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welcome
Jun 28, 2002

rail slut

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

i hope sam wins a game

I hope he wins three.

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CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Groundskeeper Silly posted:

Are there any other examples to support the claim that "best-of" means something else with more than two teams/players?

Inductive reasoning, I suppose.

Think of it this way: a few people ITT have said that a best-of-seven series could go 3-0-0 and have a contestant take the tournament by winning four in a row to make it 3-4-0. So what about when the second contestant merely ties it and the third contestant stages the comeback? Now you're 3-3-4. I think we can all agree that such a tournament must not have been a best-of-seven series in the first place, right?

Edit: If the win condition is X games and there are N contestants, then the maximum number of games played, Y, will be Y = (X - 1) * N + 1. Solve this for X and you get X = (Y - 1)/N + 1 to get how many games you need to win when you know the number of contestants and the maximum number of games.

CPColin fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Nov 18, 2022

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

CPColin posted:

Inductive reasoning, I suppose.

Think of it this way: a few people ITT have said that a best-of-seven series could go 3-0-0 and have a contestant take the tournament by winning four in a row to make it 3-4-0. So what about when the second contestant merely ties it and the third contestant stages the comeback? Now you're 3-3-4. I think we can all agree that such a tournament must not have been a best-of-seven series in the first place, right?

I agree that wouldn't make it a best of seven series. Winning it 3-0-0 doesn't make it a best of seven series either. Hence why it's stupid to call it Best of 7 and could just be called First to Win 3. Because First to 3 makes sense because that's what it is.

Next time I'm hanging out with my friends I'm going to challenge them to a Best of 4 series and then declare victory if I win 2 games in a row.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
It’s always hilarious when there’s the tenor of what’s supposed to be some even debate about something going on, but in reality it’s literally just a single person against like a dozen and that single person cannot just take a step back from the “clearly it’s everyone else who is wrong” position.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

1glitch0 posted:

Next time I'm hanging out with my friends I'm going to challenge them to a Best of 4 series and then declare victory if I win 2 games in a row.

I hope you and the two friends you compete with have a good time!

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




welcome posted:

I hope he wins three.

same

Jokymi
Jan 31, 2003

Sweet Sassy Molassy
I gasped out loud at that final reveal. I thought for sure the tournament was about to end. Good for Sam!

Edit: After reading some discussion, Amy's bet makes more sense. She was making sure that Andrew wasn't able to get a 3rd win no matter what else happened.

Jokymi fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Nov 19, 2022

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
What a dramatic final. Good for Sam getting his first win.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Jokymi posted:

I gasped out loud at that final reveal. I thought for sure the tournament was about to end. Good for Sam!

Edit: After reading some discussion, Amy's bet makes more sense. She was making sure that Andrew wasn't able to get a 3rd win no matter what else happened.


Yeah, plus they've had some nasty questions and triple stumpers so being cautious probably makes more sense. Still a surpise though. Really cool that Sam got to win one especially after being down $2,800 at the start. Hell of a comeback.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Hell of a game today. I love Sam's "may I please see the final clue?" After doing the "Give it to me!" a few other times in this tournament.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

I was so proud of myself. I haven't gotten a Final Jeopardy right yet in the finals and I was absolutely positive I had figured it out at Kingston upon Hull

Nope.

Newcastle upon Tyne

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Hey good job Sam :)

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

CPColin posted:

:yeah:

More games = more better

With jeopardy this absolutely depends on who is the host.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
Congratulations Amy!

That seemed like an easy Final compared to some of them we have seen this tournament. So many supporting hints in the clue.

TelevisedInsanity
Dec 19, 2008

"You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling."
the fact there are two tournaments going on at the same time - I really like the "best of 7" then immediately back to the ongoing game. But I still think the tournament still goes a little too long for what used to be 10 games. The 2-Day Accumulation is only for Second Chance, and I think that's fantastic.

The Celebrity Jeopardy Triple Jeopardy is still a little sluggish, but I don't know if that's just the show pausing for "banter" or Mayim's hosting style.

I feel it needs to be more of a "season finale" instead of a midpoint, but it made for more dramatic moments, especially in final Jeopardy compared to a runaway game in a 2-day total.

I wonder if the show is good as it is, or does it need all these changes?

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
The Triple Jeopardy setup for Celebrity Jeopardy is just terrible. Either do 2 full games or just do one 30 minute episode and get more celebrities/shorten the tournament. Or get people who can at least do funny banter if you're going to slow the game down to a crawl. Maybe they did :shrug: I stopped watching after the first couple of games were so bad. Celebrity Wheel of Fortune had Kristen Schaal and Ron Fuches on for a game and the banter managed to actually be funny, so I assume it is possible.

Zero One posted:

Congratulations Amy!

That seemed like an easy Final compared to some of them we have seen this tournament. So many supporting hints in the clue.


I actually managed to guess it from the category for once which was interesting for a Tournament of Champions question. But I also figured that the pool of plays that they could draw on was shallow. Still did a little laugh when I saw 1864 and Washington and was happy that I said it out loud for psychic credit :).

Happy for Amy and happy that Sam at least got to win one. Also really cool that it was a series of competitive games. Hope they stick with the First to 3 system, it kept it a lot more interesting.

Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Nov 22, 2022

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Sam rules. I wish he had been a contestant on regular jeopardy.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
What a great tournament

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

I've loved this Tournament of Champions so much. It might be because I was fine with any of the three winning. They seemed to have such great camaraderie, with each other and Ken.

PSXer
Aug 2, 2006

The most exciting use of 1s and 0s next to internet porn
It seemed awfully convenient to me that the interview segment for the very last game of the tournament was about who the contestants wanted to thank. That's usually how it goes in tournaments. However, they also usually know exactly how many games a tournament is going to have ahead of time. What if this tournament ended after game 4 or 5 and they never got a chance to thank people?

They couldn't just do the interview segments out of order, because then the contestants would be wearing the wrong clothes. Maybe they taped similar segments for game 4 and 5 but didn't use them because it wasn't the last game?

Spokes
Jan 9, 2010

Thanks for a MONSTER of an avatar, Awful Survivor Mods!
at the international dota tournament its a double round robin and they call the 2-game sets each team plays against each other "best of two". haven't read any posts, hope this helps!

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

PSXer posted:

It seemed awfully convenient to me that the interview segment for the very last game of the tournament was about who the contestants wanted to thank. That's usually how it goes in tournaments. However, they also usually know exactly how many games a tournament is going to have ahead of time. What if this tournament ended after game 4 or 5 and they never got a chance to thank people?

They couldn't just do the interview segments out of order, because then the contestants would be wearing the wrong clothes. Maybe they taped similar segments for game 4 and 5 but didn't use them because it wasn't the last game?

I wouldn't be surprised if they filmed that after the final jeopardy. It didn't seem as though any of them were terribly upset at the result so maybe the vibes were very positive and they were all able to record some very happy and earnest comments just fine

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



PSXer posted:

It seemed awfully convenient to me that the interview segment for the very last game of the tournament was about who the contestants wanted to thank. That's usually how it goes in tournaments. However, they also usually know exactly how many games a tournament is going to have ahead of time. What if this tournament ended after game 4 or 5 and they never got a chance to thank people?

They couldn't just do the interview segments out of order, because then the contestants would be wearing the wrong clothes. Maybe they taped similar segments for game 4 and 5 but didn't use them because it wasn't the last game?

Two of the three already had two wins under their belts, so it probably wasn't too much of a surprise that the tourney was ending that night.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Nov 22, 2022

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf3z5nPSZLM

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Hunting for Daily Doubles to deny them to other players and then sitting back (because they can't possibly catch up to you if you correctly guess the DD) is a legitimate strategy. I know Jeopardy is a game show but it kinda annoys me when people play that way. Just a personal preference: I prefer the chiller style of an Amy or Sam Buttrey.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Nov 25, 2022

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Same, but I get why other players don't

Jokymi
Jan 31, 2003

Sweet Sassy Molassy
As someone who grew up in Montana, I didn't like the way the final was worded. Yellowstone County is the most populous county in the state but it does not border the park and Billings is definitely not a tourist destination.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
I've gotten lost in Billings once and can confirm.

Spokes
Jan 9, 2010

Thanks for a MONSTER of an avatar, Awful Survivor Mods!
i get lost in billings all the time when i have to talk to my insurance company, am i right folks

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
Sweet. Hulu cloud DVR decided to just not record Friday and every upload saying it's 11/25 is the episode from Thursday.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

BaronVonVaderham posted:

Sweet. Hulu cloud DVR decided to just not record Friday and every upload saying it's 11/25 is the episode from Thursday.

Something pre-empted Friday in my area and I'm not entirely sure what.

mearn
Aug 2, 2011

Kevin Harvick's #1 Fan!

It was probably college football, that pre-empted things in my area. I'm not sure if it's :filez: to link it, but there's at least one correct "jeopardy november 25 2022" on YouTube. You can spot the real one by Ken's tie in the thumbnail being different from the others.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Jeopardy should do a Black Friday special where they open the studio doors at 5am and whoever from the crowd of hundreds stampedes to the podiums first gets to play

TelevisedInsanity
Dec 19, 2008

"You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling."
That would be a literal throwback to the original introduction of "now entering the studio are today's players"

Have any of you been listening to the Inside Jeopardy podcast? I really love having Buzzy on talking about wanting the "beep boops" back

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




mearn posted:

You can spot the real one by Ken's tie in the thumbnail being different from the others.

This sounds like a Waldo puzzle

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
How can somebody with the last name Bonjour become an English teacher and not a French teacher smdh

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

CPColin posted:

How can somebody with the last name Bonjour become an English teacher and not a French teacher smdh

Jeannette Bonjour is a fuckin' Carmen Sandiego name if I've ever seen one.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Timby posted:

Jeannette Bonjour is a fuckin' Carmen Sandiego name if I've ever seen one.

A Daily Double! You must be on the right track...

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...
Jesus he's running out of anecdotes.

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I'm sorry...just sick of the guy. Cris is perfectly nice but watching one contestant dominate is not fun or interesting.

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