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Soul Dentist posted:That could be hundreds of miles for all I know!! its the opposite, about 50 miles
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Carthag Tuek posted:there are irl public toilets in denmark but back in 00 or 01 i was taking the last train to a new years eve party, about 10-10:30pm and i really had to piss, like 5 min emergency. the train toilets were locked off since the 90s & i didnt feel right about pissing on the floor so i went up to the engine and asked the guy if he could hold up for a minute so i could step out and take a leak. he was like "no way im stopping, im going home after. you can step out and watch me leave or piss out the door" so alright, i slid open a door and held it with my shoulder while i drunkenly pissed out into the forest at 50 mph. cold air and sleet made me feel sober for a minute but i absolutely wasnt. for some reason i did not fall out the train & get cut in half by a tree, so i got back to the engine & thanked the man. ten minutes later we were at our destination, fresh and energized except the friend who invited me had gone to bed You just posted the most Danish thing, this should be framed in the local museum for trains as an example for future generations
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Nov 26, 2022 03:12
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barbecue at the folks posted:You just posted the most Danish thing, this should be framed in the local museum for trains as an example for future generations eh i would say its general european. probably canada would fit, too. anywhere that has trains and forests really
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Nov 26, 2022 04:17
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It would be more Danish if it involved bicycles, red brick buildings, and racism.
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Nov 26, 2022 04:35
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Alhazred posted:In an alternate, some would say better, timeline the cycloped (a train powered by horses) from 1829 beat trains powered by steam: the logistics of this are very fun to think about
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Nov 26, 2022 04:49
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I just keep imagining the horse walking, then stopping when the train starts moving to ride it, then walking again when it stops, over and over again in this lurching farce
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Nov 26, 2022 04:56
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Hedningen posted:Makes sense - a lot of the poetry of the era was remarkably vulgar. He’s no Bellman, but ol’ Stiernhielm could get nice and bawdy when he felt like it. Maybe even better, it was during a baptism, drunk as hell he had beef with some Wrangel boys and his right wrist was ruined by a rapier. Falukorv has a new favorite as of 05:31 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Nov 26, 2022 05:22
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Brawnfire posted:I just keep imagining the horse walking, then stopping when the train starts moving to ride it, then walking again when it stops, over and over again in this lurching farce I'm just imagining how awkward it would be when it takes off
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Nov 26, 2022 05:30
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It can't take off on a treadmill
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Nov 26, 2022 05:33
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Azhais posted:I'm just imagining how awkward it would be when it takes off you'd need horse teams to pull it to get the machine up to speed, and the machine itself would have to preserve energy and use it carefully, so in that era of technology we're talking about flywheels and gearboxes, we're also talking about grooms for the horses and resting time for both grooms and horses, space for all of that we're talking about huge carriage trains just to keep going and regular stops to take on feed and water and let off manure
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Nov 26, 2022 06:05
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I mean, okay, but instead we just spent a couple centuries burning fossil fuels and now the globe is on fire. I think I'd prefer the awkward horsy caravan thing 
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Nov 26, 2022 06:17
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Wasn't one of the reasons the car was invented because by that time cities were basically filled with manure and dying horses on the streets?
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Nov 26, 2022 07:04
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the engine of this thing would resemble a very complex horse hotel and racetrack
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The largest rail operator in the Netherlands has 2 types of trains. Intercities that only stop at the larger city stations (one stop every 30 mins or so) and 'Sprinters' that stop at every station (every 5 mins). At some point in the early 00s when they were launching their new Sprinter design they said: "people are never on this train longer than 30 mins so we don't need to include on-board toilets". First of all, that's not true. There's plenty of areas where taking a Sprinter for a longer stretch is the most convenient way to get somewhere. And secondly who are you to say people don't need to piss just when they're on board? Especially because station toilets are either locked or expensive. Anyway, the railways responded to the public outrage by going "it's okay. We'll give all our Sprinter conductors access to an emergency stash of baggies to do your business in." This did not improve things. In the end they did another redesign and decided to include toilets this time.
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Carbon dioxide posted:The largest rail operator in the Netherlands has 2 types of trains. Intercities that only stop at the larger city stations (one stop every 30 mins or so) and 'Sprinters' that stop at every station (every 5 mins). For some reason, when I board Dutch trains, is usually when I suddenly need to piss the most.
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Carbon dioxide posted:The largest rail operator in the Netherlands has 2 types of trains. Intercities that only stop at the larger city stations (one stop every 30 mins or so) and 'Sprinters' that stop at every station (every 5 mins). Toilets are a new luxury in some the train networks here in australa, here in brisbane the goto was to shut yourself between the two sets of gangway doors and piss on the concertina cover between the carriages, years ago getting off at a station used to be no help at all since most stops outside the inner city were unstaffed and had the toilets boarded up to keep the homeless out.
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Molentik posted:Wasn't one of the reasons the car was invented because by that time cities were basically filled with manure and dying horses on the streets?
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The sleeper “roomette” rooms (the smallest rooms two people can lay down and sleep in) on the american long distance trains are not much better People wonder why train’s are not used more in the USA (this is AMTRAK) btw Chopstix has a new favorite as of 11:11 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Nov 26, 2022 10:42
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Bring back corridor coaches.
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Nov 26, 2022 10:47
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Chopstix posted:The sleeper rooms (the smallest rooms two people can lay down and sleep in) on the american long distance trains are not much better You just ..sit next to the shitter the whole time?
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Nov 26, 2022 10:59
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Yeah man, good news too, you can have an audience with you since the other passenger is directly across from you. Also, i may be mistaken but I dont think you have a door to your room, only a curtain.
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Nov 26, 2022 11:06
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Yeah that's insane. At least the shitter on a Greyhound bus has a door. That's worse than a prison cell. What is that, Amtrak? I've always wanted to take The Canadian, VIA Rail's westbound cross-country train ride. The cabins look reasonable and there's even (sometimes) a car with a bubble observation deck - although I understand you're not really seeing much until you get into the mountains in the west. It's also exorbitantly expensive, but that's the kind of trip I'd love to spring for. gently caress being packed in like sardines next to some unmasked idiot with a crying baby and having your ears pop, trains are classy and luxurious.
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Chopstix posted:The sleeper “roomette” rooms (the smallest rooms two people can lay down and sleep in) on the american long distance trains are not much better Lmfao. That is dire as gently caress.
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Nov 26, 2022 11:28
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How on earth is plumbing in X different toilets easier than having 1-2 per carriage? Who is that for?! Who wants that?! Edit: apart from scat fetishists or something.
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Nov 26, 2022 11:56
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Chopstix posted:The sleeper “roomette” rooms (the smallest rooms two people can lay down and sleep in) on the american long distance trains are not much better sorry, my knees!
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Chopstix posted:The sleeper “roomette” rooms (the smallest rooms two people can lay down and sleep in) on the american long distance trains are not much better how the gently caress lmao
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Nov 26, 2022 14:31
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Chopstix posted:Yeah man, good news too, you can have an audience with you since the other passenger is directly across from you. They have locking doors. The newer sleeping cars have gotten rid of the in room shitter for a couple of shared one in the car. That's also the smallest sleeping car compartment. The next size up has a toilet in a sepate room.
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Weembles posted:They have locking doors. The newer sleeping cars have gotten rid of the in room shitter for a couple of shared one in the car. They might be better now, but that doesn't excuse the fact that someone (in fact a lot of people) thought that travesty was a good idea.
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Roblo posted:They might be better now, but that doesn't excuse the fact that someone (in fact a lot of people) thought that travesty was a good idea. Alternatively, they didn't think it was a good idea. They thought it was a cheap idea.
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Chopstix posted:The sleeper “roomette” rooms (the smallest rooms two people can lay down and sleep in) on the american long distance trains are not much better Even with that I'd consider taking a train other than one tiny issue   So I can spend 120 hours and $2000 round trip with three train swaps to visit my brother, or $1200 and 8.5 hours to fly first class (or like $200 to fly Southwest business class) And even if you're one of those "but the experience  " types it's still like 12 hours faster to just drive and experience anything I want on the wayPassenger trains need a ground up rebuild to be useful here
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Azhais posted:Even with that I'd consider taking a train other than one tiny issue Most of the momentum around building back passenger rail that I've seen has been around shorter routes connecting cities in the same region. St Paul to SF will always be a long trip but that shouldn't stop us from getting more than one train a day between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.
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Mister Speaker posted:Yeah that's insane. At least the shitter on a Greyhound bus has a door. That's worse than a prison cell. What is that, Amtrak?  You can look forward to a lot of this in the prairies before you hit the mountains
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Poops Mcgoots posted:Alternatively, they didn't think it was a good idea. They thought it was a cheap idea. Well that's what I was trying to say earlier. I can't see how it's cheaper than just plumbing in 2 toilets per carriage. That's a lot more services/pipes under the floor etc. Let alone the increased running costs due to all the cleaning. No one wins.
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You're assuming they actually have plumbing. Who knows what might be considered a cost-cutting opportunity.
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It was probably just a part of the cheapest overall contract bid that fulfilled the stated needs. So it's both not the cost efficient way and also selected for it's cheapness
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Soul Dentist posted:It was probably just a part of the cheapest overall contract bid that fulfilled the stated needs. So it's both not the cost efficient way and also selected for it's cheapness But probably marketed as an expensive "private sleeper cabin with full amenities."
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Azhais posted:Even with that I'd consider taking a train other than one tiny issue Yeah, I was on the similar boat; I have plenty of leave and time to burn, and I would happily spend it sleeping and being comfortable playing video games if it was way cheaper, but it is not, especially for long distance. It seems more feasible doing something like, d While a viewing car and dining car seems fine, I can’t help but feel like it’s just expenses and additional costs/potential savings gone to waste. I believe the only real benefits of taking the train and visiting your brother is that #1 you can bring a vehicle on the train #2, I assume it would be easier for a pet (but where would they use the bathroom?). Maybe a moving situation. Trying to “re-rail” back onto the topic of historical facts, apparently old west trains used “hopper” toilets where they just dumped it onto the tracks, and it is still being done that way in England apparently https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/03/uk-railway-firms-faiil-to-clean-up-waste-dumping-act
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Chopstix posted:Yeah, I was on the similar boat; I have plenty of leave and time to burn, and I would happily spend it sleeping and being comfortable playing video games if it was way cheaper, but it is not, especially for long distance. It seems more feasible doing something like, d While a viewing car and dining car seems fine, I can’t help but feel like it’s just expenses and additional costs/potential savings gone to waste. Although it seems super backwards (it is) its not as much of an issue as it might seem. I dont think many trains do it these days so its not like there is poo poo everywhere, well no more than normal anyway. Apparently it used to mean lots of tomato plants grew inbetween the rails from all the BLT sandwiches people had eaten on trains.
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Chopstix posted:Yeah, I was on the similar boat; I have plenty of leave and time to burn, and I would happily spend it sleeping and being comfortable playing video games if it was way cheaper, but it is not, especially for long distance. It seems more feasible doing something like, d While a viewing car and dining car seems fine, I can’t help but feel like it’s just expenses and additional costs/potential savings gone to waste. They banned that poo poo like 30 years ago here in norway but I remember flushing the train toilet aa a child over and over again just to see the tracks speed by through the shitter lol
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