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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


lol

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TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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OTGL S O A ML CUTY

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Saladman posted:

That sounds like one of those examples for the quote "the plural of anecdote is not data". Even in Ethiopia it's nowhere even remotely close to 90% penetrance, even for males aged 18-35, and I can't imagine Somalia is going to be higher, and almost no old grandmother is going to have a smartphone unless she's from a particularly wealthy and educated family.

Why would you use a majority rural country like Ethiopia as an example when it is poorer and more unequal than Somalia? The average Addis resident is probably richer than the average Mogadishan, but keep in mind that Addis is the only Ethiopian city that’s above 400k people. Ethiopians live in villages mostly, and many Ethiopians ( especially oromos) migrate to the Somali republic illegally for work.


https://nextbillion.net/news/report-somalias-mobile-money-penetration-high-data-costs-lowest-in-africa/

Also it isn’t an anecdote, it was an investor pitch-deck or whatever you call it.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Count Roland posted:

Could you link to that tax info?

And you keep saying Somali Republic, which was the formal name for the state during the 60s. I assume you're talking about Somalia as it exists today.

Somalia is an exonym, the countries official name is the Somali republic. It’s sort of a reverse situation of Czechia/the Czech Republic

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


QuickbreathFinisher posted:

OTGL S O A ML CUTY

But have you considered that PRUA I NT SAL UNR?

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

PawParole posted:

Somalia is an exonym, the countries official name is the Somali republic. It’s sort of a reverse situation of Czechia/the Czech Republic

Isn't the official name the Federal Republic of Somalia?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

Why would they do this? What is this, a game?

At least New Zealand is on there

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Yeah, a game called imaginatively The Oilman Game, with awful reviews. It seems some of the distortions may be due to the desire to have a certain number of holes in the board on land or offshore, as the are different rules for each.

Also, an older (?) Version:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS






Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

steinrokkan posted:

Yeah, a game called imaginatively The Oilman Game, with awful reviews. It seems some of the distortions may be due to the desire to have a certain number of holes in the board on land or offshore, as the are different rules for each.

Also, an older (?) Version:


Thanks, good to know they break the world in not just one way but several I guess.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


https://twitter.com/weirdsubway_/status/1604187079432208384

Hostile cartography

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Isn't the official name the Federal Republic of Somalia?

Nope.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

quote:

Decades of civil hostilities have virtually destroyed Somalia’s economy and infrastructure and split the country into areas under the rule of various entities. When Somalia’s tenuous transitional administration handed power to a new government in 2012, the newly declared Federal Republic of Somalia had only limited control over the country. There was, however, hope that the new government would usher in a new era, one in which peace would be achieved and Somalis could focus on rebuilding their country.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Somalia

Also almost every country has a colloquial name and an official name. Czechia is still Czech Republic, France is French Republic, Italy is Republic of Italy. Given that Somalia in somali is "Soomaliyah" I think it's about as much an exonym as "Italy."

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Yeah that's a misconception as you've said, it's the Most Serene Republic of Somalia.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I think it's about as much an exonym as "Italy."
All countries should have an -ia variant. Bring back Polonia and Hungaria and Hibernia and Dania and Islandia.

Portugal can be Portia.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

thailandia starring fred armisen

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

I guess the embassy of Somali in Washington DC doesn’t even know their own country’s name

https://somaliembassydc.net

How embarrassing for them to refer to themselves officially as The Federal Republic of Somalia in their official documentation!

I see the passport does say Somali Republic so I guess they have multiple official names.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I think it's possible to not care about the formal name of the country and just use whatever depending on personal taste, laziness and bad memory.

snuggle baby luvs hugs
Aug 30, 2005

Cool always wanted to see what was behind those panels

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Cross-posting a political map

SlothfulCobra posted:

And it's still worth noting that the Libertarian Party as a thing seems to be on its way to dying entirely.

https://twitter.com/okcspowell/status/1478129457751859204

They have largely failed to maintain their own distinct identity or philosophy in comparison to the Republican Party, and I think the Republican Party isn't really in good condition either so the politically active people who already lean that way are finding less reason to stay away. Finding true believer libertarians to make fun of is a little like big game hunting for endangered flightless birds.

Bonus map
https://twitter.com/mill226/status/1480265339992559616

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

i say swears online posted:

thailandia starring fred armisen

it writes itself

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

ChubbyChecker posted:

africa and russia are about the same width east to west, and maps that fail to show this are poo poo

2d world maps should be shaped like opened up d20s


Is this from a game or something? The hexes have me curious.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal


Long Monaco

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Guavanaut posted:



Long Monaco

Why though? A narrow corridor that doesn't lead out of French waters anyway doesn't strike me as particularly worthwhile. An equally sized circular area would make more sense (but gently caress up the French coastal waters I guess).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yacht stuff I think.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

BonHair posted:

Why though? A narrow corridor that doesn't lead out of French waters anyway doesn't strike me as particularly worthwhile. An equally sized circular area would make more sense (but gently caress up the French coastal waters I guess).

Monaco wants it's rich citizens to be able to dump bodies as far off shore as possible for hygiene reasons.

so yeah yacht stuff.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Is this from a game or something? The hexes have me curious.

no idea, i just found it, but yeah it seems likely

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Monaco wants it's rich citizens to be able to dump bodies as far off shore as possible for hygiene reasons.

so yeah yacht stuff.

what are they too good to use corsica’s corpse dumping grounds

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012



In this case it's because of fishing rights. Fishing rights is probably the only reason why France still holds on to those islands.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Carbon dioxide posted:

In this case it's because of fishing rights. Fishing rights is probably the only reason why France still holds on to those islands.

Maybe, but it's almost political suicide to give up territory anymore, even in dictatorships with uninhabited islands, like when Egypt formally ceded control of the disputed Tiran Islands to Saudi Arabia, which had been de facto Egyptian for decades - which I see was just agreed to by Israel this summer, so I guess everything is finally chill in the Gulf of Aqaba. Maybe MBS promised to build a super high tech bridge from Sinai to KSA or some such wild scifi thing, in exchange for Egyptian recognition of the Saudi claim.

Like isn't the US buying the US Virgin Islands from Denmark the last time territory was sold peacefully? Tiran Islands has got to be one of the most recent cases of significant territory given to another country peacefully, discounting land swaps like Bangladesh-India fixing their horrific border, which has happened a fair number of other times as well.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Reminded me of something I wanted to ask, does the US have fake territory on its map? Was thinking about how everywhere I lived or visited in Asia has territory they don't control on the default, official map--Japan has the Kurils, most maps in South Korea show the entire peninsula with no North Korea, China has Taiwan, the Nine-Dashed Line, all the little bits of India and such that they claim, etc. I know the US has had some minor border disputes but I don't know if there are areas on the map that just straight up are not part of the US like those.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Grand Fromage posted:

Reminded me of something I wanted to ask, does the US have fake territory on its map? Was thinking about how everywhere I lived or visited in Asia has territory they don't control on the default, official map--Japan has the Kurils, most maps in South Korea show the entire peninsula with no North Korea, China has Taiwan, the Nine-Dashed Line, all the little bits of India and such that they claim, etc. I know the US has had some minor border disputes but I don't know if there are areas on the map that just straight up are not part of the US like those.

It looks like there are some sand banks that the US claims that are more practically administered by other countries (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajo_Nuevo_Bank ), i.e. in that the other country has built a lighthouse/beacon on it. For more substantial islands, Navassa Island, Swains, and Wake are disputed, which are in practice American controlled. Looks like there there are also two tiny rocks disputed with Canada, at least one of which is in practice administered by Canada ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Rock ).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

Saladman fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Dec 19, 2022

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

It'll be a cold day in hell before I recognize Missouri

tractor fanatic
Sep 9, 2005

Pillbug
If we're talking maritime disputes, there is a substantial dispute between the US and Canada in the arctic

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

Grand Fromage posted:

Reminded me of something I wanted to ask, does the US have fake territory on its map? Was thinking about how everywhere I lived or visited in Asia has territory they don't control on the default, official map--Japan has the Kurils, most maps in South Korea show the entire peninsula with no North Korea, China has Taiwan, the Nine-Dashed Line, all the little bits of India and such that they claim, etc. I know the US has had some minor border disputes but I don't know if there are areas on the map that just straight up are not part of the US like those.

Anything the US claims at this point is going to be barely noticable given its sheer size, but maybe Navassa Island counts? The US administers it and its disputed between the US and Haiti.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navassa_Island

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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Saladman posted:

Maybe, but it's almost political suicide to give up territory anymore, even in dictatorships with uninhabited islands, like when Egypt formally ceded control of the disputed Tiran Islands to Saudi Arabia, which had been de facto Egyptian for decades - which I see was just agreed to by Israel this summer, so I guess everything is finally chill in the Gulf of Aqaba. Maybe MBS promised to build a super high tech bridge from Sinai to KSA or some such wild scifi thing, in exchange for Egyptian recognition of the Saudi claim.

Like isn't the US buying the US Virgin Islands from Denmark the last time territory was sold peacefully? Tiran Islands has got to be one of the most recent cases of significant territory given to another country peacefully, discounting land swaps like Bangladesh-India fixing their horrific border, which has happened a fair number of other times as well.

In the 1970s, the British government was keen on selling the Falklands to Argentina on the basis that it was a diplomatic millstone. But then Galtieri decided the best way to distract from all of the helicopter executions was a good old fashioned war, and now we're in the situation where Stanley will probably fly the Union Flag until the heat death of the universe.

Speaking of which...

https://twitter.com/TypeForVictory/status/1604767947343405057

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