the Lib Dems homepage. Doesn't really matter as they were celebrating official policy
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Oh have some opulence with your chocco chat by the way. It's also criminal that Rolo and Munchies are not Heroes in their own right over these ghastly shite Cadbury products. https://www.cwsellors.co.uk/products/my-last-rolo-platinum-diamond-limited-edition-mlr-007  There's a gold edition too I'm the monthly installment plan
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roomtone posted:Some stuff from a BBC article about the scottish gender reform bill They usually cite "The Swedish Study" as academic proof that trans women are convicted at the same rate as cis men and not cis women, thus proving trans women have a primal genetic urge to commit sexual crimes, which the actual author disagrees with but that's easy to sweep under the rug. From there you can generally just gesticulate wildly at the very existence of trans people in prisons and let general prejudice carry your audience with you. I don't know of any actual figures on violence in prisons specifically broken down by being trans or not. One would assume that prisons would be wary of housing sexual predators with the types of people they have been known to victimise regardless of gender, but as we all know the police are very polite and woke and such and would never be mean to a prisoner e: oh btw fun fact, the most recent data i can find for trans women in women's prisons is "March/April 2019", when it was... 11 Angepain fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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I'm getting a bit nervous about all the messaging around the coming cuts. I mean I always thought Rishi was going to be austerity boy but it doesn't seem to be the best time for it right now, what with the inflation and cost of living crisis. I'll probably be fine unless I lose my job (which is possible; well hopefully not), but people who rely on benefits maybe not so much.
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It seems very obvious that they're going to freeze benefits (again) because the tabloids will lose their loving minds if UC goes up 10% in April. Labour will agree, saying it would be unfair to workers (who they only give a gently caress about when it's a chance to bash people on benefits)
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Runcible Cat posted:drat, that's grim. Sympathies. Spoilered in case anyone doesn't want to read about death: Jaeluni Asjil posted:
a) It was 20 years ago, presumably the procedures have changed b) He'd been a fit-as-an-ox teetotaller, so there was a lot of concern that it could either be a congenital condition (he had two younger siblings) or something contagious somehow, so the autopsy was done as a matter of urgency by a Home Office pathologist, which would have sped things along. (They still never found a cause of death, the finding at the inquest was basically 'he just died, somehow, but of natural, non-suspicious causes.') Cheerful topic, eh?
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Apraxin posted:Cheerful topic, eh? Courtesy spoiler for the same reason: A close friend of mine was living in a shared house (six people) at university and it was coming up to some exams so it wasn't unusual for people to hole up in their rooms revising. One housemate was doing that but it dragged on for a couple of days so they got worried and knocked on her door. No response. Door was locked. Eventually they broke it down and found her dead. Reason? Carbon Monoxide. The oval office of a landlord hadn't had their boiler serviced and checked in years. I have no idea how I would deal with that. The cost of sorting it after her death? £200. Nothing. I hope you and yours are doing as well as can be expected 
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Tesseraction posted:Doesn't really matter as they were celebrating official policy Looks like it's not a change in policy though, just s rewording. The TERF scum are celebrating that the definition no longer explicitly states that they're not allowed to deadname or misgender trans people, which to them means they're allowed to do it. https://twitter.com/turpywurpy/status/1592626444588703745?t=mjYt35AhmR-g4QA9SoNEAg&s=19
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Private Speech posted:Technically there's a difference between overcrowding and incarceration rates.  we're not actually too bad in terms of overcrowding  merely 'full and then a bit', rather than 'dangerously overcrowded', because we built so many prisons to keep all the bad people in 
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Jedit posted:Looks like it's not a change in policy though, just s rewording. The TERF scum are celebrating that the definition no longer explicitly states that they're not allowed to deadname or misgender trans people, which to them means they're allowed to do it. On the one hand, good On the other, lol those TERFs are definitely Lib Dems as the one thing that party is good at is lying to the public
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Only biological sex can win here! [big floppy dong graphic]
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https://twitter.com/eiecampaign/status/1592234781235888128 More anger and swearing in politics, please.
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Zarah's awesome and one of the only people giving me any hope for the future of the Labour Party. So watch as she gets ratfucked by keith
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Tesseraction posted:Zarah's awesome and one of the only people giving me any hope for the future of the Labour Party. Didn't they already try to get her deselected by saying she had little support (ie encouraging people to think they should vote for someone else) but she won every ward?
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