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PeterWeller posted:Elon genuinely envisions becoming idiot king of Mars Colony 1. Everything he buys is, he thinks, a step towards making that vision a reality. SpaceX gets him there. The Boring Company digs the tunnels he lives in. Starlink gives him a stable communications system. Twitter gives him a "public square" that he wholly owns and controls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GISnTECX8Eg
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Musk ran out of the live chat room after just over a minute. This has an hour left to go and it's already at 58% "Unban Now". If Musk had thought about bringing in his bots and stans to tip the poll, it's not happening now. I am wondering if he's even going to remember this.
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Young Freud posted:This has an hour left to go and it's already at 58% "Unban Now". If Musk had thought about bringing in his bots and stans to tip the poll, it's not happening now. He's waiting so he can ban everyone who votes "Now".
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Gyges posted:He's waiting so he can ban everyone who votes "Now". That's more than half of Twitter users (who care enough to vote) at this point, should really juice the income and metrics
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I believe it was pointed out in this thread or one of the others, but frankly, if I was an amoral monster corporation I'd be even more interested in advertising on Twitter now than I was in the past. Yeah, you're giving money to fascists - but you're a big capitalist business, you already do that. What Musk is doing, entirely by accident, is curating a platform entirely populated by the dumbest and most gullible motherfuckers on the internet. He's making sure the people on Twitter are the ones most receptive to advertising. Granted it's entirely by accident, but still.
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but according to the NY Times, Musk still has his admirers. They sound like horrible people. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/technology/elon-musk-management-style.html quote:Elon Musk, Management Guru? This did make me think of all the times I've visited tech offices and wondered how long all the goodies will last. I guess a high interest rate environment and a real questioning of things like online ad efficacy is going to be a big test.
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Eric Cantonese posted:Not sure if this is the right thread, but according to the NY Times, Musk still has his admirers. They sound like horrible people. Also, he’s only done all these things without breaking Twitter so far
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Can a mod make a poll for me? When Aaron Sorkin writes the scene for yesterday’s ban wave will it be: 1) Musk screaming at a peon “DO SOMETHING!” 2) Musk in tears agonizing over each click of the ban button, muttering “why won’t they play with me, mommy?” While Air on a G string plays in the background and heavy raindrops fall on the windows 3) Musk gleefully making the sound of a shotgun cocking as he pulls up each account, then vocalizing “boom” as he clicks the ban button 4) Musk having a very fast conversation with several different people as he walks down endless hallways ending with him announcing he’s “fixed the problem”
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Old James posted:Can a mod make a poll for me? All of those things actually happened though...
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haveblue posted:Also, he’s only done all these things without breaking Twitter so far There's little reason to think Twitter will break at any point in the future. Twitter has been implementing changes and underwent a major stress test vis a vis the World Cup and everything has been running very well. I expected the wheels to come off quickly, too, but I'm forced to admit that Elon seems to have trimmed the fat quite efficiently. It's telling that computer janitors--who have a vested interest in the matter--are the only ones claiming that Twitter is going to collapse without a bloated army of developers on payroll.
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Eric Cantonese posted:Not sure if this is the right thread, but according to the NY Times, Musk still has his admirers. They sound like horrible people. thanks NY times for C-Suite people are the dumbest shits alive.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Oh my God his mom is now defending him in the comments And this isn't the first time she's defending him! https://twitter.com/mayemusk/status/1527052523898560513 https://twitter.com/mayemusk/status/1527069052488785920
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Old James posted:Can a mod make a poll for me? No checkbox, didn't vote
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I believe it was pointed out in this thread or one of the others, but frankly, if I was an amoral monster corporation I'd be even more interested in advertising on Twitter now than I was in the past. Yeah, you're giving money to fascists - but you're a big capitalist business, you already do that. What Musk is doing, entirely by accident, is curating a platform entirely populated by the dumbest and most gullible motherfuckers on the internet. Most companies aren’t looking to specifically sell to a (much smaller) population of dumb gullible people.
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Discendo Vox posted:Most companies aren’t looking to specifically sell to a (much smaller) population of dumb gullible people. It will definitely become a magnet for scams though
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Yeah, just look at the ads in the margins on fox news articles to see who will be attracted to twitter for ad space.
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It honestly seems more conspiracy brained to think the boring company is just a drug addled gently caress up and not an active scam to get money and interest from local governments and investors and then ghost them. https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-boring-company-tunnel-traffic-11669658396 One requires Musk to be this victim of himself who somehow bumbles into running a company for multiple years in a drug addiction fog. The other is a scammer committing scams. Dude just seems like a malicious scammer who views everyone else as resources.
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"I really admire Wile E. Coyote. For too long we've been bending over backwards to worker demands like 'gravity is a fundamental force' and 'maintaining basic situational awareness'. He’s giving people a lot more knowledge of what’s possible."
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:There's little reason to think Twitter will break at any point in the future. Twitter has been implementing changes and underwent a major stress test vis a vis the World Cup and everything has been running very well. I expected the wheels to come off quickly, too, but I'm forced to admit that Elon seems to have trimmed the fat quite efficiently. Oh god don't buy into this nonsense. Any idiot can walk into any organization and "trim the fat" and things will limp along okay for a bit. Then the problems start building up, the competent people get tired of cleaning up messes and leave and poo poo collapses. Or, more often, management sheepishly rebuilds all the groups they purged when they find out that yeah maybe we need an HR team and okay fine, one lone security guard can't safely cover the whole building and pretty quickly you end up right back where you started. My hospital loves purging social workers every few years because they don't generate money. My wife's hospital purges their rapid response team and float pool every few years. It's always brilliant cost saving and they always get rebuilt once people realize that there was a reason we hired those people in the first place. It's an old consultant/management strategy because you look like a genius when expenses fall and you make sure you're on to your next gig when people realize your cost savings generated more costly problems a year or two later than anyone ever saved.
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Gumball Gumption posted:not an active scam to get money and interest from local governments and investors and then ghost them. you don't actually get any money for bidding on a proposal and then failing to do anything. that's a critical piece missing from this argument, the part where boring company earns any revenue at all (it doesn't)
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Gumball Gumption posted:One requires Musk to be this victim of himself who somehow bumbles into running a company for multiple years in a drug addiction fog. The other is a scammer committing scams. Dude just seems like a malicious scammer who views everyone else as resources. Who said anything about drugs? You don't need drugs to be so rich nobody tells you your ideas are stupid until you've stood up a subsidiary to try to implement them
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The thing is that the Boring Company doesn't actually spend that much money, relatively, and much of what they do spend goes right into Musk's other companies. Their test tunnels are on SpaceX property. Their Loop vehicles are Teslas. They bought a small - and relatively cheap - tunnel boring machine instead of a full-sized one, and they've got basically no tunnel projects right now. They've still got fixed costs like office space and employees, of course, but the Boring Company raised $675 million in venture capital funding earlier this year, so they can afford to run at a loss for quite a while if they're not actually pouring money into Hyperloop R&D. The thing is that Elon's business empire is so interweaved that it's fine if half of it is losing money as long as they're somehow boosting the other half, either by directly buying stuff from his other companies or by getting his name in the news as the super smart genius man you should buy a bunch of TSLA stock from.
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What were the biggest warning signs with musk BEFORE the whole pedo diver accusation? There were many but which ones were the most pertinent to the creature we now have on display?
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Kavros posted:What were the biggest warning signs with musk BEFORE the whole pedo diver accusation? There were many but which ones were the most pertinent to the creature we now have on display? Hoarding depraved amounts of wealth while billions live in poverty
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Kavros posted:What were the biggest warning signs with musk BEFORE the whole pedo diver accusation? There were many but which ones were the most pertinent to the creature we now have on display? When he ousted the founder of Tesla and then stole the first Roaster off the line that was earmarked for him. He later sent this car into space. The real founder of Tesla has Roadster #2 FCKGW fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Dec 17, 2022 |
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FCKGW posted:Roaster Honestly would be a better name 
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Suing in Court to be able to legally lie about being a "founder" of Tesla when he didn't found poo poo. Also he's lied about his college education for years, claiming he had a physics degree or some other weird poo poo. He's a compulsive liar that got rich and now that the house of cards has started to fall, I'm willing to bet a bunch of other heinous poo poo will eventually come out.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Hoarding depraved amounts of wealth while billions live in poverty Plenty of people manage to do this without becoming the laughingstock of the internet
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haveblue posted:Plenty of people manage to do this without becoming the laughingstock of the internet Nevertheless, it's a clear sign of a depraved mind, nothing after that should be too surprising
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Kavros posted:What were the biggest warning signs with musk BEFORE the whole pedo diver accusation? There were many but which ones were the most pertinent to the creature we now have on display? In terms of business acumen (or lack thereof), probably getting ousted from X.com (Paypal precursor) twice in a short period of time - the first time due to inexperience, the second because he made a series of terrible decisions that destroyed morale.
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Shooting Blanks posted:In terms of business acumen (or lack thereof), probably getting ousted from X.com (Paypal precursor) twice in a short period of time - the first time due to inexperience, the second because he made a series of terrible decisions that destroyed morale. Man, good thing he's clearly learned so much about business leadership in the intervening years!
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There's a few coworkers and others.i know who are laughing at Elon musk (appropriately), and the detractors are shaken. As much as this is big dumb spectacle, hope it helps shatter meritocracy thinking.
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BRJurgis posted:There's a few coworkers and others.i know who are laughing at Elon musk (appropriately), and the detractors are shaken. As much as this is big dumb spectacle, hope it helps shatter meritocracy thinking. All known history of fail sons, rich man hubris, and economy imploding gently caress ups suggest you shouldn't hold your breath. I mean, we hosed up a whole nation's economy via flowers and still can't get enough of dumb gently caress financial instruments.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:There's little reason to think Twitter will break at any point in the future. Twitter has been implementing changes and underwent a major stress test vis a vis the World Cup and everything has been running very well. I expected the wheels to come off quickly, too, but I'm forced to admit that Elon seems to have trimmed the fat quite efficiently. "It's telling that the experts in a matter are the only ones making the prediction" probably isn't what you meant to say but it's exactly what you said. Twitter is a complicated system and when you cut out a good portion of the people who maintain that system without replacing them you're going to see decay. That decay just takes time. It's not like it's been getting better.
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BRJurgis posted:There's a few coworkers and others.i know who are laughing at Elon musk (appropriately), and the detractors are shaken. As much as this is big dumb spectacle, hope it helps shatter meritocracy thinking. All the Musk fans around me are shut down or mocked. Shame works. Wink wink.
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Gumball Gumption posted:"It's telling that the experts in a matter are the only ones making the prediction" probably isn't what you meant to say but it's exactly what you said.. Well the predictions were obviously very wrong. 'Local' forecasters confidently predicted that Twitter would crash within the month. When it became very clear that their predictions would not come true, they changed their story, and avoided addressing the original incorrect prediction.
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Gumball Gumption posted:"It's telling that the experts in a matter are the only ones making the prediction" probably isn't what you meant to say but it's exactly what you said. Developers are technicians responsible for carrying out their assigned coding tasks, they dont really know what it takes to keep a massive website running for the long term. They certainly wouldn't be considered the 'experts' in something like this. In fact, their failed predictions of doom and imminent collapse suggest that they know less than a layperson. Also, updates and changes are being successfully implemented (premium memberships, removal of device identification) .. whether or not Twitter is getting 'better' is a matter of opinion but its evolving and certainly not decaying.
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