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https://twitter.com/EITC_Official/status/1594885357937778688?t=-j_5IeXGJzOGpyDsNS7Jiw&s=19 gee what a win for TeamRed!11!1!
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BornAPoorBlkChild posted:https://twitter.com/EITC_Official/status/1594885357937778688?t=-j_5IeXGJzOGpyDsNS7Jiw&s=19 It's got an OK beat but you can't really dance to it.
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The copiate of the masses?
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Man this guy is chasing his own shadows. Pure strain anti intellectualism right here. https://twitter.com/EITC_Official/status/1596343840608522243?t=l4ziAh9Ad7eVQ7QITupZMg&s=19
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# ? Nov 26, 2022 21:19 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Is that really new though Also the concept of RWM and conservative republicans being all in on worrying about nepotism is pretty rich. And, of course, it's really something to see the news outlets that are the only ones that almost half the people in this country trust or even watch suddenly caring about it now that the GOP won the midterms. They're very very concerned about Biden's family and think it's just horrible that any president would jeopardize national security like that by putting Hunter in official charge of foreign relations, since that would be terrible. But let's all get back to the business of creating a monarchy, like the founding fathers intended, led by the Trumps. ...edited for some really terrible writing BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:What's interesting is that if the Tucker Carlson's of the world continue this kind of behavior, they are likely going to continue losing elections. You are starting to see it some conservative media, there are less stories about Trump but you've got so many idiots on conservative media and in Congress that are going to keep rooting for MAGA Morons. As time goes on, these folks will become less popular. Yes, they'll be popular but only with their own base. That's not enough to win elections. never thought i'd live to see the day when "independents" actually acted like independents. legit staggering numbers
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Panfilo posted:Man this guy is chasing his own shadows. Pure strain anti intellectualism right here. Why did he rip off the Game THeory logo for his bullshit?
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Neito posted:Why did he rip off the Game THeory logo for his bullshit? got a pull in morons in someshow.
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# ? Nov 27, 2022 05:22 |
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Nice piece about just how weird the right is becoming: https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicansquote:West’s bizarre fascination with the imagery of medieval Europe does not exist in a vacuum: The right is getting weirder. That might begin to cost Republicans elections in years to come and undermine their own appeals to American patriotism in a way policy extremism alone could not. American voters see the political parties as equally extreme in policy, ignoring evidence that Republicans have moved right much faster than Democrats have moved left. However, a party fixated on genital sunning, seed oils, Catholic integralism, European aristocracy, and occultism can alienate voters not because of its positions but because of how it presents them—and itself. Among the right’s intellectual avant garde and media elites, there is a growing adoption of habits, aesthetics, and views that are not only out of step with America’s but are deliberately cultivated in opposition to a national majority that the new right holds in contempt. Also, Pew Research updated their survey of American religious identity and woo boy Christianity is taking a nose dive: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/09/13/modeling-the-future-of-religion-in-america/ In the last thirty years, Americans have gone from 90% identifying as Christian to 63%. It's astonishing. And it's age-related - people under 50 are less Christian than that, and people under 25 are even less Christian. One of the earliest, bitterest political lessons I learned in my life was that the numbers don't lie, This Is A Christian Nation, and that puts a hard limit of how fast any kind of progress can be made (and also provides an enormous permanent constituency for counter-progress). But if these numbers hold true (and that Pew article has a number of efforts trying to model how this trend tracks into the future), very soon this will not be a Christian country - possibly even in my lifetime! This is an astonishing, tectonic change and it gets almost zero public consideration.
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FMguru posted:Nice piece about just how weird the right is becoming: https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicans It's strangely appropriate that the unabatedly emergent modern neo Nazi right has its own equally emergent Thule Society of alchemist mystic weirdos obsessed with blood and magic and semen.
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FMguru posted:In the last thirty years, Americans have gone from 90% identifying as Christian to 63%. It's astonishing. And it's age-related - people under 50 are less Christian than that, and people under 25 are even less Christian. It doesn't surprise me too much. I should identify as Christian. I was raised Christian and my father took me to church frequently where I had nothing but good experiences. I also work in a relatively more conservative industry with a lot of Christians around. However, right-wing politics have inextricably welded themselves to the church and vice-versa. If I tell someone I'm Christian, the first impression they have of me is that I will hate LGBT people. The second impression is that I will likely dislike brown people. And with the recent Q-poo poo infesting evangelical communities, they'll probably also assume I'm into several different mutually exclusive conspiracy theories. And the thing is, a lot of Jesus's teachings are good (and I mean Jesus specifically, not Paul, not the old testament stuff). "Love thy neighbor" is a really good thing to tell people. We should accept and welcome people who aren't like us. We should take care of those less fortunate. We should heal those who are sick, feed those who are hungry, and generally prioritize the general welfare. But that's not what evangelical Christians stand for, and those teachings run directly counter to the way that they vote and the positions that they publicly support. So people like me are driven away from the church because gently caress being associated with those assholes.
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FMguru posted:Nice piece about just how weird the right is becoming: https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicans I think this is a big deal but also the “demographic shift will save us” thing feels like the same talk 10 years ago about the US no longer being a majority-white nation. It could be an inroad into shifting political mores for the better but also conservatives will find ways to make inroads with the increasing percentage of people who don’t identify as Christian. You can look at the push for anti-trans legislation and policy for evidence of that. They’re doing the same sort of othering that they did with gay people but this time their base of “evidence” is mostly secular and has the same sort of pseudo-science vibe that anti-vaccination pushes have had for years. I think that’s gonna be the line conservatives push in the future, along with an even further fetishization of patriotism (because you can stop believing in God but you can’t stop believing in America).
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Wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross. With regulatory capture and judicial appointments. "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."
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FMguru posted:Nice piece about just how weird the right is becoming: https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicans That's amazing! Clinton becomes president, the religious right welds themselves to the Republicans, Christianity starts to die. I'm getting it ends up stopping at about 30%-40%.
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FMguru posted:Nice piece about just how weird the right is becoming: https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicans The article just mentions them once but I gotta say it: Tradcaths fascinate me because they handle Christianity the same way a white guy with dreadlocks approaches Native American Shamanism.
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Jesus III posted:That's amazing! Clinton becomes president, the religious right welds themselves to the Republicans, Christianity starts to die. I'm getting it ends up stopping at about 30%-40%. Dirk the Average posted:If I tell someone I'm Christian, the first impression they have of me is that I will hate LGBT people. The second impression is that I will likely dislike brown people. And with the recent Q-poo poo infesting evangelical communities, they'll probably also assume I'm into several different mutually exclusive conspiracy theories. Dirk the Average posted:And the thing is, a lot of Jesus's teachings are good (and I mean Jesus specifically, not Paul, not the old testament stuff). "Love thy neighbor" is a really good thing to tell people. We should accept and welcome people who aren't like us. We should take care of those less fortunate. We should heal those who are sick, feed those who are hungry, and generally prioritize the general welfare. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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FMguru posted:Nice piece about just how weird the right is becoming: https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicans Yeah it’s interesting seeing the “intellectual” class of the GOP go full weirdo trad freak wannabe monarchist poo poo where they lust for loving peasant simplicity with big titty peasant virgins/mommy’s and other stupid poo poo. Like I doubt Christianity gets marginalized but I do think hard right Christianity will be.
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OneEightHundred posted:There are a bunch of factors, including the Internet and a bunch of fiascos like the "Intelligent Design" mess. (Although I'm gagging a bit thinking of how the current SCOTUS majority would have ruled on Kitzmiller v. Dover now.) The intelligent design stuff seems pretty dead now outside the religious right. DarklyDreaming posted:The article just mentions them once but I gotta say it: Tradcaths fascinate me because they handle Christianity the same way a white guy with dreadlocks approaches Native American Shamanism. To me they handle it like like I do 40k or other weird nerdy poo poo. They love the lore and world building above all all mixed with freaks like dreher looking for strong daddy.
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Jesus III posted:That's amazing! Clinton becomes president, the religious right welds themselves to the Republicans, Christianity starts to die. I'm getting it ends up stopping at about 30%-40%. I'd stop short of calling it "amazing" but it's encouraging at least. And I don't know if correlation = causation here but, if you wanted to, one could see a pattern relating to the rise of internet usage. Thing is, though, the christian right is going to look at a graph like this and cite it as a reason for why America is going into the shitter, run over by trans and gay folks, pin it to the US not allowing prayer in schools and that we need to find Christ again. Much in the way that they like to try and claim that natural disasters are God striking back - at least when when it suits their narrative. Recall that Pat Robertson and some other TV Christian guy blamed 9/11 on gay people. It's all bullshit and almost entirely a total centuries old regressive con led by people who want to control others while convincing them that tithings make them good people and allow them to buy their way into heaven. Maybe people are catching on that "give me money now and when you DIE, you'll reap the rewards" reeks of total nonsense. But, if I'm being honest, even 63% seems too high for me even though it's encouraging. Last time I checked, the polling still said that Americans would vote for a Muslim over an atheist - and "atheist" comes in last for politicians running for office.
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FMguru posted:One of the earliest, bitterest political lessons I learned in my life was that the numbers don't lie, This Is A Christian Nation, and that puts a hard limit of how fast any kind of progress can be made (and also provides an enormous permanent constituency for counter-progress). But if these numbers hold true (and that Pew article has a number of efforts trying to model how this trend tracks into the future), very soon this will not be a Christian country - possibly even in my lifetime! This is an astonishing, tectonic change and it gets almost zero public consideration. Dapper_Swindler posted:The intelligent design stuff seems pretty dead now outside the religious right.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Hell, even within the Religious Right, they barely talk about Intelligent Design anymore. It was always just a Trojan horse to get creationism into schools, so as soon as they lost Kitzmiller vs. Dover, they dropped their educational freedom pretenses like a hot potato and went right back to preaching that the earth is 6000 years old and anyone who says otherwise is evil. The angle now is teaching evolution violates religious liberty.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:If I had to guess, a good chunk of those "Religiously unaffiliated" people would still identify as Christian if you sat them down individually and had a conversation with them about their worldview. It's just that at this point, "Being a Christian in public" is a completely tarnished brand. "Yes, I believe Jesus died for our sins" is now heavily publicly associated with "By the way, LGBTQ people want to gently caress our kids, we should kick out the Muslims, and women should be forced to give birth no matter what", so I totally understand the reluctance to be a part of that group even by association. Like, yes, there's a definite shift underway, but I wonder how much of that is fueled by actual religious conversion, and how much of it is based around not having the energy to explain that you're Christian, but you're not one of those Christians. On the flip side of this coin I've run into blatantly theocratic Evangelical types who will then claim that they don't have a "religion", they "have a personal relationship with Jesus" as a way of squirming out of whatever legal framework prevents them from carving out special privileges for Christianity in blatant violation of the Constitution.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:The intelligent design stuff seems pretty dead now outside the religious right. Dapper_Swindler posted:Like I doubt Christianity gets marginalized but I do think hard right Christianity will be.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:On the flip side of this coin I've run into blatantly theocratic Evangelical types who will then claim that they don't have a "religion", they "have a personal relationship with Jesus" as a way of squirming out of whatever legal framework prevents them from carving out special privileges for Christianity in blatant violation of the Constitution. I've seen this too. I seem to recall Chick even used it in a number of his insufferable cartoon tracts where it went something like: SINFUL MORON: "Are you religious?" PIUS GOODPERSON: "No, I'm Christian." The idea is what you posit above, but also a way to backhand all other faiths as being markedly lesser than Christianity,* which is a deeply personal walk with the lord etc etc. *here defined by whatever subset or branch the speaker belongs to, and likely not even including all other Christians.
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https://twitter.com/its_the_Dr/status/1596709393932095490?t=glQ__QTfmkzPu5ZF_fj9OA&s=19
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Please don't just post chud accounts without any commentary.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...r-idUSL1N2YH27Q "The photograph was taken in Belarus in June 2005."
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"Yeah, but that'd just because the media won't cover this definitely real phenomenon that I didn't make up"
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Doesn't that passport say "Россия" ("Russia") at the top?
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Doesn't that passport say "Россия" ("Russia") at the top? Having to do some real powerful squinting but yeah it looks like it says Rossiye
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There's a part on the top that got cut off without me realizing it, which says "and just like that, Liberals don't want to punch Nazis anymore". The absurdity of that statement was why I linked it here without comment. It's also consistent with this dig right wingers have against anyone sympathetic to Ukraine. "Ukraine flag in bio" is the new "pronouns in bio", something I'm still trying to understand. My best assumption is that conservatives are so cynical they can't accept the idea of solidarity towards anything. The same people that breathlessly signal "support the troops" believe anyone with that type of enthusiasm towards anything else is just virtue signaling.
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Panfilo posted:It's also consistent with this dig right wingers have against anyone sympathetic to Ukraine. "Ukraine flag in bio" is the new "pronouns in bio", something I'm still trying to understand. My best assumption is that conservatives are so cynical they can't accept the idea of solidarity towards anything. The same people that breathlessly signal "support the troops" believe anyone with that type of enthusiasm towards anything else is just virtue signaling. That, and a whole lot of them are more than casually sympathetic to Russia as Putin's regime is pretty close to what they hoped Trump would manage when it comes to an authoritarian ethnostate with rigidly enforced sexual and gender norms and deeply patriarchal Christianity given free reign.
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Since it came up and we're talking about it, one of my kid's 6th grade teachers told the class that Bill Gates wants to eliminate half the population and was apparently running some of the Q poo poo in class. I told my son it's bullshit and that teachers aren't always right. His mom and me are looking into ways to report this and maybe do something about it but I live in Desantis Land so I am not holding my breath.
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Why did bill gates put so much money into curing malaria if he wants the population cut in half? I mean according to the conspiracy people
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When I was in high school there was a long term substitute turned teacher who was probably like that. The thing I remember about him was he really hated Mike Tyson and there was this running joke about how you could hijack the classroom discussion by asking him his opinion on Mike Tyson. Now, this was around when his rape conviction made news so the teacher's rant was of course intended to come off as "rapists are bad people he should face consequences". But his rant would be so maliciously specific and long winded. At the time we just laughed it off as "wow Mr. Thomas really doesn't like Mike Tyson now that he's a rapist". It was like this (paraphrased) quote:"I hate Mike Tyson, he's a horrible rapist. I swear, they ought to string him up, chop off his cojones, stomp on em, and burn what's left." I could totally imagine that if he got confronted by the principal, like the most tepid" maybe lay off on the Mike Tyson revenge fantasies and stick to the AP European History curriculum" he'd probably flippantly react with "Oh, so you're PRO RAPIST now?".
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Panfilo posted:When I was in high school there was a long term substitute turned teacher who was probably like that. The thing I remember about him was he really hated Mike Tyson and there was this running joke about how you could hijack the classroom discussion by asking him his opinion on Mike Tyson. Now, this was around when his rape conviction made news so the teacher's rant was of course intended to come off as "rapists are bad people he should face consequences". Sorry that your teacher was a virulent racist. Did it leak out in any other ways or was he able to keep it under wraps?
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To be fair, Mike Tyson has done some lovely things. To be more fair, the science around repetitive head trauma has advanced significantly in recent years. To be even more fair, "being bludgeoned to the point of unconsciousness repeatedly is bad for your brain" is not rocket science
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Panfilo posted:There's a part on the top that got cut off without me realizing it, which says "and just like that, Liberals don't want to punch Nazis anymore". The absurdity of that statement was why I linked it here without comment. "Pronouns/Ukrainian flag in bio" is because right wingers are stupid as poo poo so when they're losing an argument they need a way to ignore it while saving face so they pretend that saying it is an argument so they don't have to admit they're stupid Piell fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Nov 28, 2022 |
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Bel Shazar posted:Sorry that your teacher was a virulent racist. Did it leak out in any other ways or was he able to keep it under wraps? Good question, I can't remember. The only thing that stuck out was having this long term substitute that would give his long winded Mike Tyson torture fantasy to anyone that solicited his opinion about the boxer at school. Xand_Man posted:To be fair, Mike Tyson has done some lovely things. Certainly. And if he was talking about it in a cynical "celebrities often get away with things like this and I find I upsetting" that wouldn't raise any red flags but he had to get so... Detailed about what should happen to the guy Piell posted:"Pronouns/Ukrainian flag in bio" is because right wingers are stupid as poo poo so when they're losing an argument they need a way to ignore it while saving face so they pretend that saying it is an argument so they don't have to admit they're stupid You'd think that, but they usually open with that statement, not close with it,which is even more silly. "Biden is a boring centrist" "LOL pronouns in bio. Someone who believes in 57 genders wouldn't know anything about Biden. He's a commie. Also Hunter Bidens laptop " If there was a back and forth that culminated into "Pronouns in bio. Blocked!" then yeah, they're out of ideas. But this phrase is their OPENING Salvo, not their parting one.
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To be fair I've never seen a good tweet from anyone with a Ukraine flag in their name (sports in bio is also apparently an ironclad rule for someone with terrible tweets).freeedr posted:Why did bill gates put so much money into curing malaria if he wants the population cut in half? I mean according to the conspiracy people I assume either denial ("He just wants you to think he did!") or it's just part of the conspiracy, I assume the two major flavors are "The malaria 'cure' has deadly side effects!" or "It was so people would trust him and think he was good until he enacted his actual plan to wipe out the population!"
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