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Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Build houses on top of the Amazon warehouse. The Amazon arcology.

Bunkhouses for the Amazon serfs warehouse workers.

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Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




NotJustANumber99 posted:

Build houses on top of the Amazon warehouse. The Amazon arcology.

Building an Arcology is just the prologue of a Cyberpunk book. But Cyberpunk is never as cool in real life.

Prole
Jan 13, 2022

kingturnip posted:

Dude, everyone knows Labour sucks. And everyone with a functioning brain expects even left-wing Labour MPs to promote the party because if they don't they'll be deselected and won't win at the next General Election. And then there'll be basically no left-wing MPs at all.
I dunno about you, but I'd rather there are a few left-wing MPs to fly the flag for good causes than twenty more centre-right cunts too thick to realise how useless Starmer is.

They're trying to deselect them as it is. They're trying to stop Corbyn standing as a Labour candidate. I'm sick of hearing "We are socialists! We aren't like them. We disagree with the Labour leadership on all these things. But vote Labour anyway 👍👍" Unless they want to quit the party and take their values to the electorate as independents then all they're doing is propping up the Labour right. Nah, no quarter anymore. gently caress them all unless they're willing to put values above career.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Payndz posted:

I was looking at Stoke-on-Trent (where I used to go to uni) on satellite view in Google Maps to see what had changed in the past few decades, and had a "the hell?!?" moment when I saw some colossal buildings - one of them an Amazon - that are probably visible from space.

Stoke has huge amounts of brownfield sites from the collapse of the pottery industry, tons of poorly educated people and is on the M6 an hour from both Birmingham and Manchester.
It basically turning into a giant warehouse, every time I go back to visit my folks another area is now warehouses.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Martin Lewis show this evening a bit grim on next year's fuel costs.
How the heck are people going to manage?
I've given in and put the heating on since yesterday evening (electric) a setting that brings my living room up to 18.5C.
I've been putting the heated airer on for a couple of days because my towels are still damp 24 hours after use without it.

NB he just said for anyone on a PRE-PAYMENT meter, if you have not had your £400 yet you should have. It might be a text, an email (check your spam folder) or a letter in the post, and if you haven't seen it, you must contact your provider.

No fixes available anywhere apparently if you're just coming of a contract.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Rarity posted:

Ah the winter blackouts have started early I see

We lost power for about 5 hours today. 1/3 of properties in the area.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Red Oktober posted:

We lost power for about 5 hours today. 1/3 of properties in the area.

I saw an acticle that mentioned blackouts were Scotland/Glasgow based.

Is there a reliable tracker for this kind of thing?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Kin posted:

I saw an acticle that mentioned blackouts were Scotland/Glasgow based.

Is there a reliable tracker for this kind of thing?

https://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/power-cut/map

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
That just reminded me of this actual treasure of the internet

https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
https://fxtwitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1595112572725780481

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Yeah, I wonder what's going to happen next summer when the price cap comes off, then next winter when there's no financial support.

The prices are never coming back down, even if / when the war in the Ukraine ends. The majority of the country can't afford the prices. But they also don't want people getting payrises.

So what next?

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Martin Lewis show this evening a bit grim on next year's fuel costs.
How the heck are people going to manage?
I've given in and put the heating on since yesterday evening (electric) a setting that brings my living room up to 18.5C.
I've been putting the heated airer on for a couple of days because my towels are still damp 24 hours after use without it.

NB he just said for anyone on a PRE-PAYMENT meter, if you have not had your £400 yet you should have. It might be a text, an email (check your spam folder) or a letter in the post, and if you haven't seen it, you must contact your provider.

No fixes available anywhere apparently if you're just coming of a contract.

My parents live in a 16th century stone cottage, the kind of house it would be impossible to insulate to a modern standard without pulling down and rebuilding. I pulled out their woodburning stove a few years ago while fitting a new kitchen for them, back when central heating fuel was relatively cheap. They're now in the process of having a woodburner fitted in the main room as a primary heat source. I'm lucky in that I own a van and have access to a practically unlimited supply of free scrap timber from work. I'm spending time each weekend cutting enough up to last them over the winter. A bit of a lovely thing to do environmentally, but better than worrying about them rationing the last few inches of fuel in the oil tank.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Bobby Deluxe posted:

So what next?

Everything just slowly gets worse. It will get a lot worse before there is a chance of it becoming better.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Soylent Yellow posted:

My parents live in a 16th century stone cottage, the kind of house it would be impossible to insulate to a modern standard without pulling down and rebuilding. I pulled out their woodburning stove a few years ago while fitting a new kitchen for them, back when central heating fuel was relatively cheap. They're now in the process of having a woodburner fitted in the main room as a primary heat source. I'm lucky in that I own a van and have access to a practically unlimited supply of free scrap timber from work. I'm spending time each weekend cutting enough up to last them over the winter. A bit of a lovely thing to do environmentally, but better than worrying about them rationing the last few inches of fuel in the oil tank.

My brother has just bought an old stone cottage and the debate is what to do, insulate internally or no, can't externally.

There doesnt seem to be a correct answer.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


They are lovely, but they were built on the expectation you'd spend winter bundled up in one room wrapped up warm around a fire, if you weren't out the house doing manual labour.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
They're so bloody fake.

https://twitter.com/cr_short/status/1595030773362749441

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Bobby Deluxe posted:

So what next?

The fear of starving and/or freezing to death will incentivise shirkers into getting off their backsides into bettering themselves through hard work. Work will set them free. If people CHOOSE to let themselves die through laziness then that's on them, and not their illustrious and charitable overlords

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!




With someone perfectly ready to snap the photo at the exact moment too, what luck!

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
they had 6 goes to get the photo to be fair

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
The odd thing is apparently Starmer is genuinely passionate and knowledgeable about football, which makes his efforts to go along with whatever his advisers think ‘looks good to people’ all the more pathetic really.

I remember a little while ago he was asked some specific question on the radio about the England team, clearly designed to catch him out as being ‘out of touch’. It was a question I’m sure he was more than capable of answering properly, but he gave the same lame ‘is this the sort of thing you want to hear?’ response he does about everything. A truly sad, hollow figure of a man.

Answers Me fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Nov 22, 2022

Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005

I'd laugh my tits off if someone clever with metadata (?) can analyse that photo and find it was actually taken after the match.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Gambrinus posted:

I'd laugh my tits off if someone clever with metadata (?) can analyse that photo and find it was actually taken after the match.

It's already been edited to add the stock photographer watermark (actually, that's odd in itself - why is it sold to a stock photo company? Do they also do newspaper distribution?) so it won't have the true metadata in it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

all images of keir starmer actually end up with stock photo watermarks in them as a natural effect of his personality and there is a team at labour HQ that carefully edits them out again.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/jacob_judah/status/1594822104041627662

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Soylent Yellow posted:

A bit of a lovely thing to do environmentally, but better than worrying about them rationing the last few inches of fuel in the oil tank.

Buddy do not feel an inch of guilt when this planet is currently being superheated by megacorps each belching more into the atmosphere a day than your parents could if they burned inefficient wood 24/7 until their eternal rest.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


quote:

Baddiel is hardly speaking for all British Jews. One case in his book and documentary involves the fact that British Jews are not offered “Jew” as an option on the census when asked to select their ethnicity. (The same issue has been debated in the United States, where white respondents were asked in the 2020 census to write in their racial “origins.”)

“It is othering and alienating” that Jews do not have a distinct option box, Baddiel said.

But the view that Jews should not have an ethnicity option has historically and continues to be the position of the main representative body for British Jews, the Board of Deputies, as well as the Institute for Jewish Policy Research, a think tank that studies the demographics of British and European Jews.

The Office for National Statistics, which administers the census, investigated the possibility of adding a Jewish ethnicity option ahead of the 2021 census in England and Wales. The ONS consulted with the Jewish groups and, in cooperation with polling firm Kantar, concluded that Jews in Britain viewed it “highly unacceptable” given historical concerns about discrimination and “the racialisation of religious groups.”

The ONS and Kantar found that most Jews “did not identify as an ethnicity” and that adding an ethnic option would be counterproductive, as “its inclusion may cause participants to question whether they wanted to complete the census.”

Baddiel questioned the conclusion, arguing that the most recent research was “a long time ago” and that such views were “massively out-of-date notions of what representation and inclusion looks like.” He said he had “certainly” felt demand for a Jewish option “from the people who speak to me.”

"Am I so out of touch?


No. It is the other Jews who are wrong."

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I cannot even begin to imagine why anybody might not want to identify as ethnically jewish to the government. Clearly that is a thing that everybody would enjoy!

jesus mary and joseph lmao

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

NotJustANumber99 posted:

My brother has just bought an old stone cottage and the debate is what to do, insulate internally or no, can't externally.

There doesnt seem to be a correct answer.

Draught sealing usually yields alot of bang for buck as a first effort.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



He shows the intellectual curiosity of some sort of...I'm trying to think of an animal that lacks any curiosity like David & I just am coming up blank. "I'm not interested..." is a telling phrase in that interview.

Just another public school boy.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Building an Arcology is just the prologue of a Cyberpunk book. But Cyberpunk is never as cool in real life.

When?

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Good news everyone!

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1595165847638708248

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

never really noticed before but that arcology looks like it's desperately holding in a wee

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Very much enjoy publishing absolute nonsense and qualify it with "says [some dickhead]" which makes it factually correct.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014





Whenever they figure out how to stop the dome being a target for eco-revanchist terrorists.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

"Am I so out of touch?


No. It is the other Jews who are wrong."
He can just write 'Jew' on the census, if that's what he wishes to do, without relitigating in public the debate about who is and is not, or whether it is a good idea for the government to have big lists of Jews and for what purpose.

TACD posted:

never really noticed before but that arcology looks like it's desperately holding in a wee
That's what stops the lake escaping.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

OwlFancier posted:

Very much enjoy publishing absolute nonsense and qualify it with "says [some dickhead]" which makes it factually correct.

More than you usually bother with

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

NotJustANumber99 posted:

More than you usually bother with

He's quoted your posts a bunch of times though

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Interested in the thread's opinion on this.

I own a house (in Canada) which I am living in with my wife. We recently remortgaged and borrowed some extra money to make improvements to our house - it's a bit of a fixer-upper. I have though realised that due to the shape of my plot and the zoning I'm in, as well as my current monetary situation, I could build a decent size extension on the house - if I do most of the work myself, which I believe I'm capable of. It'll be timber-frame (that's how most things are built here) so it'll be relatively cheap and easy (famous last words I know).

Since I'm not currently working, I'd like to use the building to make myself some money.

I could build an attached garage/workshop and use that to make things to sell with my woodworking talents. I already have some ideas of things I would make that I think would sell well, such as garden furniture/planters etc. and again I'm confident I have the skills to do it if I can make the sales - that's the part I'm worried about. I hate any kind of sales or marketing work.

Something else I could build would be a second housing unit - a "grandparent suite" or a rental unit... but I have a severe aversion to becoming a landlord. Even if I were to rent it at lower than market rates I just don't really like the feel of it. So if I were to go this route I'd likely build the extra unit and sell the house plus the extra unit for a decent profit. Even this feels a bit scummy to me, due to gentrification, and the fact that it'll almost certainly be bought by a landlord who will be a shitbag. Also the only way I'll then be able to realise any gains for this (and remember, I'll actually be doing most of the work myself which is where the profit will come from) is if either rent it out or sell the house, and I don't know if I'm super eager to move - I like this house and the location and the neighbours - but I guess if it makes me £80k or something then it's probably worth it? I'm yet to work out exactly how much it would cost or how much value it would add to the house.

On the other hand, creating green infill housing (I would build with higher than standard levels of insulation etc.), and contributing to densification (a good thing) in a housing crisis seems like a good thing to do. Unsure how I'd go about renting it out without being a poo poo. Like, market rent rates are pretty high at the moment and if I rented it at market rates I might be able to recoup my investment in like, 8 years? Maybe a bit less? But like I say, I don't really want to do that... but then I'm not sure what a "fair" discount on market rates is, or how to ensure that it goes to somebody who it'll benefit the most. Also that'd be 8 years to pay back the cost of the materials to build it - not to pay me anything for my time for building it. In order to pay back as much as it would add to my house in value would probably take 20 years or more rented out at market rates (though like I say it's currently up in the air exactly how much it'll cost me to build and how much value it'd add to my house so it's difficult to know for sure).

I want to do *something* - it's not like the money would just sit there otherwise - there are plenty of other things I could do with it that would start benefiting me immediately like switching our main space heating for the house to a heat pump and putting enough solar on our roof to cover nearly 100% of our energy bills. That would have a payback period of something like 12 years from what we've worked out - and that's with only moderate energy price increases, while I am expecting increases to be quite a bit higher than the "safe" scenario we've planned - so payback would likely be much quicker than that - though I'd be doing less/none of the work myself.

Any thoughts? Does it change the ALAB calculations at all if the only reason the rented space exists is because the landlord has spent time and money to actually build housing that otherwise wouldn't exist? Also I'm not sure if I'd be able to build it and then sell it as a separate property (which would probably be my preferred solution) without a whole load of extra cost and legal wrangling and stuff because of the way building lots and stuff work here.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Nov 23, 2022

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The objectionable part of landlording is that you are utilizing your access to capital and the favour of the law upholding property rights, to extract money from people who have neither capital nor favour from the law. Even if you build it yourself it doesn't change that. Lots of people would build their own dwelling if land were not controlled and parceled out based on being to afford a large initial investment, that's why the stick of terrorizing the homeless and squatters is necessary, it is necessary that livable space be rendered unlivable via hostile architecture, policing, and demolition in order to force people into the housing market, from which any landlord benefits.

Building the stuff yourself and selling it is less objectionable, though obviously as you say you're still trading with the homeowning class which includes a lot of landlords, up to you whether or not that's an issue for you I guess. You could try to work out how much labour time you put in and the projected increase in sale value and work out how much you're being paid to do it, essentially, and then figure out whether or not that seems excessive to you, whether you are unfairly leveraging your existing capital etc, but that is kind of unavoidable if you have the capital to some extent, you're always going to be in a better position than someone without it and that includes building a workshop in which to ply your craft, which is like, the closest you can come to owning your own means of production.

Ultimately once you sell something it's out of your hands and what then goes on to be done with it and how much that's something you're responsible for is kind of hard to figure out. I would say you might be reaching the edge of practical human consideration there unless you're making, like, guns or something. At least in the sense that it is very difficult to find a form of labour which does not, in some way, make things worse for someone, somewhere.

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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

My brother has just bought an old stone cottage and the debate is what to do, insulate internally or no, can't externally.

There doesnt seem to be a correct answer.

Too bad, external insulation really would've been the way to go. Get that thermal mass separated from the outside. Nevermind all the issues with trying to add vapor barriers to an old house and hoping it's tight. Which is a thing you kinda need once insulation is added on the inside, if you add more than 50mm anyway. You could possibly add more by using something different than rockwool or glasswool. There are insulation materials that can absorb and release moisture without being ruined and turning to moldytown.

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