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skeleton warrior posted:It's not as bad as the right-wing freakout makes it out to be, but that doesn't mean it's not bad. It's absolutely weird and creepy and Balenciaga was right to fire the agency that thought this was a good idea. There’s some other stuff that seems deliberate, like a page from a supreme court ruling about child sexual abuse used as set dressing. I don’t know what it means, but it’s weird and stupid and could be a shibboleth from an actual creep who worked on the campaign.   This is the ruling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Williams_(2008) I AM GRANDO fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Dec 2, 2022 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:There’s some other stuff that seems deliberate, like a page from a supreme court ruling about child sexual abuse used as set dressing. I don’t know what it means, but it’s weird and stupid and could be a shibboleth from an actual creep who worked on the campaign. skeleton warrior posted:It's not as bad as the right-wing freakout makes it out to be, but that doesn't mean it's not bad. It's absolutely weird and creepy and Balenciaga was right to fire the agency that thought this was a good idea. This definitely raises eyebrows, and yea, maybe a real creep is behind the ad. But while it maybe a bad weird ad, it's certainly not "child porn/baby bondage", And certainly having a bunch of weirdos accuse you of csam and human trafficking or whatever is probably a good reason to fire your ad agency
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I'm worried that they will just make up bullshit to strike this law down and gay marriage at the same time. Alito quoted a 16th century witch burner to make abortion illegal. They're free to use whatever moon logic they want, and they won't be questioned or sanctioned for it.
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The son of former NFL quarterback John Kitna was arrested on child porn charges and I'm hearing some weird blowback and subtle defense of the guy. I guess maybe because he's white, plays for Florida and supposedly the dad is super christiany. I also live in FL so that probably colors my experience since Go Gators but it's odd. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35157399/gators-qb-jalen-kitna-post-bond-details-child-porn-case-emerge The gist of it from these folks is that "maybe the girls were 17 or something and he didn't know" and "we don't know all the facts", which is slightly refreshing given how rabid these types usually are about everyone in the world being a pedophile. But the detail emerging in the article seem pretty damning and also involve physical abuse. I haven't heard any talk radio stations touch on it, not even the sports talk shows.
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They're too busy screeching about Balenciaga right now. Their contempt for this kind of thing is also proportional to how much they think the left likes/will defend it. There's no ideological capital in condemning a white Christian sportsball player of grooming or child porn. HOWEVER, had the player been black and given the most milquetost concern about systemic racism you better believe they'd be howling for blood about this guy. In other news, I had a coworker go on a stupid right wing rant during our lunch break. I usually avoid the guy because he just goes on and on about anti mask/anti vaccine poo poo but it was raining and I had to sit inside for once. I'm just trying to play my little Zelda clone on my Steam deck when he's going on and on. It started about how emts had to come check on a homeless guy who passed out drunk on the property (he was fine, thankfully). He complained that these people can get away with anything around here, and it's "not like this back in Idaho". Then he went on this rambling diatribe about the differences and causes of this problem: -No cash bail -Don't incarcerate vagrants -Cops aren't allowed to do anything to these people -Only blue states have this problem (we're in California) red states have common sense. -This is all evident by the hordes of people leaving blue states in droves -All of this is because the powers that be want your life unstable so you'll be forced to be dependent on their government welfare. Online I won't hesitate to get in fruitless slap fights with these idiots, if anything to prove I'm willing to suck up as much oxygen arguing about it as they are. But I was on my break, trying to enjoy my little game. If I argued with him then it would take away from my ME time and allow that rear end in a top hat to be a black hole of discourse. Taking to my wife later about it, she praised me for taking the high road and not getting in an ideological slap fight with a coworker. But I was still angry. The rest of my shift I was fuming about it. Thinking of all the things I should have said. At the same time the gish galloping would have made it hard to even address all his points in the ~7 mins I had left to clap back. I don't even know which counties do/do not have cash bail-lots of places talked about it, doesn't mean they followed through. If you throw every indigent in jail you have to pay money to keep them there, and a lot of reform was due to the pragmatism of overcrowded prison-throw em in jail just isn't sustainable even if you wanted to. And of course I have no idea how exactly Idaho or all its individual counties handle this, their crime statistics, etc. Online you have the time and ability to look this up and address it at your own pace. In meatspace chuds like this can run a bully pulpit because most people don't want to waste their break time shutting it down. Ugh I'm still pissed off about it too.
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Panfilo posted:They're too busy screeching about Balenciaga right now. Their contempt for this kind of thing is also proportional to how much they think the left likes/will defend it. There's no ideological capital in condemning a white Christian sportsball player of grooming or child porn. HOWEVER, had the player been black and given the most milquetost concern about systemic racism you better believe they'd be howling for blood about this guy. I disagree with your wife. Not engaging is understandable, and I in no way mean to imply you should feel a moral obligation to speak, but silence is tacit support.
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Bel Shazar posted:I disagree with your wife. Not engaging is understandable, and I in no way mean to imply you should feel a moral obligation to speak, but silence is tacit support. I agree with you, which is why I was mad I didn't say anything. Plus I tend to tell other people "you should speak up!" and not following my own advice makes me feel like a hypocrite (which just makes me more mad). Her advice was knowing that I'm prone to wanting to be "right" more than be "functional". I could have spoken up, but it would come with its own opportunity cost.
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Meatball posted:I'm worried that they will just make up bullshit to strike this law down and gay marriage at the same time. Alito quoted a 16th century witch burner to make abortion illegal. The obvious solution is to defang or dissolve the court, but of course those options won't be contemplated at all because they're "our precious institutions".
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Just checked. There are dozens of stories on the front page of Fox News website right now. Top story is a teaser something about Hunter Biden, of course. Multiple attacks on Apple, some sucking off of Elon Musk, some anti-immigration bullshit, OMG Biden ate lobster at a state dinner while real Americans are suffering, OMG reparations to the blacks are coming for sure this time!!!!!. The usual I guess. Not one mention anywhere on the site of the appellate court decision stomping down Trump's pet judge and her special master bullshit. The alternate reality field is particularly strong at the moment.
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predicto posted:Just checked. There are dozens of stories on the front page of Fox News website right now. Top story is a teaser something about Hunter Biden, of course. Multiple attacks on Apple, some sucking off of Elon Musk, some anti-immigration bullshit, OMG Biden ate lobster at a state dinner while real Americans are suffering, OMG reparations to the blacks are coming for sure this time!!!!!. The usual I guess. Anything about Trump having dinner with vocally outspoken Nazi’s?
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Murgos posted:Anything about Trump having dinner with vocally outspoken Nazi’s? lol no
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Panfilo posted:I agree with you, which is why I was mad I didn't say anything. Plus I tend to tell other people "you should speak up!" and not following my own advice makes me feel like a hypocrite (which just makes me more mad). All true and those were some great posts you made but don't be too hard on yourself for choosing your battles or however you'd prefer to categorize that. You didn't do anything wrong and I understand and empathize with everything you wrote.
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Ambitious Spider posted:Looking up the controversial photos and... Diaper Don says "Bondage Babies", but all I see is "Build-a-Bear goes to Hot Topic" on that first one.
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BornAPoorBlkChild posted:https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1598732346471157761?t=tFTF8nZfYzBWuw-kjQDihw&s=19 Had to check that this was former UFC fighter Jake Shields because of course it was. MMA really brings out the shitheads like this, or Chael Sonnen, or Tito Ortiz who became a councilman in Orange County and kept getting news stories for breaking mask mandates. And I guess also saying anti-Semitic stuff
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I AM GRANDO posted:I don’t think Kanye praised Stalin or Mao. He said he loved all three of them exactly once but spent the rest of the Jones show just saying he loved Hitler and that the Holocaust didn't happen Piell fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Dec 3, 2022 |
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BiggerBoat posted:All true and those were some great posts you made but don't be too hard on yourself for choosing your battles or however you'd prefer to categorize that. You didn't do anything wrong and I understand and empathize with everything you wrote. Thanks, that means a lot to me. Sometimes I can't help but think that disingenuous chuds deliberately pick "inconvenient" moments to goad people into debates, because it forces a lot of variables to consider. Like in my case some of these guys are notoriously thin skinned. Two other coworkers got in a similarly dumb argument where an evangelical worker sea lioned about atheism which had an atheist coworker take the bait, started disagreeing with the evangelist who then went crying to the union saying he's being harassed for his religious beliefs. Now the good news is nothing bad came of this for the atheist but it involved a LOT of "concerned talks" tit for tat he said she said middle school drama, wild legal threats, the atheist being strongly encouraged (but not forced) to change his schedule just to keep the peace, etc. Nothing came of this argument but the atheist worker was incredibly stressed out for two months over all this drama. So in that case, a person wanted to stand up for themselves, and the toll they had to pay for that effort was two months of pointless stressful drama. Would you say that's a good deal? Well it depends, right? Since we're not living in a vacuum and have plenty of other things we need to think about in our day to day life. This is an extreme example but it's a variable I need to consider during my lunch break in these situations.
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Panfilo posted:Thanks, that means a lot to me. Sometimes I can't help but think that disingenuous chuds deliberately pick "inconvenient" moments to goad people into debates, because it forces a lot of variables to consider. There's rarely a "convenient moment" to get into this poo poo, which leads to a lot of "no political discussions at ____________ (parties, work, thanksgiving, christmas, family vacations)" self imposed and agreed upon rules. In my experience, it's almost always the Limbaugh listening dittohead MAGA's that can't stick with the program because god dammit their freedom of speech and man are they RIGHT about poo poo but mostly because they center their entire identities around it. So we get a lot of American flags, open carrying, edgy t-shirts and poo poo like that. They also like to frame or express their opinions with "jokes". I'm rather left leaning and liberal but I don't introduce myself that way nor project it to the world every loving chance I get and fill my yard with flags or adorn my car with stickers letting everyone know how much I like Bernie Sanders and FDR. ... And, yes, it's always funny to me how, for all their talk about easily triggered snowflakes everywhere or political correctness running amok, conservatives and religious types are remarkably quick to take offense and feel picked on. They're WAY more easily offended than I am. One f-bomb or taking Christ's name in vain will get that ball rolling, don't even worry about it. I just pick my spots, gauge my energy, consider the source and make sure I know wtf I am talking about before I start shooting off my mouth, which wasn't always the case for me, and typically limit my barbs to things like fact correction and/or sarcastic jokes. These people are dug in pretty hard and incredibly brainwashed. I can't do much to fix that and totally disagree that it's my responsibility to always be trying and on the offensive about it. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Dec 3, 2022 |
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Zipperelli. posted:I've found staring them in the face and saying "Shut the gently caress up, dumbass. You sound like a toddler" works *wonders* at getting them to stfu. At least in my lovely chud-infested area. Ridicule > Logical debate in almost every instance
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BiggerBoat posted:There's rarely a "convenient moment" to get into this poo poo, which leads to a lot of "no political discussions at ____________ (parties, work, thanksgiving, christmas, family vacations)" self imposed and agreed upon rules. In my experience, it's almost always the Limbaugh listening dittohead MAGA's that can't stick with the program because god dammit their freedom of speech and man are they RIGHT about poo poo but mostly because they center their entire identities around it. So we get a lot of American flags, open carrying, edgy t-shirts and poo poo like that. They also like to frame or express their opinions with "jokes".  and while my wife and I silently groaned at each other over the tone deafness it occurred to me that this shirt is basically leftist Truck Nutz and I joked to my wife I should proudly wear it when we visit my brother in his deep red county to pull the same poo poo they do (she objected, fearing actual violence on me and her and our kids for the crime of being an edgy leftist out for lulz.) Still fun to daydream about cosplaying some Bidenbro to give them a taste of their own medicine, considering they would have far less self awareness of what's going on. Zipperelli. posted:I've found staring them in the face and saying "Shut the gently caress up, dumbass. You sound like a toddler" works *wonders* at getting them to stfu. At least in my lovely chud-infested area. But yeah had it just been the two of us I probably would have just cut him off and be like '"Good thing I'm not scared of passed out drunks unlike some Karens around here" and not responded further, as though I was thinking out loud all along.
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BiggerBoat posted:There's rarely a "convenient moment" to get into this poo poo, which leads to a lot of "no political discussions at ____________ (parties, work, thanksgiving, christmas, family vacations)" self imposed and agreed upon rules. In my experience, it's almost always the Limbaugh listening dittohead MAGA's that can't stick with the program because god dammit their freedom of speech and man are they RIGHT about poo poo but mostly because they center their entire identities around it. So we get a lot of American flags, open carrying, edgy t-shirts and poo poo like that. They also like to frame or express their opinions with "jokes". It’s all they think about and the only thing in their experience that they have available to reference. And a lot of them act like it’s all a game or low-stakes joking around, like when you tell someone their local team sucks. My friend’s parents are genuinely confused at the idea that their child cut them off because of heinous poo poo they said, because they don’t think that anything anyone says can be taken seriously.
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Panfilo posted:My mom actually gave me a Joe Biden/Kamala Harris shirt as an earnest gift I found an old hardly worn Obama/Biden shirt in the bottom of my dresser the other day and have thrown it on once or twice just recently for...well...I dunno what reason really. I AM GRANDO posted:It’s all they think about and the only thing in their experience that they have available to reference. And a lot of them act like it’s all a game or low-stakes joking around, like when you tell someone their local team sucks. My friend’s parents are genuinely confused at the idea that their child cut them off because of heinous poo poo they said, because they don’t think that anything anyone says can be taken seriously. This is what I meant when I referred to how many of them center their entire identity around it. I think 24/7 FOX and talk radio has a LOT to do with it because no matter where they are, they can inject that poo poo into their veins. You also see it manifested in bumper stickers, yards, etc. and especially, down here where I live, in performative displays at the beach. Which I find off putting. Reminds me of the scene in American History X where Derrick "puts up a flag" in jail by revealing his nazi tats. I see these families or groups with their F150s in the sand taking the time to set up and fly anti Biden, Confederate flag, Trump or even just US flags in their little camp. I suppose it's to attract like minded people to some degree but, more, I think it's to invite confrontation and just HOPE that someone like me will say some poo poo about it so they can unload their hardened and well marinated opinions on others. It's provocation more than anything.
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BiggerBoat posted:I found an old hardly worn Obama/Biden shirt in the bottom of my dresser the other day and have thrown it on once or twice just recently for...well...I dunno what reason really. Haha we should team up! Except we live on opposite coasts... And the fact that there's a lot of potential opportunity costs (my wife wouldn't take kindly to the possibility of her and our kids getting doxxed because I trolled the wrong psycho conservative for lulz). And that reminds me of another distinction. A lot of empathetic left wing people might be irate enough to troll right wingers and laugh at how triggered they get. But they're also empathetic enough to know the ripple effects and costs associated with such a performance art. Remember the goon who shot Tiny Toese's Tiny Toe off and got arrested? He had been recently divorced like 2 months before the incident, and I can't help but wonder if he had gotten so radicalized that perhaps his spouse was concerned for the safety of her and her child. Regardless she didn't want a part of it. But conservatives don't carry that introspective burden. They either burn bridges consequences be dammed (your example of parents whose kids are estranged from them) or they surround themselves with people who don't care or are too spineless to do anything about it. So they don't have those social restraints in the same way, which is probably also why they're so eager to pick dumb fights - most of the time they have a social home field advantage. They'll argue and scream and threaten but they're not worried about 'taking it too far'. Their leftist adversaries on the other hand, like you and I, have to pick our battles very carefully. Not just to balance our own sanity, but to keep our own families safe.
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I recently took a job working in a poker room. It's filled with cops and vets. Most of the security are former cops and several of the players have...opinions. Since I work there, I have to bite my tongue but I have a little fun sometimes rooting against them and watching the lose their money. There's one dude in particular that really grinds my gears. I hate him. He's a player and is a former cop that used to work for LAPD. And he will let you know about it any chance he gets. Again, it's his entire identity. "White cop from LA can't catch a break" is a common refrain. Did I mention he was former LAPD? Once in a blue moon, I'll sarcastically ask him what he used to do when he was working and he never catches on. Also makes racist comments when ASian or black players leave the table. He sucks. He also likes to tell the same poo poo That Didn't Happen story...all...the...time. Usually it's in the form of an anecdote, except the place it happened, when it happened and sometimes exactly what was said varies. The gist of it goes that he was standing in line at ________________ (gas station, grocery store, movies), some other guy was (usually) wearing a covid mask and the cop dude wasn't respecting the person's space. Masked dude says "obviously you don't respect social distancing" or something similar. "Cracking wise" as it were. LAPD guy says "You know what, kid? You got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird rear end". That's it. That's the entire joke/story/anecdote. Only thing left out was the part where everyone claps or laughs. He thinks this is the all timer of sick burns and tells it every time I sit at the table he's playing. Did I mention he was LAPD? He was LAPD. Cop from LA. White cop from Los Angeles. Cop. LA. Imagine getting pulled over by this rear end in a top hat or having him show up to settle a domestic dispute.
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My stepdad likes to pull those stdh stories. He likes to call other poc "coconut-heads" (which he INSISTED is not racist, but rather his own personal word for 'dummy' even though Caucasian dummies usually get more conventional r slurs as a description of their intelligence). Most of us groan and tune him out, but one daughters in law of his is particularly witty and basically heckles him through the entire story. "So there was this Indian coconut head driving next to me, and he honked his horn thinking he's better than me" "... Because you were cutting him off..." "And he told me to pull over so we pulled over and rolled up my sleeves" "and you apologized to this guy for cutting him off?" "So he started yelling and hollering at me in some mumbo jumbo language" "Among the 4 fluent languages he knows that you don't" "And... Fer cryin out loud Cheryl can you let me finish my goddamn story?" "Freeze. Peach?" "Ah forget it you probably can't wait until these coconut heads take over". "So pumpkin pie or pecan, Eugene?"
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BornAPoorBlkChild posted:https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1598732346471157761?t=tFTF8nZfYzBWuw-kjQDihw&s=19 Weird how these guys never mention how many people the British Empire killed, just in India alone.
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Animal-Mother posted:Weird how these guys never mention how many people the British Empire killed, just in India alone. I don't think even Kanye would praise the british.
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Panfilo posted:Thanks, that means a lot to me. Sometimes I can't help but think that disingenuous chuds deliberately pick "inconvenient" moments to goad people into debates, because it forces a lot of variables to consider.  ). Uncle Leo knows exactly what he's doing when he starts making veiled references to welfare babies and stupid pronouns at the family Thanksgiving - he does it because he know it causes discomfort for non-chuds, who either have to sit there and take it, or escalate into an argument (and get everybody made at them for not observing decorum and keeping the peace). Either way, Leo gets to gloat about owning his stupid lib relatives.
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I'm suddenly reminded of a political ad being shown around PA for the midterms that came on the muted office TV. I couldn't tell you what candidate it was for or against, but it depicted some guy at a desk stamping a big fat [RACIST] marker on the photo of some dude. I nearly lost my poo poo in the middle of my shift when I looked over and saw it.
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Animal-Mother posted:Weird how these guys never mention how many people the British Empire killed, just in India alone. He thinks that's a good thing. The Lone Badger posted:I don't think even Kanye would praise the british. So his brain isn't completely gone then.
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Angry_Ed posted:Also who the hell in the orbit of mainstream media is praising Mao or Stalin? At least without anybody calling them out on it? Basically no one ever, and if you really want to try, at least with Mao and Stalin, you can say they accomplished some limited, positive things. Hitler provoked basically the bloodiest war in human history, destroyed his country for a generation, and targeted over 10 million people for outright extermination simply because he could.
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HootTheOwl posted:Yes, but brutalism. So who can say? For real. Haven't any of you goons ever heard of this Soros fellow? I've been told he gets around
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