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goethe.cx posted:I might regret asking this, but what else should I play if I liked Danganronpa? Specifically the wacky and memorable characters, I don't mind murder game stuff but I'm not seeking it out in particular. I've played the Zero Escape games already Raging Loop
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SexyBlindfold posted:Paradise Killer, maybe? The setting's pretty outlandish, but in many aspects it's "what if Danganronpa but more". Not really a visual novel, though. There's also Nine Doors, Nine Persons, Nine Doors, but I never played that one all the way through so can't guarantee its overall quality. Paradise Killer owns. It's the most batshit game I've played in a long time
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goethe.cx posted:I might regret asking this, but what else should I play if I liked Danganronpa? Specifically the wacky and memorable characters, I don't mind murder game stuff but I'm not seeking it out in particular. I've played the Zero Escape games already fez_machine posted:For the steam sale are there any major/quality visual novels available on Steam I've missed out on and should snap up? I think for both of you I'd say to add VA-11 Hall-A. Its more of a vibe and chill with some characters rather than a particularly strong narrative, but if it fits your style its good at that.
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Ornamented Death posted:25th Ward is the Silver Case sequel. Oh duh! hosed up the doing a reading part, it was right there!
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vallhalla (but with numbers and hyphens thrown in there somewhere) is pretty good. If you enjoy it, you might like Coffee Talk, which has a similar setting but with a more saccharine vibe (vallhalla's tone is a bit more edgy). Another game with a similar-ish setting and visual style, but that plays like a more straightforward point-and-click detective adventure, is 2064: Read-only Memories.
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fez_machine posted:On Wishlist: Buried Stars is on a great discount this sale, I just grabbed it. Haven't played yet though.
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fez_machine posted:Definitely the AI games. hot drat here's hoping a Switch release for Your Turn is no longer just one of my pipe dreams
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fez_machine posted:On Wishlist: i'm a little biased because I've LPd one of these, am currently LPing another one of these, and have like 3-4 of these more in the 'maybe LP someday' category, but there's definitely some good options on this list- the one I'm currently LPing is Zodiac Trial so if you wanted to get a look at the start to feel out if you're into it there's always that 
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hello i am the thread's number one lady in mystery fan, if you like poorly translated historical mysteries with lesbian romance its the best in da biz!
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I'd say skip Vallhalla because it's completely vapid other than its aesthetic
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Snooze Cruise posted:hello i am the thread's number one lady in mystery fan, if you like poorly translated historical mysteries with lesbian romance its the best in da biz! This is the part of the description that prevents me converting from wish list to bought. The steam reviews are so mad about it how bad the translation is and I have a low tolerance for bad English if I'm going to be reading a lot of it. On Vallahalla and 2064, I own 'em I just don't really count them as visual novels (although god bless you if you do). Is there truly nothing great on Steam that isn't in my wishlist or I already own? I can't trust most steam reviews or vndb past the big 10 because they're full of jacking off hobbyists who write thousands of words praising some of the worst poo poo in the world.
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fez_machine posted:On Vallahalla and 2064, I own 'em I just don't really count them as visual novels (although god bless you if you do). Yeah they're more or less J-ADV games like Snatcher and Portopia
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kirbysuperstar posted:I'd say skip Vallhalla because it's completely vapid other than its aesthetic I enjoyed it, but definitely more for the aesthetic than anything else. It's a shame the sequel got canned. I couldn't get into Coffee Talk.
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Hashihime is pretty good for a BL novel though it's more of a kinetic novel and 2/5 suffers from mandatory BL tropes and are really stupid. You could always get the switch port to get rid of the porn scenes as well.
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fez_machine posted:Is there truly nothing great on Steam that isn't in my wishlist or I already own? I can't trust most steam reviews or vndb past the big 10 because they're full of jacking off hobbyists who write thousands of words praising some of the worst poo poo in the world. It might help if you mentioned what you look for in a visual novel? Are you looking for something that fits squarely within the genre or are you okay with something more VN-adjacent? You looking for a particular setting or art style? Romance, fantasy? Right now, the ones in my own wishlist I've got my eye on are I Was A Teenage Exocolonist (which I guess is VN-adjacent) and Salting the Earth (which looks interesting, but it might be, uh, for specific interests)
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fez_machine posted:Is there truly nothing great on Steam that isn't in my wishlist or I already own? I can't trust most steam reviews or vndb past the big 10 because they're full of jacking off hobbyists who write thousands of words praising some of the worst poo poo in the world. Some other VNs to quench your thirst then: On Steam: Long Live the Queen - You may not consider it a VN, but its a cute raising sim with many branching paths Magical Diary (and its sequel) - More VNy than LLtQ, but depending it still may not make your list. Both are basically a 1st year magical high school sim. Never played it, but Wonderful Everyday is a thing that gets praised in some circles, though it can't really be discussed in this thread. Again, never played it, but some people have said positive things about the Yu-no remake, though reception seems to be mixed. Not on Steam: The Tsukihime remake is cool and I think a fan translation exists? But its PS4 and Switch only, so it may be awkward to apply it. Alternatively, if you know Japanese, you can just play it normally. In case you have never played Fata Stay Night and the other associated VNs, you should! If you never have played the Infinity games, you should. Every 17 and Remember 11 are at least worth playing. Never 7 is safely skippable, and I don't know anything about the last 2 releases. I've never played FMD: Muramasa, but people say positive things about it. There is an official version on GOG that removes the H-scenes so I think it is safely discussable in this thread.
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I'm pretty omnivorous. I like good quality interactive fiction of all kinds. However, I'm not really interested in the short romance western VN makers put out (nor really most romance VNs anyway, I like a little bit more meat on the bone). I'm pretty across most indie and western interactive fiction generally but it's far easier to tell relative quality from reviews and descriptions with those than VNs in translation specifically. The stuff on my wishlist are those games that have something that stops me from converting, usually price or a negative review about poor quality translation or writing. I Was A Teenage Exocolonist is pretty good but suffers from the flaws most trait/time management games do, mainly that it's more easy than not to screw yourself out of a truly satisfying narrative. I had the same experience playing Road Warden.
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13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim is a hybrid visual novel/strategy game. Not on Steam though, only PS4 and Switch. If you are into male gay visual novels instead of all the cutesy lesbian ones, there's Dream Daddy, Coming Out On Top and Boyfriend Dungeon. edit: some others not mentioned - Eliza is a good visual novel, though a bit short - Angels With Scaly Wings is a somewhat horny furry noir detective mystery - Aviary Attorney is an Ace Attorney-like with classical bird illustrations - Doki Doki Literature Club is really short, but pretty good - Hatoful Boyfriend is a dating sim with birds - Murder By Numbers is a hybrid visual novel/picross detective game - Overboard! is maybe not technically a visual novel, more a CYOA where you have to get away with murder There are also lots of games tagged with Visual Novel on Steam that don't fit the normal visual novel format and is more adventure games: Emily Is Away, Emily Is Away Too, To The Moon, Finding Paradise, Impostor Factory, Her Story, Kentucky Route Zero, looK INside, Quarantine Circular, Subsurface Circular, Replica, Detective Grimoire, Tangle Tower, What Remains of Edit Finch ymgve fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:I'd say skip Vallhalla because it's completely vapid other than its aesthetic I agree with this, I couldn't make it through even more than an hour of it couldn't put my finger on why but the writing just seemed really amateurish the aesthetic was good though I enjoyed the music and such Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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fez_machine posted:On Wishlist: Skip Head AS Code and go straight to Birth ME Code. Yes, the latter is a sequel to the former, but the former is total garbage (and kind of borders on incel poo poo) and you don't really need it to follow anything. Walla posted:I enjoyed it, but definitely more for the aesthetic than anything else. It's a shame the sequel got canned. Wait, Nirvanna was officially canned? Oh no 
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:Skip Head AS Code and go straight to Birth ME Code. Yes, the latter is a sequel to the former, but the former is total garbage (and kind of borders on incel poo poo) and you don't really need it to follow anything. I'd say skip Birth ME Code too, considering one of the characters is a pure trans panic caricature, a guy who dresses as a girl to get access to girls and violate them
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:Wait, Nirvanna was officially canned? Oh no Not officially canned, but it was delayed indefinitely 2 years ago and the latest news is that it's still years from release. At this point I'm just considering it vaporware until it appears.
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Similarly, I thought that the sequel for Coffee Talk was going to be canned after the sad news of one of the co-creators passing away suddenly, but seems like they're still chugging along for a mid-2023 release.
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:Skip Head AS Code and go straight to Birth ME Code. Yes, the latter is a sequel to the former, but the former is total garbage (and kind of borders on incel poo poo) and you don't really need it to follow anything. ymgve posted:I'd say skip Birth ME Code too, considering one of the characters is a pure trans panic caricature, a guy who dresses as a girl to get access to girls and violate them Yikes! Guess I'm taking that off my wishlist
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:Skip Head AS Code and go straight to Birth ME Code. Yes, the latter is a sequel to the former, but the former is total garbage (and kind of borders on incel poo poo) and you don't really need it to follow anything. ymgve posted:I'd say skip Birth ME Code too, considering one of the characters is a pure trans panic caricature, a guy who dresses as a girl to get access to girls and violate them ironically, this is actually part of why I LPd both of them, so people could get the interesting ZE-y stuff while not having to buy the games themselves considering, uh, this content  The creator apologized for that second one after a few people pulled them aside and went 'hey uh why the gently caress did you do that' (and released a game update that rewrote some of the narration/dialogue to try to "salvage" that character) but like.... its still hosed lolthis is also why i'll still LP the third game just for a sense of closure even if there are much better indie ZE-likes out there
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Mix. posted:there are much better indie ZE-likes out there Can you point me in the direction of some? I basically only know about the ME Code series and Your Turn To Die
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ymgve posted:Can you point me in the direction of some? I basically only know about the ME Code series and Your Turn To Die well, the big one (that i'm biased towards cos I'm LPing it) is zodiac trial, mostly because the writer actually loving knows how to write interesting characters and doesn't drag their feet lol if you're more interested in death games that lean closer to werewolf, there's gnosia (which is basically a werewolf roguelike where an overarching narrative is told over many, many time loops) or raging loop (incredibly good, and once you beat the game you unlock a special mode that lets you replay the game but read everyone's thoughts and see what some of the non-protagonist characters are doing when they're "offscreen" from his perspective) there's also exit/corners, but it's not on steam, it's browser-based there's a bunch of others that are still in development that I have tabs on so I can't really rec games that don't exist yet but there's actually a pretty thriving OEVLN scene, which is good for someone that wants to LP some of the stuff that's currently being worked on.there's also a VN coming out in 2023 that's being published by NISA that's basically a death game but all the "players" are detectives specializing in specific investigation methods/fields; I heard it was super derivative (i mean, the protagonist is literally just the detective from danganronpa V3 lol) but that's never stopped me from enjoying something before so I'm still excited for its localization if you want to get into some stuff that's more connected to uchikoshi, the zero escape creator, there's obviously the infinity series that he was involved with pre-ZE, but there's also the game root double, which was written by another of the main infinity creators (i think it was the producer? dont quote me on that.) that's closer to the infinity setup of 'a group of people are trapped in a dangerous place and have to figure out how they're going to escape, but its not an actual death game' type story
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ymgve posted:I'd say skip Birth ME Code too, considering one of the characters is a pure trans panic caricature, a guy who dresses as a girl to get access to girls and violate them Oh, Jesus. I had not gotten to that in my playthrough 
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ymgve posted:Can you point me in the direction of some? I basically only know about the ME Code series and Your Turn To Die If you enjoy the adventure game puzzles and metaphysics-concepts aspect of 999 but don't care as much about the death-game aspect, check out Abyss of the Sacrifice. But make sure you track down a walkthrough because the puzzles range from sensible to "I don't even slightly understand this even WITH a walkthrough". Buried Stars, which as I've mentioned is on a good discount and I've just bought, is also I think supposed to have some death game elements to it? Or possibly just a murder mystery. I am not 100% sure because I don't want to revisit all the reviews at the moment because I intend to play it, I just know I had it on my list as "somewhat danganronpa, supposed to be good". Slight tangent: I was gifted a free copy of Yurukill. Reviews seem very mixed. Has anyone here played it? gegi fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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I played some of Yurukill’s demo and while there were definitely aspects I liked, the first(?) viewpoint character struck me as aggressively milquetoast and the first big plot twist is foreshadowed so heavily that his inability to catch on and read the situation grated on me a whole lot.
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I feel like a big problem with my already huge list was that I didn't include every conceivable thing that could be classified as a VN when asking for a recommendation, because most of my responses to the following are going to be I own it.MegaZeroX posted:Some other VNs to quench your thirst then: I have all three, all are really interesting games in their own way. MegaZeroX posted:Never played it, but Wonderful Everyday is a thing that gets praised in some circles, though it can't really be discussed in this thread. Wonderful Everyday looks to edgy for my tastes, I have it ignored on Steam. Someone played through the original Yu-no while commentating in this thread and it didn't exactly make me want to play the remake. MegaZeroX posted:Not on Steam: I've tracked down copies of The Infinity games and I'm excited to try playing them based on various people's recommendations. Fate/Stay Night is forever in the maybe pile, hopefully it'll come to Steam and get a discount one day. Muramasa is a another one people say positive things about but feels like a maybe, if it ever gets a steep discount on GOG or manages to come to Steam, I might check it out. I'll keep an eye out for Tsukihime if it comes PC/English-ward. ymgve posted:13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim is a hybrid visual novel/strategy game. Not on Steam though, only PS4 and Switch. Still need to finish 13 Sentinels, I feel like it did a lot right but is a little bound by making everyone a high schooler. ymgve posted:If you are into male gay visual novels instead of all the cutesy lesbian ones, there's Dream Daddy, Coming Out On Top and Boyfriend Dungeon. Lmao Dream Daddy and Boyfriend Dungeon feel real cutsey to me. Although Boyfriend Dungeon has a neat hook even if the follow through might be lacking. Anyway, I don't own any of these because the combination of both western and pure romance VN is always a red flag for me. ymgve posted:edit: some others not mentioned Look I'm just going to highlight all the games I own that I didn't list because they didn't feel like they were VN enough for me. They're mostly worth checking out for people following along. I've bought Look Inside 1 and 2 (I love oblique story telling). Thank you! Edit: oof the translations are rough, the gameplay is pretty janky/buggy, the V.O often feels like a first take (some noticeable words skips) and at a base level the writing/construction of characters feels kind of amateurish. That said it looks great and the gameplay ideas are neat. fez_machine fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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MegaZeroX posted:Never played it, but Wonderful Everyday is a thing that gets praised in some circles, though it can't really be discussed in this thread. Subahibi is...very controversial. From what I understand, there's a lot of it you'll just want to skip through, the author basically included the most degenerate content because a friend told him to and he thought the idea was funny, and there's an absolutely massive amount of edgy shock content in there. If you can survive that, I understand people like it!
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fez_machine posted:Lmao Dream Daddy and Boyfriend Dungeon feel real cutsey to me. Although Boyfriend Dungeon has a neat hook even if the follow through might be lacking. Anyway, I don't own any of these because the combination of both western and pure romance VN is always a red flag for me. dream daddy is alright with some funny moments but its pretty shallow yeah, the content unique to each character's route is real short (like sub one hour each) i backed boyfriend dungeon on kickstarter but i was pretty disappointed, having a generic 'pick your dialog' self insert main character made the romances feel even more shallow than dream daddy... also, it wanted to do a 'the dungeons represent your main character's psychology and fear' thing which, again, falls completely flat with a generic self-insert person it didn't help that on release there were only two (2) dungeons, they've released a free content patch since with more characters and an extra dungeon. good on them but i don't really feel any compulsion to give it another try
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Tired Moritz posted:Is Paradise Killer good Yes. If you like Phoenix Wright and exploring a single large 3d world doing collectathon type stuff and finding out of the way clues then it's really fun. The ending fizzles but everything leading up to it is both memorable and enjoyable.
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Tired Moritz posted:Is Paradise Killer good hell yeah it is fwiw its much more about the exploration, vibes, and hosed up dead god cultist world than mystery solving; being thorough enough in your exploration basically solves the entire thing for you and makes the courtroom sequence just you stating the obvious. it's a fun ride to get there at least, and boy does it have banging tunes and evocative flavor text fez_machine posted:Yes. If you like Phoenix Wright and exploring a single large 3d world doing collectathon type stuff and finding out of the way clues then it's really fun. The ending fizzles but everything leading up to it is both memorable and enjoyable. do not play paradise killer if you are looking for something close to phoenix wright tbh
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Anyone who is into VNs knows full well the overt problems the medium has and why this thread has to be all-ages to work correctly. Subahibi seems to have all the same problems as the worst of the industry But an enormous difference is that Subahibi is trying to be - and mostly succeeds at being - a work of art. It's somewhat like the difference between a b-movie and an art film, and how the latter can sometimes take the tropes and cliches of the former and reframe them in a way that doesn't feel sleazy or cheap. Said another way, there's a greater purpose to the extreme content other than shock value, which isn't always true of VNs It's almost surely going to provoke a strong reaction out of you, good or bad, and that's pretty special imo. The specifics are way outside the purview of this thread, but I think it's worth at least checking out if there are no deal breakers for you. Definitely check its content warnings first
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Having played the original, I really can't recommend Yu-No. The story up until you have all the magic power orbs is pretty good, it's just that after you get all of them that they move from prompting questions to answering them, at which point the scenario writer(s) reveal their incredible admiration of Mr. Sigmund Freud and his theories wrt your hidden desires to gently caress your parents and/or children. Not, like, once or twice, and I don't mean Freudian in the sense of "lots of phallic imagery." They are comprehensive about it.
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You lose very little if you simply uninstall the game with prejudice as soon as you make it to Dela Grante. The first part is mostly cool poo poo with some dumb poo poo tossed in, the second part is a few gems in an ocean of poo poo. It is rushed like hell, fully linear, awkwardly paced, and attempting to tackle themes and ideas that the writers are fully incapable of dealing with.
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