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eXXon posted:Buddy, there's a Cael in the WHL: If Kash’s middle name ain’t Money why even bother naming your kid that?
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I kinda feel what you're saying, but if you think Hakstol and Maurice and Torts are running the same system as Cooper and Sullivan, I don't even know how to begin to respond to that
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was bored at one point last night and watched a bit of a PHF game on espn+ (apparently it was an outdoor game??) Boy, that league has a way to go. the camera work was like a high school hockey game. constantly off the puck and slow to transition, announcers fumbling names and audio from the ice that sounded like it was from mars. i cant imagine anyone getting into the product with that production value. the WNBA, for all its flaws, actually feels competently produced when you watch it
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clean ayers act posted:was bored at one point last night and watched a bit of a PHF game on espn+ (apparently it was an outdoor game??) That's because the NBA actively backs the WNBA way more than the NHL does the PHF.
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the talent deficit posted:xG is a flaky, unreliable stat and you shouldn't really base any kind of serious analysis on it I don't think we're watching the same sport.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:I don't think we're watching the same sport. yeah you're watching the spreadsheets, NEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeEEEEEERD
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/nathangraviteh/status/1603989160913932288?s=46&t=OFXi0zRq0ZnpZCpoASgcGA redirected by the shaft
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clean ayers act posted:was bored at one point last night and watched a bit of a PHF game on espn+ (apparently it was an outdoor game??) Not just the mentioned lack of support from the NHL, but women’s hockey in North America has basically been split in half with the split of PHF and PWHPA. Last I checked, the PHF has the only actual league, but most of the top tier players are boycotting the league. Pretty much all or most of team USA and Canada do not participate in the PHF , which honestly means there’s not gonna be enough talent for the PHF right there, plus you def lose allure that the best players that people actually know like Hillary Knight aren’t there. This is why you have Canada vs USA okaying like, 5-7 games a year, because while yeah, it’s a fantastic rivalry, everything is in purgatory and they don’t have anything else to do. IMO it’s a loving mess and huge detriment to women’s ice hockey. Optimally, they should probably just dissolve the PHF , their past decisions and leadership just have it too toxic for the other side to cave and join. Dissolve it, have the NHL come in and lay down better funding , rules etc. Unfortunately Bettman / the NHL really doesn’t give a gently caress unless it makes a profit, and that’s a huge catch 22 because women’s hockey probably can’t take large steps forward without said investment. Until then, the NHL will just give their token generic bullshit we support women’s hockey statements and use the mess as an excuse not to fund anyone. And it’s all even more stupid because if you grow women’s hockey, you just might get a lot more women watching hockey, but lol at the NHL thinking ahead. Edit: to answer the original comment better on watching women’s hockey, yeah it needs better funding and it’s def way slower when you don’t have the best of the best. I highly recommend watching one of the rivalry series games, Canada vs US is just so much faster to watch. Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Dec 17, 2022 |
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Duckman2008 posted:And it’s all even more stupid because if you grow women’s hockey, you just might get a lot more women watching hockey, but lol at the NHL thinking ahead. Last I checked the WNBA still isn't financially self sustaining without the money the NBA's pumping into it, but the NBA unlike the NHL understands this concept.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Last I checked the WNBA still isn't financially self sustaining without the money the NBA's pumping into it, but the NBA unlike the NHL understands this concept. That sounds right , and honestly I would agree with anyone arguing that women’s hockey just might not be able to be profitable. But yeah, NHL is idiotic because it would indirectly really grow their fan base.
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https://twitter.com/mattmurley19/status/1604146065678438400?s=20&t=aGqxaYCX2g1eN9TkhZPfdA Holy poo poo the balls to even try this
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/nathangraviteh/status/1603989160913932288?s=46&t=OFXi0zRq0ZnpZCpoASgcGA And that ended up being the GWG It was a real shot to the nuts to lose to Arizona like that.
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Duckman2008 posted:
oh for sure, i am a big fan of watching the womens tourney in the olympics and worlds when i can actually get access to it. Definitely didn't know all that backstory about the PHF, thanks for that
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DJExile posted:https://twitter.com/mattmurley19/status/1604146065678438400?s=20&t=aGqxaYCX2g1eN9TkhZPfdA Very very disrespectful.
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Duckman2008 posted:Unfortunately Bettman / the NHL really doesn’t give a gently caress unless it makes a profit, and that’s a huge catch 22 because women’s hockey probably can’t take large steps forward without said investment. Until then, the NHL will just give their token generic bullshit we support women’s hockey statements and use the mess as an excuse not to fund anyone. I can't even blame the NHL for not wanting to get involved at this stage. There was no way they were going to step in the middle of the old CWHL/NWHL international slapfight and at the league level they probably don't want to come in and basically be "you guys don't know what you're doing so let big brother take care of it". There needs to be some sort of united front from Canada/USA Hockey, the PWHA and PHA with some sort of plan first, even if it's the realization that the current situation sucks rear end and they need to blow everything up and start from scratch, but it needs to come from the women's orgs.
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The Dirty Burger posted:https://twitter.com/nhladamk/status/1604143214574727169?s=46&t=SNn2AZNFwXYr7jXZelBxxg Just doing the dumbest poo poo to try and get fired and chuck is just nodding along in agreement.
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Eric the Mauve posted:I kinda feel what you're saying, but if you think Hakstol and Maurice and Torts are running the same system as Cooper and Sullivan, I don't even know how to begin to respond to that they're not getting the same results or getting their players to adhere to the system to the same extent but they are all trying to accomplish the same basic things. it's not like hakstol has his wingers doing puck retrieval instead of defenseman or using his center as a high rover and tortorella has his left wings playing behind the defense. there's some variation but fundamentally players have the same roles and do the same things on all the teams in the league. what differs is how well you get the players to do it. and i guess if you want to say 'shot blocking at all costs' is a system then tortorella is running a different system. the last real 'system' introduced in the nhl was the neutral zone trap and all teams have aligned on a modified version of the trap ever since. there isn't a single team in the league that (intentionally) gives up the neutral zone or declines to aggressively defend zone entries
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clean ayers act posted:oh for sure, i am a big fan of watching the womens tourney in the olympics and worlds when i can actually get access to it. Definitely didn't know all that backstory about the PHF, thanks for that Yeah, and the PHF has a bunch of history of loving things up, they cut pay a few years back, so it’s a lot of distrust. Put it this way, PHF had to change their entire name to try and make it less toxic. pseudodragon posted:I can't even blame the NHL for not wanting to get involved at this stage. There was no way they were going to step in the middle of the old CWHL/NWHL international slapfight and at the league level they probably don't want to come in and basically be "you guys don't know what you're doing so let big brother take care of it". I mean, good point for sure , but if the NHL participated from day 1 it’s possible it’s not the poo poo show it currently is.
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Re the 84 game season, I thought I remembered that as a kid and apparently they did it in the 90s for a couple years wth 2 games at neutral sites.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Re the 84 game season, I thought I remembered that as a kid and apparently they did it in the 90s for a couple years wth 2 games at neutral sites. Flyers already play most of their games this season in the neutral zone , although that’s if they’re lucky and having a good game.
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Duckman2008 posted:I mean, good point for sure , but if the NHL participated from day 1 it’s possible it’s not the poo poo show it currently is. I don't know if there was a point in history, even with the best of intentions where the NHL could have spearheaded a women's league because they can't be the ones answering the questions of how are the teams, and more importantly he money, going to be split between Canada and the US, without causing an international incident.
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Rangers win 6 in a row, Devils lose 5 in a row.... https://youtu.be/D9UzH7Odt20
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I'm obviously madder about this than usual because Barkov didn't come back after it, but I do want to ask the thread: is this a dirty hit? https://twitter.com/BarryARothman/status/1604290279187841025 It's not what I commonly think of a dirty hit, but it does feel like deliberate targeting of Barkov's lower body in a very dangerous way. Still would like to hear from everyone else if it's just frustration about Barkov's injury or if it is dirty.
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Mark stone probably just had his Achilles explode Just happened and obviously no actual idea on the severity but it looked pretty drat bad E: and he's back in the game in the quickest recovery from a ruptured achielles that I could ever remember Iodised QQ fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Dec 18, 2022 |
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Pungry posted:I'm obviously madder about this than usual because Barkov didn't come back after it, but I do want to ask the thread: is this a dirty hit? flagrantly dirty, wow. What did Barkov do to him?
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I went to Buffalo's roster page to see their team stats for the year and wondered if goaltending was an issue and there's Craig Fuckin' Anderson rising like a 41-year old phoenix like he did a couple years ago in DC with a 6-4-1 record, .922, and 2.66GAA at 41 years old. (Their other goalies are 3.5+ GAA, I think, I didn't pay that much attention, I was just happy to see Craig Anderson still kicking around and doing well-ish.)
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Pungry posted:I'm obviously madder about this than usual because Barkov didn't come back after it, but I do want to ask the thread: is this a dirty hit? That isn’t dirty. Just bad luck. Barkov lifted his stick with his own stick and caused him to fall forward into his knee. He didn’t crosscheck the knee.
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