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Powered Descent posted:Which, if you think about it, points up a big difference between present-day society and that of the 23rd/24th century -- famous ship captains. I mean, can YOU name a single real world present day ship captain? Someone who commands a naval vessel today, whether that's a ship of your own country, or of an ally or a rival power? I bet you can't unless you're attached to a military somehow, directly or indirectly. Brawnfire posted:If they were discovering poo poo or saving the planet I might care more. Basically. Even historical captains that are remembered are remembered for their leadership in a great battle or something like that.
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Powered Descent posted:Which, if you think about it, points up a big difference between present-day society and that of the 23rd/24th century -- famous ship captains. I mean, can YOU name a single real world present day ship captain? Someone who commands a naval vessel today, whether that's a ship of your own country, or of an ally or a rival power? I bet you can't unless you're attached to a military somehow, directly or indirectly. Captain James Kirk, commanding USS Zumwalt.  Oh.
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Feldegast42 posted:Basically. Even historical captains that are remembered are remembered for their leadership in a great battle or something like that. Magellan is remembered, Captain Cook is remembered (particularly in areas he explored like Oz, NZ, Pacific), etc. Or in Oz, other captains that were important locally like Flinders are well-known names too. Columbus is (sadly) remembered. Etc. The big explorers are definitely known. We're just no longer in that kind of era, but Star Trek is very much modelled on the Age of Sail. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Dec 14, 2022 |
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MikeJF posted:Magellan is remembered, Captain Cook is remembered (particularly in Australia), etc. Yeah, the 22nd/23rd/24th centuries are just an unending Second Age of Exploration. So yeah there'd probably be a fuckton of legendary folks like Magellen, and Marco Polo, and Columbus, Cortez, Captain Cook, Captain Vancouver, and Amerigo Vespucci. Like, sending Jim Kirk to negotiate with someone was like sending in George Vancouver, when he showed up you were like "Oh poo poo."
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I don't know who George Vancouver is but I'm guessing that's kinda like Flinders being locally famous in Oz but without the kitty cat MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Dec 14, 2022 |
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MikeJF posted:I don't know who George Vancouver is but I'm guessing that's kinda like Flinders being locally famous in Oz Vancouver was basically "What if Captain Cook was actually liked by the indigenous populations he encountered and wasn't brutally murdered by them because he was a racist rear end in a top hat." He was also, as a matter of reference, captain of the namesake of the USS Discovery NCC-1031, the HMS Discovery... one of them, anyway. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Dec 14, 2022 |
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Powered Descent posted:Which, if you think about it, points up a big difference between present-day society and that of the 23rd/24th century -- famous ship captains. I mean, can YOU name a single real world present day ship captain? Someone who commands a naval vessel today, whether that's a ship of your own country, or of an ally or a rival power? I bet you can't unless you're attached to a military somehow, directly or indirectly. It’s aerial not naval but what about Capt. “Sully” Sulzberger? Alternatively Captain Phillips, he’s the captain now.
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nine-gear crow posted:Vancouver was basically "What if Captain Cook was actually liked by the indigenous populations he encountered and wasn't brutally murdered by them because he was a racist rear end in a top hat." There's an advanced utility starship of the Parliament class named after him.
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Uhura is into Spock because he's a tsundere. Don't hate me for telling the truth.
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Prurient Squid posted:Uhura is into Spock because he's a tsundere. Don't hate me for telling the truth. Nah, she only likes him for his devil ears and devil eyes.
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Fascinating, captain -- I contain both feelings of love and hate for you, but I will deny it if you ever bring it up
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Captain, I have made too much food for my lunch, it would be illogical not to offer it to you, though please be aware that this does not mean I hold positive feelings towards you.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Captain, I have made too much food for my lunch, it would be illogical not to offer it to you, though please be aware that this does not mean I hold positive feelings towards you. what is this, the uss japanese high school
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Captain, I have made too much food for my lunch, it would be illogical not to offer it to you, though please be aware that this does not mean I hold positive feelings towards you. As you humans say: baka. Baka baka baka baka. I will now run away.
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Lot of good episodes on this list https://twitter.com/trekcore/status/1603189177939623937?s=46&t=dwYRVldeIvFvJh1WEleKCA
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FlamingLiberal posted:Lot of good episodes on this list I can't help but shiver at TrekCore still, even though I know they cut ties just as quick as we did. Unrelated to the former, RIP Beaumont. Thanks for the great episodes.
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I still laugh at the Armageddon Game and someone on here pointing out that Keiko starts the whole thing because of O'brien drinking coffee in the afternoon and then O'Brien at the end is like "I drink coffee all drat day long".
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Hollismason posted:I still laugh at the Armageddon Game and someone on here pointing out that Keiko starts the whole thing because of O'brien drinking coffee in the afternoon and then O'Brien at the end is like "I drink coffee all drat day long". O'Brien drinks coffee all day to escape the pain. Janeway drinks coffee all day to inflict the pain 
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Thinking about Babel where O'Brien is overworked and stressed because he has to fix everything on the station and then he gets aphasia. Then at the end of the episode Sisko goes to the replicator and the coffee he gets is bad or something and he turns to O'Brien furious like it's O'Brien's fault. It's pretty mean-spirited on the writers' part. It would have been a good time for O'Brien to say "gently caress it." and walk off the bridge. That's my main goal with watching these multiple Star Trek series is I want to understand and analyze the moments where characters should say "gently caress it" and walk off the bridge.
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Hollismason posted:I still laugh at the Armageddon Game and someone on here pointing out that Keiko starts the whole thing because of O'brien drinking coffee in the afternoon and then O'Brien at the end is like "I drink coffee all drat day long". Absolutely top tier Keiko episode
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Prurient Squid posted:O'Brien has the luck of the Irish. Literally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCnGD6xv5ik&t=2s
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Prurient Squid posted:Charlie X. A teenager goes on a murderous rampage because grown ups told him to wait his turn to speak. Kids have shot their parents dead because they were told to stop playing Xbox and go to bed. That's not even "speculative" fiction anymore.
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Star Trek continues to predict the future.
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Winifred Madgers posted:I believe it suffered from a writers' strike as well. Correct. Shatner, Harve Bennett and David Loughery had a story outline completed when the WGA went on strike in March of 1988. The strike didn't end until August of that year, and The Final Frontier needed to begin shooting in the first week of October in order to make its June 1989 release date. So Loughery had a literal month to write the script, and what was shot was essentially his second draft. Arivia posted:I think it might be the episode where the kid imprints on Data but Data has a quote that goes something like: “I do not have emotions. I do not feel love, or friendship. But I do grow used to things, and notice their absence. I would miss my friends (the bridge crew) if they were gone.” This is from loving Nemesis.
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First episode 4 people die. Second episode 400 or so people die. I wonder what senseless waste of human life Kirk will preside over in episode three? edit: So when do the Klingons show up. Wait episode 26? Whaaaaaaaaaat? Prurient Squid fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Prurient Squid posted:Charlie X. A teenager goes on a murderous rampage because grown ups told him to wait his turn to speak. What's wrong with your face! 
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Mister Kingdom posted:What's wrong with your face! The Enterprise is experiencing a Helvetica Scenario.
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Has this been posted? https://twitter.com/mlndmeld/status/1601549565751984128
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Also, regarding eaglemoss going out of business: https://twitter.com/BenCSRobinson/status/1602747205709807616 https://twitter.com/BenCSRobinson/status/1602747991407968257
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nine-gear crow posted:The Enterprise is experiencing a Helvetica Scenario. Goddamnit, you beat me to it. Kirk or someone somehow removed the Queen Atom from the calcium moleucle.
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MikeJF posted:Also, regarding eaglemoss going out of business: Hopefully this means we can get a Cerritos without paying $500
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MikeJF posted:Also, regarding eaglemoss going out of business: I only need five more ships to complete the original collection. I'm guessing it will be easier just to buy them outright. Edit: I just checked ebay for the ones I need. Ouch! Mister Kingdom fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Dec 17, 2022 |
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Its kind of weird that in Starfleet and society its kind of common place to have ancient artifacts if that's your thing. Sisko has them and so does Picard. Just kind of strange.
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Hollismason posted:Its kind of weird that in Starfleet and society its kind of common place to have ancient artifacts if that's your thing. Sisko has them and so does Picard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmsfOUwbf_g
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They don't even have money. Can you just go into a museum or somethng and say "I would like to take this with me". Oh poo poo What if that's how it works.
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Ah, excellent sir. Yes, this is part of our "willing to get it blown up with a spaceship" collection, curated by our master declutterer, pMmari'Kkondo
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