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they should just print better versions of them. a mox that costs -1 so you gain a mana when it's played. a black lotus that doesn't sacrifice. an ancestral recall that lets you draw every card from every deck. how can these people even call themselves card designers if they evidently can't design a card more strongly than some cards made up last century. if they print a stronger power 9 people wouldnt be mad about the 1,000 dollar thing anymore
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I'm still waiting on my 1CMC rock that taps for {C}.
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AlternateNu posted:I'm still waiting on my 1CMC rock that taps for {C}. man wait till you hear about this one that taps for {c}{c} evilweasel fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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Grifter posted:I had to ask him to rewind at one point. I had hit his Combat Thresher with my Static Net. Later, I attacked with an Argothian Opportunist. He disenchanted the Net after I declared my attackers, drew a card, blocked my creature and said "Opportunist is dead". I cast a Gaea's Gift (great card) to prevent the death, but it would have been nice if he had given me an opportunity to react before he drew his card because once he did if we ended up interacting with one another there was no way to know which cards he drew when. I play fast, and still find time to put my abilities on the stack before resolving them.
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AlternateNu posted:I'm still waiting on my 1CMC rock that taps for {C}. Sol Earring 1 Etb tapped, t:add C
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AlternateNu posted:I'm still waiting on my 1CMC rock that taps for {C}. There's Six of them already that cost zero
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Lol no proxies. That would upset the true grognards like Randy Buehler. We have enough techlords here and enough people affiliated with the company to pull off the real deal. It’s kind of a wonder the shop has never been held up actually. who would the robbers sell the cards to, everyone who would could buy the cards is in that room
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Nov 27, 2022 04:51
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the signets and talismans (and reverse engineered Felwar Stone!) clearly demonstrate you can replicate any (reasonable) land by making it a 2 mana artifact that's right, we need Shock Rocks
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Goa Tse-tung posted:the signets and talismans (and reverse engineered Felwar Stone!) clearly demonstrate you can replicate any (reasonable) land by making it a 2 mana artifact The sad thing is Gavin "I Have No loving Clue" Verhey and Sheldon "Games Should Last 4 Hours" Menery are trying to put the genie back in the bottle by not making any more 2-drop rocks and trying to sell people on 3-drops and it ain't workin'. Who could have guessed?
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Syenite posted:Custom cards ARE fun in tcgs but somehow I don't think the poster is being genuine in their bafflement. Where does this come from? I have literally, literally never once posted a bad faith troll on the internet. I hate people who do that
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Talking of multiplayer though, when we used to do multiplayer magic back in the 90s, we always did "attack left" instead of "politics". When and why did that change? Does anybody still do Attack Left?
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precision posted:Where does this come from? I have literally, literally never once posted a bad faith troll on the internet. I hate people who do that You claim to play a lot and in a lot of formats, and yet have absolutely no knowledge of casual play, lower power levels, or the concept of having fun. Your enormous jump from “competitive” to “literally not playing the game and just making poo poo up” comes off as so unbelievable that people think you’re just trolling.
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I mean it's already a solved problem.quote:Mox ______ (0)
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generatrix posted:You claim to play a lot and in a lot of formats, and yet have absolutely no knowledge of casual play, lower power levels, or the concept of having fun. Your enormous jump from “competitive” to “literally not playing the game and just making poo poo up” comes off as so unbelievable that people think you’re just trolling. I haven't played MTG in person with anybody since like 2001. The Magic threads on here are the only source I have for all extra game information. I generally ignore like, everything but the cards. There are a lot of people like me, who don't know any of this weird extra narrative info. Blame MTGO or Arena, I guess
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precision posted:Talking of multiplayer though, when we used to do multiplayer magic back in the 90s, we always did "attack left" instead of "politics". When and why did that change? Does anybody still do Attack Left? Free-for-all is how the rules work for multiple opponents, and some abilities like goad and melee only really work in the context of it.
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I'm fairly certain I've never claimed to play in a lot of formats I've played the game since Beta. In the 90s I played paper a lot. I stopped playing paper in 1997 and didn't play Magic at all between 98 and 2001 when I got an MTGO account I did not know a single person who played MTGO or paper back then, because I was a stupid hipster and this was before it was seen as acceptable for cool serious people to play silly games. In retrospect, that was a pretty silly cultural time. You could get dumped for letting your partner see your game boy! I played MTGO very casually because I was super busy with life until like 2009, then drifted away I came back with Duels of the PWs in 2010 or 2011 and only played that until Arena Arena has represented the first time I've really "kept up" with the game I hope that answers many questions!
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I'm not sure actually admitting that you have zero idea what you're talking about after making a dismissive claim about EDH is a good tactic but hey
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Charity Porno posted:I'm not sure actually admitting that you have zero idea what you're talking about after making a dismissive claim about EDH is a good tactic but hey I haven't intended to make any claims I'm dropping this now, it seems clear this is one of those internet situations where people have already made up their mind how they'll talk to me, and literally nothing I say can change that I'm truly sorry guys. Jeez
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Trust me, I'm just a stupid dumbass, not a malicious troll
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precision posted:I'm fairly certain I've never claimed to play in a lot of formats precision posted:I love two headed giant, I love archenemy, I love the idea of multiplayer magic.
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I'm half way to scrubbing out of a 5k. I am going to say it: I do not like modern right now.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Lol no proxies. That would upset the true grognards like Randy Buehler. We have enough techlords here and enough people affiliated with the company to pull off the real deal. It’s kind of a wonder the shop has never been held up actually.  that's absolutely insaneI'm pretty decently setup at the moment, I can't imagine how much money I'd need to have in order to want to buy into vintage. Even legacy is way too expensive for me to justify, and the P9 cards cost more than entire legacy decks period
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what happens when that kind of grognard are upset? I haven't had any bad LGS/mtg experiences yet.like, just be a jerk during the match, or refuse to play, or make some commotion about it? I'm trying to imagine it and the person mad because their dual land cost 800 bucks and someone else's cost 3 and it seems like the 800 dollar guy would be the weirdo in the situation.
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Khanstant posted:what happens when that kind of grognard are upset? I haven't had any bad LGS/mtg experiences yet.like, just be a jerk during the match, or refuse to play, or make some commotion about it? I'm trying to imagine it and the person mad because their dual land cost 800 bucks and someone else's cost 3 and it seems like the 800 dollar guy would be the weirdo in the situation. What are you even talking about? If you brought fake cards to a real tournament and someone caught it, you'd be disqualified. Those are the rules.
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Which is why people should buy really good counterfeits and not mark them so they can help their local legacy scene grow. Legacy is fun
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Time posted:Which is why people should buy really good counterfeits and not mark them so they can help their local legacy scene grow. Legacy is fun 
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Time posted:Which is why people should buy really good counterfeits and not mark them so they can help their local legacy scene grow. Legacy is fun Some players REALLY care about what they spent on their cardboard. Very much FYGM. I would rather just play magic.
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precision posted:Talking of multiplayer though, when we used to do multiplayer magic back in the 90s, we always did "attack left" instead of "politics". When and why did that change? Does anybody still do Attack Left? "Attack Left" was a house rule your group decided to run with, because that's what you all liked. Commander defaults to "free-for-all" or "chaos" as it was sometimes referred to in the early days of tcgs. Politics is just something that comes up organically in a free-for-all multiplayer environment, and you as an individual player are free to go along with it if it suits you, or simply ignore it and focus on trying to win by outplaying the rest of the table. Regardless, Commander is not just people making things up as they go, and your labeling it as "Calvinball" comes across as you being rudely dismissive because it doesn't take into account that a lot of time and thought goes into deck construction, and that piloting these 100 card singleton decks takes a surprising amount of careful planning and skill because of how many potential interactions there are between such a huge pool of cards from across 30 years of the game's history. The whole point of the format is finding an interesting Legendary creature and saying, "Can I build a cool deck based around this card's abilities that does something awesome within the limitations of the format? And if I do, can I win with it against all these other crazy decks out there?"
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W.T. Fits posted:"Attack Left" was a house rule your group decided to run with No it's not, that's how multiplayer magic worked back in the ye olde times
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Rutibex posted:No it's not, that's how multiplayer magic worked back in the ye olde times You can take a break from being wrong about everything in every thread, you know. This was never the rule.
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Why do you all aspire to be the biggest assholes possible in this thread
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Toshimo posted:You can take a break from being wrong about everything in every thread, you know. This was never the rule. oh bless your heart  Here I will let Magic the Gathering creator Richard Garfield explain why Commander is actually a bad format: 
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A big flaming stink posted:Why do you all aspire to be the biggest assholes possible in this thread 90% of the shittiness comes from the same 4-5 posters. At this point it's clear it'll never change so might as well just ignore 'em
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A big flaming stink posted:Why do you all aspire to be the biggest assholes possible in this thread Be an Ajani in a multiverse of Jaces
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Charity Porno posted:Be an Ajani in a multiverse of Jaces ... Oh no. Your don't know, do you?
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HootTheOwl posted:... Oh no. Your don't know, do you? Pre compleation!
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Rutibex posted:oh bless your heart What book is this from
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Rutibex posted:oh bless your heart I don't know what point you are trying to make but you're being dumb as hell as you try to make it.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:What book is this from The Characteristics of Games, page 48. Its a really good read, though you can get most of the content by searching youtube for "Richard Garfield Lecture" https://www.amazon.com/Characteristics-Games-George-Skaff-Elias/dp/0262542692/
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Rutibex posted:oh bless your heart This is extremely reductive and frankly disingenuous. With that logic, 2 player magic is just taking chips back and forth too. Even then, commander is much more nuanced than that as it adds a social element to the game that Garfield isn't acknowledging here.
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