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Ornery and Hornery posted:What is the backstory on that? I thought Irsay pressured Reich into benching Ryan? The local beat writers all seem to agree that Ryan's benching came down from Irsay, though they also maintain it was in a genuine effort to try and spark something on offense and not a cynical move toward tanking. I do question whether the edict would've stood once Ryan was recovered from his shoulder injury, given that the Ehlinger experiment was a pretty clear failure. The reason Saturday was allowed to put Ryan back in was because Irsay believed he would be able to get the OL playing better and minimize the amount of times Ryan was getting demolished in the backfield and fumbling the ball. So far that does appear to be the case, but that's a low bar to clear from early in the season.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:What is the backstory on that? I thought Irsay pressured Reich into benching Ryan? Everything sounds like he got pressured into benching Ryan. Especially with how fast Saturday switched back to Ryan. It's weird that Reich & Pederson were both forced to play bad QBs and that ended up being part of the reason they were both let go.
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To be clear, Reich was getting fired at the end of the season regardless of the QB switch.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:What is the backstory on that? I thought Irsay pressured Reich into benching Ryan? I've heard conflicting reports.
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ShakeZula posted:To be clear, Reich was getting fired at the end of the season regardless of the QB switch. And Pederson walked away because they wouldn't let him name his QB coach as the OC. But a lot of the fan outcry was over putting in Sudfeld, even though it seemingly wasn't his decision.
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On a related note: has it ever happened where a GM got fired and the team promoted someone internally into the spot? Because I feel like Ballard is getting canned after the season, but I generally like our drafting and there are two guys in the room already who have gotten GM interest around the league in Ed Dodds and Morocco Brown that I wouldn't mind seeing move up to the top spot.
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To be fair I haven’t seen anyone say putting in San is why Frank should be fired, he was probably out the door before that
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Don’t forget there was that Florio piece saying the real reason Ryan was benched was because they got spooked about getting stuck holding the bag for his injury guarantee if something serious happened to him. And there was absolutely 0% chance he would play for the Colts again. Then like one week later he’s back out there 
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ShakeZula posted:On a related note: has it ever happened where a GM got fired and the team promoted someone internally into the spot? Because I feel like Ballard is getting canned after the season, but I generally like our drafting and there are two guys in the room already who have gotten GM interest around the league in Ed Dodds and Morocco Brown that I wouldn't mind seeing move up to the top spot.
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The Chiefs fired Dorsey and promoted Brett Veach for another fairly recent one. Veach coincidentally was the guy who most wanted to draft Mahomes in the building which might have helped his case, although Mahomes hadn't done anything yet. e: huh John Dorsey's with the Lions now as a Senior Personnel Excecutive whatever that means. He actually strikes me as a decent guy to have around for a full rebuild which is what the Lions have been staring at (for the last 80 years) Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Ryan was hurt and they wanted to put Ehlinger in to see if they had something with him, and also he's mobile so they didn't want another statue like Foles in there. I think saying he was starting going forward was to give him a confidence boost and avoid any controversy if he played well and the Ryan benching was just due to injury. But he couldn't do anything, and when Saturday got in he had full say in who played. Ryan is better, but he's still cooked.
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Huh, I guess it's more common than I would've expected. In that case let's do it: fire Ballard, put Brown or Dodds in the top spot, and let them hire their coach
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Relentlessboredomm posted:it feels like that raiders win both saved josh some heat and dialed it up on Hackett even further In hindsight it does kind of look like a loser-leaves-town type situation. Maybe Hackett was done for anyway.
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Hackett should be fired, but firing Hackett doesn't save Paton's job. Instead it pretty much guarantees that Paton is gone as well. Maybe ownership steps in, but there is basically no hope of salvaging this season. For all the talk of Hackett getting fired, there really isn't any inertia to actually do it.
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Fire Denver coach and GM. Pray that new people can build quickly enough to make use of that awesome defense. Denver defense still good even after trading Chubb! Heck, maybe just promote the DC to HC!
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Is there a scenario where Wilson is willing to renegotiate his contract to keep his starting job? Would his ego allow such a thing?
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Fire Denver coach and GM. Feels a little early for Evero, though I’m sure someone will take a chance on him. But I suspect the Broncos will want to take another stab at finding an offensive guy in the hopes that they can somehow salvage Wilson.
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big coaching candidate name fresh off the presses! https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1594743062022217728?s=20&t=7RetaZ01T55RFjt_A1cd5g
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Ehud posted:big coaching candidate name fresh off the presses! Honestly kind of surprised he's never been given a shot. He'll be terrible if does but it still surprises me he's never been HC.
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When was the last time teams wanted to poach from the Dolphins coaching staff? The Wannstedt era?
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Ehud posted:big coaching candidate name fresh off the presses! Well if Russell Wilson wants someone familiar ....
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:When was the last time teams wanted to poach from the Dolphins coaching staff? The Wannstedt era? Been a good bit. I think Frank Smith is most likely to be poached. This is the first time I've heard Bevell's name. I remember several "lol bevell" posts when he was hired as QB coach because he is not well regarded as an OC. There's really no way to quantify how much he has contributed to Tua's success this year, but I'd be concerned if my team was sniffing around him as, "guy who we can hire to fix our QB!" when you consider the multitude of other contributing factors to Tua's leap forward.
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Bevell was a combined 2-7 as interim head coach for the hopeless 2020 Lions and 2021 Jags. I mean, that's not that bad.
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what do you suppose jay gruden really does for the wams. critique the offense to team coaches after games? just receive a paycheck from his boy for nothing? this is a guessing game and the winner will receive a prize
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wandler20 posted:Bevell to the Broncos...... Does Bevell want the broncos job? He knows wilson and probably knows Wilson is cooked. Like what hot HC candidate, like bevell, wants to sign up for a franchise QB throwing the way Wilson is this season with no flexibility to get "your guy" because that contract.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:When was the last time teams wanted to poach from the Dolphins coaching staff? The Wannstedt era? Vance Joseph, unless you count the guy(s?) who took lateral moves to get away from Brian Flores
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Fire Denver coach and GM. Is there a Derrick Henry in the next draft? I don’t even know what the gently caress Denver does to work around being stuck with Russ’ albatross contract for several more years besides pretend he doesn’t exist.
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Docjowles posted:Is there a Derrick Henry in the next draft? I don’t even know what the gently caress Denver does to work around being stuck with Russ’ albatross contract for several more years besides pretend he doesn’t exist. Bijan Robinson rules
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Bijan Robinson rules He’s about 3 inches shorter and 30lbs lighter than Henry.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Bijan Robinson rules He does, but I really don't want him ruined with this career path. Send him to a nice home on the 49ers or something. e: The Lions would actually be better than the current Broncos which is saying a bit.
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If your team-building strategy relies on finding another player built like Derrick Henry, I've got some bad news for you
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Cavauro posted:he is going to start kneeling in protest of not being the starter He'll be doing high knees on the sidelines
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ShakeZula posted:If your team-building strategy relies on finding another player built like Derrick Henry, I've got some bad news for you What if my team building strategy is to find the next Tom brady?
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really queer Christmas posted:What if my team building strategy is to find the next Tom brady? An interesting, little-known fact about Tom Brady: he was drafted in the 6th round!
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ShakeZula posted:An interesting, little-known fact about Tom Brady: he was drafted in the 6th round! Did you know that the first game he played in was the first game after 9/11?
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Kalli posted:Drew Bledsoe was a controlled collapse. Belichick replaced Pete Carroll….. my god, how could we have been so blind 
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