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And how did Spongebob get his pineapple? Through jihad
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Nov 21, 2022 19:06
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gradenko_2000 posted:And how did Spongebob get his pineapple? Through jihad
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Nov 21, 2022 19:06
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm the guy yelling "don't take it out of context!!!" lol
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Nov 21, 2022 19:52
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I'm pretty sure Fivek got doxxed and fired from her job for opposing US war against Syria too
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Nov 21, 2022 20:12
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How would Russian domination over Europe advance the cause of marxism and/or socialism?
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Nov 21, 2022 20:40
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Fish of hemp posted:How would Russian domination over Europe advance the cause of marxism and/or socialism? in what context? like, today? or back when the USSR was around?
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Nov 21, 2022 21:19
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If Nicholas II had ruled all of Europe, I could see socialist revolutions popping up right quick.
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Nov 21, 2022 21:23
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A USSR covering all territory between Gibraltar and the tip of the Kamchatka Peninsula would, demonstrably, have advanced marxism and/or socialism further than it did historically.
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Nov 21, 2022 22:02
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bedpan posted:A USSR covering all territory between Gibraltar and the tip of the Kamchatka Peninsula would, demonstrably, have advanced marxism and/or socialism further than it did historically. given their posting history i assume the op is trying some kind of idiot judo but goddamn that wouldve been sick yeah
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Nov 21, 2022 22:07
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Is she still posting
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Nov 21, 2022 23:18
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From a cursory twitter glance she seems to be anti vax. Hell yes.
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Nov 21, 2022 23:19
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AnimeIsTrash posted:From a cursory twitter glance she seems to be anti vax. Hell yes. yeah her and phil greaves were allies on the plandemic front. both of them managed to meme themselves into abandoning and later condemning germ theory altogether
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Nov 21, 2022 23:47
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croup coughfield posted:in what context? like, today? or back when the USSR was around? Today. USSR is not Russia. I mean if Žižek is wrong about NATO and Europe (and a liberal), that leaves Russia as the dominating military and energy power in Europe. How this would be better for the cause of marxism than NATO backed Europe?
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Nov 22, 2022 06:39
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Fish of hemp posted:Today. USSR is not Russia. Because whatever Russia does cannot compare to the horror the NATO bloc has inflicted on the rest of the world. This is not pro Russia either, it's just facts. Russia just does not have the reach or capability necessary to deprive a majority of the world of essentials, as much as liberals would hate to admit it And if Europe tied themselves so thoroughly to what they consider a geopolitical enemy then that's their own fault and blame should be pointed in the appropriate direction. It's just not possible to credibly hold simultaneous positions of "Russia is a serious strategic threat" and "Russia is terrorizing Europe by causing an energy crisis" More to the point, NATO is the dominant bloc and the military arm of capital. Breaking that bloc is good but confusing that with unconditional support for a specific country is confusing critical support for unconditional nationalism
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Nov 22, 2022 06:49
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Also NATO looks a lot like natto which is also poo poo.
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Nov 22, 2022 06:52
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Fish of hemp posted:I mean if Žižek is wrong about NATO and Europe (and a liberal), that leaves Russia as the dominating military and energy power in Europe. How this would be better for the cause of marxism than NATO backed Europe? Russia, as a weaker power than NATO (or the US specifically), would be less capable of snuffing out nascent socialist movements as they appear.
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Nov 22, 2022 06:52
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And lastly not a poster here doesn't wish the USSR wasn't overthrown and a mafioso protege hadn't been groomed to be Yeltsin's successor but here we are post shock doctrine and all
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Nov 22, 2022 06:53
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Using the EU as a proxy for Europe isn't perfect but it's useful The EU has a population of about 450 million and Russia has a population of about 140 million The World Bank says the EU has a GDP of about $17 trillion and Russia a GDP of $1.8 trillion One EU state has nuclear weapons I've got questions about how exactly the dissolution of NATO would lead to Europe becoming militarily dominated by Russia.
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Nov 22, 2022 07:08
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Atrocious Joe posted:Using the EU as a proxy for Europe isn't perfect but it's useful A Russia that has a political system that makes it exceedingly difficult to scrounge up the soldiers to militarily dominate its nearest neighbor. But, sure, their going push on to Berlin.
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Nov 22, 2022 07:15
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genericnick posted:A Russia that has a political system that makes it exceedingly difficult to scrounge up the soldiers to militarily dominate its nearest neighbor. But, sure, their going push on to Berlin. yeah but they should I know you're responding to a syq but I'd rather the eurozone reorient away from the US because the more the MIC gets starved for resources the more beneficial it is for the rest of the world and the more contradictions continue to heighten, although with the stranglehold the US MIC has on the European arms sales market it's not likely to happen soon enough
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Nov 22, 2022 07:22
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droll posted:Also NATO looks a lot like natto which is also poo poo. gently caress you fermented beans are good. how loving dare you. you little poo poo
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Nov 22, 2022 09:07
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Fish of hemp posted:Today. USSR is not Russia. so how familiar are you with the history of NATO in europe and its integration into broader US security policy stuff like the stay-behind networks, surveillance and insanely dark poo poo like the dutroux affair are connected pretty clearly to NATO's institutional context. it's the framework by which the american security interest imposes itself on the continent. so long as one is in NATO, any transition to socialism is flatly impossible because it means that your security state is integrated into the american military-industrial complex and its political economy is therefore intrinsically opposed to any such notion. russia would be relatively stronger without NATO, but europe would be more easily able to steer its own ship relative to a moderately functional russian regional power, which would itself be less paranoid and aggressive. probably this present war would not have happened, because the european continental powers would've been able to pressure ukraine into implementing minsk 2. i realise that a lot of people prefer the war to that implementation, but it seems very clear that the interests of the working class of europe's nations would have been better served by that than the hosed-up way things have gone since then, including the further entrenchment of US supremacy over europe. one thing which really does peeve me about the apparent line of reasoning here is that there's an attitude where the disastrous failure of the NATO-based security order on its own, charitable premises - the outbreak of conventional war in europe - is taken as an argument in favour of the NATO-based security order. that is, as we may say, deeply ideological
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Nov 22, 2022 09:58
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is there a specific link between NATO and dutroux?
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Nov 22, 2022 10:30
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double nine posted:is there a specific link between NATO and dutroux? yes, but only in the very, very loose epstein-thread sense.
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Nov 22, 2022 11:30
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Cuttlefush posted:gently caress you fermented beans are good. how loving dare you. you little poo poo natto looks and tastes like crunchy boogers. disgusting.
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Nov 22, 2022 14:40
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Fish of hemp posted:Today. USSR is not Russia. you could make that the argument that brics surpassing nato would put china in a position to encourage socialist movements but thats a bit beyond the scope of the question. the short answer is that on the face of it, russia gaining power and displacing nato influence in europe isn't really any better or worse for the spread of marxist ideas and socialist power in europe or the broader world. russia has no more interest in a successful socialist movement than any other capitalist power aspiring to imperialism. theres a current in the anglosphere left that any nation or power that opposes us/nato interests is automatically "on their side" and must be "defended" which is both very stupid and very funny. the fact of the matter is that pretty much no one is on "our" side, which is to say, the side of anti-capitalism. imo the only thing that's good for socialism right now is strengthening domestic socialist organizations to withstand and exploit recession of state power, spreading class consciousness, and maintaining ties and solidarity with similar groups abroad.
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Nov 22, 2022 14:46
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camoseven posted:natto looks and tastes like crunchy boogers. disgusting. natto is not supposed to be crunchy wtf
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Nov 22, 2022 15:05
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croup coughfield posted:theres a current in the anglosphere left that any nation or power that opposes us/nato interests is automatically "on their side" and must be "defended" which is both very stupid and very funny. the fact of the matter is that pretty much no one is on "our" side, which is to say, the side of anti-capitalism. imo the only thing that's good for socialism right now is strengthening domestic socialist organizations to withstand and exploit recession of state power, spreading class consciousness, and maintaining ties and solidarity with similar groups abroad. i'm not sure about this. the closest thing to defending non-aes nations opposing us/nato interests is going to come from mls going "critical support for russia/the lion of syria". and as a group they aren't going to confuse russia or syria as actually being on their side. the rest of the anglosphere left really isn't really doing anything close to that.
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Nov 22, 2022 15:13
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Cuttlefush posted:i'm not sure about this. the closest thing to defending non-aes nations opposing us/nato interests is going to come from mls going "critical support for russia/the lion of syria". and as a group they aren't going to confuse russia or syria as actually being on their side. the rest of the anglosphere left really isn't really doing anything close to that. one mans experience i guess but i see it all the time. online more than anywhere else, though a buddy of mine irl is possessed of this insane idea that russia is actually being shadow controlled by the remnants of the soviet power base lmao. he is awaiting the day where the simpsons meme gif becomes real like millerites wait for the end of days
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Nov 22, 2022 15:27
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croup coughfield posted:one mans experience i guess but i see it all the time. online more than anywhere else, though a buddy of mine irl is possessed of this insane idea that russia is actually being shadow controlled by the remnants of the soviet power base lmao. he is awaiting the day where the simpsons meme gif becomes real like millerites wait for the end of days god drat doesn't he know about china
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Nov 22, 2022 15:31
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croup coughfield posted:russia is actually being shadow controlled by the remnants of the soviet power base lmao it is, all of the oligarchs and top men were top people in the party and KGB or whatever. they just are not communists any more
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Nov 22, 2022 15:32
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Cuttlefush posted:god drat i dunno man hes a good guy and a motivating figure in just about every org I've seen him work with but he has some wild ideas lol Rutibex posted:it is, all of the oligarchs and top men were top people in the party and KGB or whatever. they just are not communists any more im talking true believers here
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Nov 22, 2022 15:37
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is this spillover from some other thread?
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Nov 22, 2022 16:19
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https://twitter.com/jacobin/status/1595073366603481090?t=O0eCMYF72RssvP_JzHTThg&s=19 They've really got the pulse of the nation
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Nov 22, 2022 18:13
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croup coughfield posted:one mans experience i guess but i see it all the time. online more than anywhere else, though a buddy of mine irl is possessed of this insane idea that russia is actually being shadow controlled by the remnants of the soviet power base lmao. he is awaiting the day where the simpsons meme gif becomes real like millerites wait for the end of days The pressing desire to find some sort of win for socialism in this conflict between three factions that openly and proudly despise socialism and persecute its adherents has broken a lot of brains. Like yes Putin is ex-KGB, but not every commie cop is our good friend Raphael Ambrosius Cousteau and Putin's whole thing was that they should focus on making money instead of all this betterment of the human condition nonsense. Epic High Five has issued a correction as of 18:48 on Nov 22, 2022 |
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Nov 22, 2022 18:22
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extra funny bc the anglo left has 0 power whatsoever to influence the outcome if this war in any capacity it's just ink on pages and having the right analysis to satisfy...idk I guess yourself and your peer circle. It totally consumes people though
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Nov 22, 2022 18:45
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it's all about Posting, the most important axis of praxis
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Nov 22, 2022 19:22
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/jacobin/status/1595073366603481090?t=O0eCMYF72RssvP_JzHTThg&s=19 they sure do lol
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Nov 22, 2022 19:35
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croup coughfield posted:theres a current in the anglosphere left that any nation or power that opposes us/nato interests is automatically "on their side" and must be "defended" which is both very stupid and very funny. the fact of the matter is that pretty much no one is on "our" side, which is to say, the side of anti-capitalism. imo the only thing that's good for socialism right now is strengthening domestic socialist organizations to withstand and exploit recession of state power, spreading class consciousness, and maintaining ties and solidarity with similar groups abroad. I guess if South Africa is part of the anglosphere then you could say there is enough momentum behind that idea for it to be a current. That's the only English-speaking place where I've heard anyone with a role in a major political organization say that NATO started the war. I haven't been paying much attention to reactions in Pakistan and India though. I know in Latin America that is a somewhat popular current, but that's outside the anglosphere. The people in the Sahel and Haiti waving Russian flags probably aren't in the anglosphere either.
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double nine posted:is there a specific link between NATO and dutroux? not beyond NATO officials being allegedly implicated in the trafficking network for which he was procuring, because they were an integrated part of the brussels elite
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Nov 22, 2022 20:03
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