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A Buttery Pastry posted:If only two people watched it, they'd not get the same money next time. I guess. But if you're wishing for things that will never happen you'd be as well hoping for Kieth to be a secret socialist as for 2 people watching a World Cup. Anyway, this media rights for 2026 are already bought. If you really want to get mad, look forward to some of the nations looking to host in 2030: Greece have come together with Egypt & Saudi Arabia! Kazakhstan are investigating a bid, as are the South Koreans who are looking at the possibility of co-hosting with Japan, China and or North Korea. That'd be a hoot. England fans in Pyongyang. And there's another co-hosting proposal being investigated by Israel, in conjunction with Bahrain and or the UAE. FIFA will not learn 20th November 1910 - Francisco Madero released a proclamation attacking Porfirio Díaz and called for the Mexican people to rise up and overthrow him. An event generally accepted as the beginning of the Mexican Revolution. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 20, 2022 |
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jaete posted:Good to know, cheers! The Swiss deal was annoying for the EU, they ain't doing that crap again.  edit: Endjinneer posted:Interesting that the red team have started talking about democratic reform through abolition of the house of lords as it currently stands. Or sits. Unless we get some form of proportional representation (i'm sure some are better than others) the UK is still going to be hosed. Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Nov 20, 2022 |
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Oh so this abolish the House of Lords thing wasn't Stormer's idea, it comes from page 81 of the 2019 manifesto.quote:We will act immediately to end the hereditary Link to 2019 manifesto PDF https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Real-Change-Labour-Manifesto-2019.pdf
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Yea, abolishing the lords is not a bad thing. I'm somewhat wary of replacing them with another elected chamber (who has primacy? Why is one's decision more valid than the other?) but as pointed out, it is straight from the 2019 manifesto. I wonder why Kier decided to find some of the least socalist bits to stick to and point at to say he'd not ignored it. But it's also not a huge thorn in the side of socalist politics. You'd not build it from scratch, but removing it isn't going to meaningfully change anything either. Proportional representation is not a panacea either. The Tories are plenty able to do horrid poo poo with 40% of the vote and coalition partners as much as a majority. 2010-2015 proved that, it's probably the most competently evil they've been.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Proportional representation is not a panacea either. The Tories are plenty able to do horrid poo poo with 40% of the vote and coalition partners as much as a majority. 2010-2015 proved that, it's probably the most competently evil they've been. It's not but it's still far better than the alternative. There's also a risk that smaller parties have outsized influence due to playing kingmaker but there's also much more instability/churn in them since voting for them is no longer throwing your vote away, so they can be viable alternatives. Sadly, it would mean UKIP having seats in parliament.
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I feel like maybe the Lords should be replaced by a random allocation like jury duty. But I'm sure it'd just work to gently caress over struggling people, however you arranged it, so maybe not.
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HopperUK posted:I feel like maybe the Lords should be replaced by a random allocation like jury duty. But I'm sure it'd just work to gently caress over struggling people, however you arranged it, so maybe not. Random allocation but you get their £300 daily allowance.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Well our heating bill's up to £3 already today after turning the boiler and thermostat down, i promise you sitting here in the cold is not out of ignorance it's out of not wanting to loving bankrupt myself. Please do not feel too proud to look to the UKMT Solidarity Fund. It's there for situations like this.
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Just Another Lurker posted:The Swiss deal was annoying for the EU, they ain't doing that crap again. Yeah apparently the EU floated the idea of some kind of maybe-similar deal, but I can't be bothered to even find out what it would be exactly, since there's a hundred obstacles in the way of any such thing and this idiot government is capable of navigating pretty much zero of them
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The Swiss-style deal feels like the EU going "come on, for gently caress's sake, we'll make this as easy and painless for you as possible short of just pretending none of this ever happened" and the Brexit ultras still roaring a DUP-type "NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO!" Because god forbid they admit in even the tiniest way that Brexit was a loving stupid and self-destructive idea.
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I for one am right here for Joe Lycett "shredding" £10k and showing up a whole host of morons for the hypocritical, knee-jerk idiots they are. People are more angry that Lycett has "shredded ten thousand pounds" (which I don't believe he did) than they are about British sporting stars taking Qatari blood money to launder the State's image to western liberals. All the right people are pissed off and showing their arses and it's great.
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Prole posted:I for one am right here for Joe Lycett "shredding" £10k and showing up a whole host of morons for the hypocritical, knee-jerk idiots they are. People are more angry that Lycett has "shredded ten thousand pounds" (which I don't believe he did) than they are about British sporting stars taking Qatari blood money to launder the State's image to western liberals. All the right people are pissed off and showing their arses and it's great. Eh, I think he really did. https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1594302742847426562?s=20&t=YOFkGsRX_f_yuu27H18-Qw I think he's pretty sound and I don't feel like he'd have faked it when trying to get such an important message across.
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I finally put a bit of heating on this evening: my heated airer, not used for 3 years now, on a timer for an hour when the economy 7 kicks in and for a couple of hours before the economy 7 goes off in the morning. The main reason is for the past 2-3 weeks, towels used one day are still not dry the next. If I use it every night for 3 hours that'll be £6pm for say 3-4 months extra (my economy 7 rate is 17.41p at the moment). I've also bought a small dehumidifier that has got good reviews - only takes 300ml a day out but may be enough - £30 + £3.95 delivery from B&M. Should come later ths week. Shall report back once I've had it running for a while because I simply do not have space for a bigger one. Hopefully it will be all I need, I just do not have room for a bigger one.
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WhatEvil posted:Eh, I think he really did. Maybe. At worst he's spent ten grand of his own money on a campaign that has got people listening. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it was faked for effect. Doesn't make much difference either way because he's shown Beckham up, and those like him who are taking the cash, and got people showing their own hypocrisies on social media.
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Probably significantly cheaper than adverts would be with the reach on that tweet. Fact is you could live stream the human rights abuses from qatar to every home in the UK and people would still be cheering for England and watching becuse what the gently caress else are they going to do? Actually face up to the fact that the meagre existence of even the poorest in this country is built off the blood, sweat and deaths of other the people of other nations on this planet? Nah. People can't deal with that.
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Why are there so many smackable (metaphorical, officer, metaphorical) faces in the shadow cabinet? https://twitter.com/RidgeOnSunday/status/1594255769184382977 (NB - I haven't listened to the clip but apparently the headline is not reflective of the content. I'm just noticing the face clones Labour has now in the shadow cabinet). Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Why are there so many smackable (metaphorical, officer, metaphorical) faces in the shadow cabinet? Reminder he's married to Emily Oldknow, a chief wrecker in the Corbyn years
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forkboy84 posted:Reminder he's married to Emily Oldknow, a chief wrecker in the Corbyn years Yes and there was some incident involving him slagging off Corbyn too not long before GE19 IIRC. Found it: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/10/corbyn-criticism-was-banter-says-jonathan-ashworth Just reading that - Corbyn should have had the whip withdrawn from all these treacherous persons. Too soft by half. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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forkboy84 posted:I guess. But if you're wishing for things that will never happen you'd be as well hoping for Kieth to be a secret socialist as for 2 people watching a World Cup. Anyway, this media rights for 2026 are already bought. forkboy84 posted:If you really want to get mad, look forward to some of the nations looking to host in 2030: Greece have come together with Egypt & Saudi Arabia! Kazakhstan are investigating a bid, as are the South Koreans who are looking at the possibility of co-hosting with Japan, China and or North Korea. That'd be a hoot. England fans in Pyongyang. And there's another co-hosting proposal being investigated by Israel, in conjunction with Bahrain and or the UAE.
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forkboy84 posted:Reminder he's married to Emily Oldknow, a chief wrecker in the Corbyn years Oldknow was one of the staffers sending racist and misogynist messages about Diane Abbott, too. She got booted out of the party, but I guess that doesn't stick if you're married to the Chair of the party.
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Lady Demelza posted:It's 15.5C in my house. The heating has just kicked on for the first time since yesterday, and it'll go off in 30 minutes. My house is really poorly insulated but it is a mid-terrace. I wish all these people accusing others of performative coldness would give it a go for a month and see how they cope. Performative loving coldness jesus christ, I wish all the worst in the world on whichever lizard-brained turd came up with that phrase.
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"A Swiss style deal but we're going to make free movement pay for it" is just the same "we hold all the cards" stuff from 3 years ago, but mouldy and reheated. Good to see that Labour is fully bought in to the idea that the only true Brexit is the kind where you don't talk to the smelly EU because they have cooties.
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forkboy84 posted:Reminder he's married to Emily Oldknow, a chief wrecker in the Corbyn years I thought he was married to that Spectator columnist, or is that some other awful new labour ghoul I'm thinking of?
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Lungboy posted:If you believe Starmer will actually get rid of the lords I have some magic beans to sell you incidentally, this was the plot of the movie that stopped the drug smuggling trial
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keep punching joe posted:I thought he was married to that Spectator columnist, or is that some other awful new labour ghoul I'm thinking of? That's Woodcock, who is in the Lords now. He does look a bit like Ashworth though. Ashworth is one of those fannies who happily identifies as a Brownite loving hate that this is the knowledge my brain retains
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Prole posted:Maybe. At worst he's spent ten grand of his own money on a campaign that has got people listening. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it was faked for effect. Doesn't make much difference either way because he's shown Beckham up, and those like him who are taking the cash, and got people showing their own hypocrisies on social media. I do think he faked it too, "he's sound" is not a reason he wouldn't, it's a reason that he would go through with the act and then quietly donate the real money to an LGBT charity. He's not in the KMF. As you say, it's been very effective at boiling piss, and he's a Good Egg until proven otherwise
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forkboy84 posted:Reminder he's married to Emily Oldknow, a chief wrecker in the Corbyn years forkboy84 posted:That's Woodcock, who is in the Lords now. He does look a bit like Ashworth though. Ashworth is one of those fannies who happily identifies as a Brownite Googling her name, most recent result is a Daily Mail article saying she's divorced him. I don't care if it's true, which, given the Heil's reputation for truth... I'm still going to laugh on a Monday morning
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This is what happens when the system is so hosed that rich people also have to go on years long waiting lists for treatment. I wouldn't even judge anyone on a regular income for opting for private healthcare these days, as my partner has spent literally years now attempting to get various GPs to seriously investigate possible endometriosis, been put on excessively long wait lists for scans and tests, and eventually bit the bullet and went private (seen and diagnosed within a couple of weeks, surprise it was exactly what she thought it was in the first place).
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Tesseraction posted:Googling her name, most recent result is a Daily Mail article saying she's divorced him. Hope they are as miserable apart as they clearly were together
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Ironically I had the opposite experience recently - had been seeing private physios on an off since March for a shoulder problem. Some self-financed, some via insurance from work. Saw about 5 different people at greatly varying levels of experience. It took 6 months to get an accurate diagnosis and appointments usually took around a week or two to book. I give up and think I'll try NHS, manage to get an appointment within two days, actually get a steroid injection during the appointment. Wish I hadn't wasted my time at the start since it might have been able to prevent it getting worse than it has.
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Something similar when my dad had back problems - he used his private work insurance and they strung him along for a year with sessions and scans and then one day his private doctor was busy so the NHS one saw him and was like "what the gently caress you're about to be paralysed for life" and had him put in for urgent back surgery to remove a disc.
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keep punching joe posted:This is what happens when the system is so hosed that rich people also have to go on years long waiting lists for treatment. I'm really worried about what they mean with "the wealthy" because I guarantee they'll pull poo poo like "all immigrants" just like the whole no access to public funds bollocks they do now with my wife. Even though she pays tax and the cost to do all the paperwork is in the absolute thousands. We'd be entirely hosed if we weren't computer touchers and private healthcare was not becoming standard now. Its still shocking for mental health though. She had surgery for endometriosis this summer and its been a long and painful recovery but she's doing so much better now.
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OwlFancier posted:Does truss get to nominate people to the lords? PMs lordilating people should be done like presidential pardons in the US; if you haven't done it before the end of your term, tough. None of this beyond the political grave stuff.
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otoh 4 year fixed term Truss
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