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Flipswitch posted:I've only listened to snippets of this podcast but it seems pretty good - does the patreon work as like an episode unlocker? Ie sub and pick two episodes a month? Or am I misunderstanding it? Subbing gets you access to everything, the previous catalogue and all future episodes.
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Flipswitch posted:I've only listened to snippets of this podcast but it seems pretty good - does the patreon work as like an episode unlocker? Ie sub and pick two episodes a month? Or am I misunderstanding it? No, subscription gets you the entire archive, the money allows them to do 2 episodes a month. It's worth it
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Just me being a bit thick and dyslexic I think. Thanks! Subbed because the content is great so far.
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there’s a good episode guide they released on 20/9/22 if you scroll back in the Patreon feed
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Edit: Beaten many times over
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Yeah I book marked that - thanks! I have a ton of driving to do for work and downtime in surgery so it's ideal time to catch up.
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Matt Taibbis descent into being the main character of lib twitter is painful to watch, but goddamn lol
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Nothus posted:Matt Taibbis descent into being the main character of lib twitter is painful to watch, but goddamn lol
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Enjoyed the mini series on the end days of the ottomans
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Zmej posted:i can't even follow the contrarianism from him and greenwald anymore They're Gen Xers. The only thing either of them believe in is the certainty of their own superiority over others. If you look back at his ouvre it's not so much telling truth to power as the tale of Matt vs. The Stupids. Taibbi started down this road when he felt like cancel culture was going to threaten his purchase as a journalistic idol. He's a purely self-interested actor and it's not worth knowing all the details.
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Nothus posted:Matt Taibbis descent into being the main character of lib twitter is painful to watch, but goddamn lol All the signs were there for a long time. Glad I’ve been off Twitter for a few weeks. Feels great.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They're Gen Xers. The only thing either of them believe in is the certainty of their own superiority over others. If you look back at his ouvre it's not so much telling truth to power as the tale of Matt vs. The Stupids. Taibbi started down this road when he felt like cancel culture was going to threaten his purchase as a journalistic idol. He's a purely self-interested actor and it's not worth knowing all the details. https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1600544427813982208?s=20&t=-w49zwcoSeSSHeTFJJpTSw LOL
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Weird. Almost like saying "we were wrong" every episode will never be enough to placate libs.
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Resistance moms are reinventing the exile in the replies https://twitter.com/hildebran/status/1600535178241253381?t=HKVnm81ixcfXssj-jPBVGg&s=19
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Hedenius posted:https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1600544427813982208?s=20&t=-w49zwcoSeSSHeTFJJpTSw Ioffe and the lib crew are trotting out all the old smears in the replies
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the old Breitbart smears, lmao
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Frosted Flake posted:Weird. Almost like saying "we were wrong" every episode will never be enough to placate libs. I don't think they were doing to placate liberals, they were doing it because they see themselves as people trying to do an honest job of analyzing the world for their listeners. Hilariously despite seeming more cynical, Mark has always been the guy who has tried to stick to so-called journalistic principles and holding himself to a standard that's informed a lot of his better work. Dreylad has issued a correction as of 16:46 on Dec 9, 2022 |
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I remember when Mark was dejected about the fact he and Yasha weren't given credit for breaking the story on the Koch Brothers astroturfing the Tea Party. Maybe in a different world where Mark got to be a famous journalist he would take the same path, but he didn't. Instead he got to hit rock bottom addicted to speed in Kentucky, and since then he's bounced back as a family man and podcast darling.
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brugroffil posted:Enjoyed the mini series on the end days of the ottomans It's been cool to hear since I don't know much of anything about it.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I remember when Mark was dejected about the fact he and Yasha weren't given credit for breaking the story on the Koch Brothers astroturfing the Tea Party. Maybe in a different world where Mark got to be a famous journalist he would take the same path, but he didn't. Instead he got to hit rock bottom addicted to speed in Kentucky, and since then he's bounced back as a family man and podcast darling. ames becoming a normie family man and taibbi becoming a cancel culture guy is like the opposite of what i thought their trajectories would be like after the exile blew up, always makes me laugh to think about
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lobster shirt posted:ames becoming a normie family man and taibbi becoming a cancel culture guy is like the opposite of what i thought their trajectories would be like after the exile blew up, always makes me laugh to think about lol same
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Instead he got to hit rock bottom addicted to speed in Kentucky, what happened here lol also, didn't expect them to get so gossipy about matt taibbi. must be a lot of bitterness there
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I think there was a bit of bad blood related to how the Exile fell apart but they were kidna civil about it, then Mark took responsibility for the edgier poo poo in the Exile when people came for Matt, and now that he's gone bonkers the lingering grudges are coming out
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It seemed like Matt threw everyone under the bus in order to appease liberal media without realizing they'd never accept him. He seems super embarrassed by the whole saga, and does a lot of things out of spite for them.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:It seemed like Matt threw everyone under the bus in order to appease liberal media without realizing they'd never accept him. He seems super embarrassed by the whole saga, and does a lot of things out of spite for them. makes me think this quote from a profile of ames/the exile from 2010: quote:Shortly after Ames returned to Moscow, in early 2002, Taibbi left for Buffalo, New York, to start a new paper, The Buffalo Beast. Ames says Taibbi made it clear he didn’t want Ames’s help. According to some, it was Taibbi’s plan all along to parlay the Exile buzz into Stateside success. “[The Exile] gave him the Western platform he always wanted,” says Andrew Meier. Ames agrees. “I never thought I’d get anything of mine read. Matt never suffered from that worry. It was his birthright to be read,” he says. “He wasn’t ever comfortable with his own anger. Matt’s fate all along was to end up in a privileged space. He knew that and realized that if he could take an unconventional route there it would make him much more interesting once he arrived.” Ames claims that while he was gone Taibbi mismanaged The Exile, running it into debt and embroiling it in a libel lawsuit with Russian hockey star Pavel Bure after Taibbi ran a prank story claiming Bure’s then girlfriend, tennis player Anna Kournikova, had two vaginas. Ames says Taibbi pushed him to take on Bure, a hero among some of Moscow’s less humor-inclined underworld figures, knowing that it might endanger The Exile and Ames’s safety, even his life. “He wanted out of The Exile and he wanted out of my shadow. He was pretty clear that he wanted The Exile to go down,” Ames says.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:It seemed like Matt threw everyone under the bus in order to appease liberal media without realizing they'd never accept him. He seems super embarrassed by the whole saga, and does a lot of things out of spite for them. Yup. And he got so close he could taste it. after the financial crash, there was a fair bot of media appetite for narratives of big money shenanigans, and to Taibbi's credit, he delivered. His pieces on RS were good, his books on the topic even better, and he was showing up on MSNBC and such, one foot past the door of actual media legitimacy. And then...well, it's your call if the Powers That Be decided they had enough scrutiny and singled him out, or if the faux-liberal big media environment was always going to turn on him. Someone revisited his book under a Me Too lens and all of a sudden he was no longer a former edgy parodist speaking truth to power, but a sleavy rapist stalking their sacred halls and being mean to the nice banks. His stuff got buried along with the whole post-Crash narrative of justice/reform. And it cracked him. Even when he tried to play the Podcast game, you could tell his heart wasn't in it. But hey, the chudosphere doesn't judge. They welcomed Candace Owens despite her having been a SJW and made her a star. Think of what they could do for him!
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lobster shirt posted:ames becoming a normie family man and taibbi becoming a cancel culture guy is like the opposite of what i thought their trajectories would be like after the exile blew up, always makes me laugh to think about
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Sephyr posted:They welcomed Candace Owens despite her having been a SJW wait, what?
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Gotta plug the sister podcast The Empire Never Ended because I know the newest episode is interesting to posters ITT. They just overviewed information sent to them by fans about the Order of 9 Angles. It directly traces the formation of Atomwaffen to David Myatt staging a fake argument with himself using multiple accounts on the David Icke forum in 2013, as part of a scheme to get himself on the reptilian radar. It's all solid gold fashy forums content.
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Sephyr posted:Yup. And he got so close he could taste it. after the financial crash, there was a fair bot of media appetite for narratives of big money shenanigans, and to Taibbi's credit, he delivered. His pieces on RS were good, his books on the topic even better, and he was showing up on MSNBC and such, one foot past the door of actual media legitimacy. Second-guessing the Russiagate poo poo after 2016 was his undoing. Mainstream liberal media would brook no dissent and he never recovered from the fallout.
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He could have very easily let all that poo poo go. Matt still had a core base of fanatics behind him that he could've ate off of for years with how easy it is to be a boutique journalist online now. Instead he started alienating his own real fans by signing onto the Harvard cancel culture letter and doubling down on it.
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Having his book tour cancelled for the Eric Garner book absolutely broke him and there was no turning back after that. It's a shame too because that's probably the best thing he's written.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:everything turns into its opposites Yup. Candace was a run of the mill Twitter person picking small fights with people over not feeling represented and such, until she tripped the wrong types and got dragged by the early chudosphere....and then love-bombed while they said that the people who had been jerks to her were obviously crypto-liberals. In no time at all, she was cheering for Daddy Trump to teach those commies a lesson.
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Sephyr posted:Yup. Candace was a run of the mill Twitter person picking small fights with people over not feeling represented and such, until she tripped the wrong types and got dragged by the early chudosphere....and then love-bombed while they said that the people who had been jerks to her were obviously crypto-liberals. Iirc there was something about her trying to set up a site to "expose" people that was in practice just doxxing, and when she got a lot of poo poo for that, she went hard right
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Sephyr posted:Yup. Candace was a run of the mill Twitter person picking small fights with people over not feeling represented and such, until she tripped the wrong types and got dragged by the early chudosphere....and then love-bombed while they said that the people who had been jerks to her were obviously crypto-liberals. It was an anti gamergate harassment website iirc. Don't know if she was originally a true believer but I guess that doesn't really matter in the grand scope of things. Lol at the blumenthal shots in the most recent episode.
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eh shots might be a bit much, but i think mark is incredibly weary of max’s trajectory because he sees a lot of his younger self in max. but at the same time, you can’t tell someone like max “hey, can you dial it back a bit? just take 10% off the top.”
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i say swears online posted:i don't think i've kept up with max. what's he done besides grayzone? he went in big with anti-vaxxers
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