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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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The Lone Badger posted:

I don't think your initial analysis is quite right. Elon doesn't want people there overnight so he can gets features out faster, he wants them working long hours and never going home as an end in itself.

Yeah that's probably true. Which means that Elon himself doesn't understand WHY some companies do crunch cycles. He just thinks they're a standard part of "how company be successful". And because no doubt he's been through it a few times with Paypal and Tesla etc, he knows it's just "a thing you do".

Like if you do one crunch cycle and you get X success, then you can do crunch all the time and you'll be X^2 successful. Companies that don't do it are just lazy!

He's cargo-culted himself.

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Dec 8, 2022

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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Comstar posted:

Why is Meta so against what using it for Porn? That seems to be the best use of it.


Though after watching that Shut Up and Play video on Virtual Chat using it to allow anyone to be anyone they want seems valid and much more popular. Meta dosn't seem to want to allow that either???

Literally anything, Zuck says a metaverse can/should be with Horizon, VRChat does already. And better, as an open platform (and even soon to have its own internal marketplace for avatar and asset creations) It's why Horizon is getting mocked to death constantly. VRChat even hosts virtual events, most recently VKET's virtual marketplace showcases have included convention booths for Japanese locales and businesses. (Get to go have a look, examine products, click a link to pop out to the actual web storefront in your browser). It's a neat way to spend an afternoon exploring with friends, but anyone who tries it could tell you wouldn't want to make that your norm for shopping or business.

If you want to see why Horizon's so absurdly bad, streamer RTGame played it so nobody else ever has to out of curiosity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdqrFa6pWLA


Edmund Sparkler posted:

George Hotz doing the equivalent of posting "FB friends, tell what's the best wireless provider and why? And go!", except he's arrogantly posing as the savior of a clapped out social media company and he's in way over his head.

The stuff he's asking? I've actually worked on front-end functionality doing similar things (not on twitter scale, but still professionally), and the questions he's asking are either laughably basic things or so absurdly wrong he should know it's wrong before asking. I doubt I could build something for Twitter to improve their search, but I'd know well enough to be engaging with their back-end API team and looking at how the existing search functionality pulls results to start with. And then I'd probably spend a couple months learning Twitter's architecture, API and language just to even begin to understand the requirements involved.


The Lone Badger posted:

I don't think your initial analysis is quite right. Elon doesn't want people there overnight so he can gets features out faster, he wants them working long hours and never going home as an end in itself.

I fully expect this to get real Lord of the Flies at Twitter HQ by the end.

Total Party Kill
Aug 25, 2005

Programmer guy has already won, idiots. He wondered "what would it be like if i could just tweet questions and twitter responded with the results of my query???"

Then he went and tweeted a question to his rabid elon fans and expected them to reply to the query with results.

It's a Flinstones version of the solution. Instead of code and machinery programmed and built to house this new feature, Elon/Hotz will count on a legion of smelly nerds to watch all of twitter for tweeted questions and then go out and supply answers and reply to the tweeted queries with their results.

checkmate.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



My favourite part of that rtgame playthrough is it coinciding with the meta share plunge and people in horizon cheered the youtuber on for destroying Facebook

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
Elon seems like the kind of guy that would believe he would have morgellons

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




"Google is dying" claims hotshot PS4 Hacker working as Twitter's Lead Engineer

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Data Graham posted:

Yes I too want all my web searches to be published openly as tweets so they are forever in my history and people can reply to them.

Just like the clueless old men who occasionally post "big boobs" or similar in facebook because they don't know the difference between it and searching.

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

Non Compos Mentis posted:

Elon seems like the kind of guy that would believe he would have morgellons

Odds on him going full Howard Hughes?

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


Non Compos Mentis posted:

Elon seems like the kind of guy that would believe he would have morgellons

Elon musk the type of guy who bought those green markers that “make CDs sound better”

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

The Saddest Rhino posted:

My favourite part of that rtgame playthrough is it coinciding with the meta share plunge and people in horizon cheered the youtuber on for destroying Facebook

Bit off-topic, but RTGame also did a VRChat stream just for comparison afterwards if anyone's curious;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdBGCI0_wfg

Good little cross-section of worlds shown off too (the Duck Sanctuary is a VERY nice little place to relax in VR). I also recommend the Happy Hill Dog Park in a similar vein, cause you can play fetch with neat NPC dogs that'll go retrieve and return toys to you.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

Googles revenue is like $260 billion a year, what a bunch of has-beens

I wonder how much twitter beats that by, must be a lot

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



TulliusCicero posted:

"Google is dying" claims hotshot PS4 Hacker working as Twitter's Lead Engineer

I was KINDA feeling sympathy for Hotz until he started on that loving "Google's dead and it's up to brave Captains of Industry to easily overtake them" poo poo.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

The Awesomesaurus posted:

https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/1599970004593946625

Having a good one.

Also his profile picture really pisses me off and I don’t know why.

HOTZ: I was watching my grandfather type “where find good pant chicago north” into Facebook and then it hit me *does visionary hands* what if automatically answering the questions produced by the febrile minds of the confused elderly was a Twitter feature?

ELON: I love it! Also, can you ask your grandad to pm me where find good pant? Actually, know what, never mind. I’ll just wait for our version to be complete *taps fingers on desk, clears throat, looks out window* so, where are we on that?

mysterious frankie fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Dec 8, 2022

.random
May 7, 2007

Ok, so I’ve decided all this is because ChatGPT uses tweets as one part of its input. ChatGPT is the “search engine that is better than Google,” created by OpenAI, a company that lists Musk as a founder.

Something something something Twitter is the future of search.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



I use Bing.com

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
google search is kind of lovely now unless youre searching for something that you can buy or programming topics

we're pretty much stuck with it though it's hard to see how anyone fixes it or creates a replacement because decades of google encouraged "SEO" bullshit has ruined all of the inputs they used to make google search good originally

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



thathonkey posted:

google search is kind of lovely now unless youre searching for something that you can buy or programming topics

we're pretty much stuck with it though it's hard to see how anyone fixes it or creates a replacement because decades of google encouraged "SEO" bullshit has ruined all of the inputs they used to make google search good originally

I like when it recommends Quora results that are all extremely Nazi for irrelevant searches

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

thathonkey posted:

google search is kind of lovely now unless youre searching for something that you can buy or programming topics

we're pretty much stuck with it though it's hard to see how anyone fixes it or creates a replacement because decades of google encouraged "SEO" bullshit has ruined all of the inputs they used to make google search good originally

They worked themselves into a corner. Last batch of changes devalued all the classic SEO bullshit and instead supporsedly promotes genuine user behavior, like actually reading things. The problem is people mostly see ecommerce pages anyway because thats what the core google search algorithm values, and most users don’t see content they’d actually like to read - with the exception of Wikipedia, which is why its so high in the organic results often.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

thathonkey posted:

google search is kind of lovely now unless youre searching for something that you can buy or programming topics

we're pretty much stuck with it though it's hard to see how anyone fixes it or creates a replacement because decades of google encouraged "SEO" bullshit has ruined all of the inputs they used to make google search good originally

yeah you have to scroll past an entire page of sponsored listings to get to the actual search results sometimes

maybe time for me to switch to something else? what do people even use? when I tried Bing for a few months I ended up just re-searching everything in Google anyway

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

google.com, the website that has become so near-synonymous with the phrase "use a search engine to find it" that is has to fend off genericization of its name due to its ubiquity, is waning.

:chloe:

Midnight Voyager posted:

We're back to Star Citizen constantly reinventing the wheel and acting like nobody's done it before.

Wonder what the overlap is in Musk fans and Citizens.

It's a circle, but one that they *just now* invented, and you're a pedo if you steal it. Also, it's going to take 4 years and a few million before a working model of that circle will be available. :lol:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Normal internet user: I would like to see academic papers relating to my query "where to get cuban sandwich"

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Ah yes, that sounds easy and a wonderful way to interact with the website. I'll just key in "how do I chop tomatoes" and be told "gently caress you that's abusive and ableist and you deny deli workers their salaries."

In all likelihood, it'll be funnier than that because the answer to every question will be ether "fart" or just goatse

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Data Graham posted:

Normal internet user: I would like to see academic papers relating to my query "where to get cuban sandwich"

The academic paper will be produced on the fly by ChatGPT and cost $1 to read.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

thathonkey posted:

google search is kind of lovely now unless youre searching for something that you can buy or programming topics

we're pretty much stuck with it though it's hard to see how anyone fixes it or creates a replacement because decades of google encouraged "SEO" bullshit has ruined all of the inputs they used to make google search good originally

it feels like search engines in general are doomed now that these giant AI language models are proliferating and can churn out mountains of plausible sounding SEO garbage with minimal effort

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Ror posted:

it might incentivize people to live at the office if they provided complimentary meals for the employees, i wonder if elon has ever thought of that

they're still providing meals, but elon fired the chefs and cut the budget, so now you get mac 'n cheese and a salad bar every day


this is not a joke, that actually happened

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


repiv posted:

it feels like search engines in general are doomed now that these giant AI language models are proliferating and can churn out mountains of plausible sounding SEO garbage with minimal effort

This can be solved by using an AI to search for you, current if you ask where to get a cuban sandwich GPT will tell you it cannot search the internet so it cannot tell you where to get one locally. So if these were actually able to search and parse out other AI text... well we have an arms race.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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The chefs' code was really not up to par

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


MrQwerty posted:

Lol remember when posters itt were stanning for that dumbass idiot moron when he made his tweet offering to work for Elon

No one did that

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Decrepus posted:

No one did that

Yeah at most people were saying he had something of a pedigree so he wasn't coming in as a complete neophyte, but it sure looks like he hasn't matured much since his PS3 hacking days

tbh I assumed he was coming into Twitter to run some kind of scam. Which may still be the case

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Yeah, I think Hotz is trying to set himself up publicly as Musk's right-hand man kind of thing so he can grift his cultists.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

repiv posted:

it feels like search engines in general are doomed now that these giant AI language models are proliferating and can churn out mountains of plausible sounding SEO garbage with minimal effort

this could be solved trivially by putting negative weight on the number of ads on a site

google will never do that of course, but somebody could

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

maybe put a little respect on the genius' name ok, he hacked a playstation, maybe shut the gently caress up if you didn't hack a playstation, ok????

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Tarkus posted:

Yeah, I think Hotz is trying to set himself up publicly as Musk's right-hand man kind of thing so he can grift his cultists.

Kids in the 50s: I want to grow up to be an asternut or baseball player or rock star

Kids today: I want to grow up to attach myself to a rich con man so I can grift his cultists

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
what if, instead of GeoHotz' stupid idea for a google killer, someone produced a search engine better than that

phew, had the idea, that's like 95% of the work, someone please do the rest and e-mail me your work and i'll see if i can slot you in an internship somewhere

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

sugar free jazz posted:

maybe put a little respect on the genius' name ok, he hacked a playstation, maybe shut the gently caress up if you didn't hack a playstation, ok????

He did a terrible job because modding a PS3 is still the jankiest poo poo even like 10+ years later.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Let's just go back to dogpile and hotbot and webrings

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
That means Sony did a good job. Hire the guy who designed that security.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Didn't Meta have a thing about wanting people to use FB search for everything?

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

MrQwerty posted:

Lol remember when posters itt were stanning for that dumbass idiot moron when he made his tweet offering to work for Elon

Everyone dunked on him for:
Obviously being an Elon fanboy.
Thinking he could rewrite everything in twelve weeks.

The only support he got was "Oh, this guy was a player in some scene and he kinda seemed to have decent credentials..." with the obvious "...but" just hanging out there.

Quelle surprise the guy is a loving idiot who thinks he can topple Google as a search engine when searching for poo poo in Twitter it-loving-self is loving garbage.

It's kind of funny how obviously that dude was full of poo poo yet all it takes is a few healthy strokes of Elon "DM me pix of ur code" Musk's ego to get in.

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sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

Doctor Butts posted:

Everyone dunked on him for:
Obviously being an Elon fanboy.
Thinking he could rewrite everything in twelve weeks.

The only support he got was "Oh, this guy was a player in some scene and he kinda seemed to have decent credentials..." with the obvious "...but" just hanging out there.

Quelle surprise the guy is a loving idiot who thinks he can topple Google as a search engine when searching for poo poo in Twitter it-loving-self is loving garbage.

It's kind of funny how obviously that dude was full of poo poo yet all it takes is a few healthy strokes of Elon "DM me pix of ur code" Musk's ego to get in.



it definitely wasn't everyone dunking on him lol

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