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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Huxley posted:

https://on.soundcloud.com/gPE3G

The only other thing I need to do is get the girls home to double the "oh oh ohs" and "no no nos." I think an issue is it's all mid-rangey. I tried to bring up the highs in the drums to fill it but I'm not sure it isn't obnoxious. Hrm. Maybe another guitar part but there's already a lot going on here. A solo?

(Again, keep in mind this was written by a 15 year old in about 1995.)

the bass is a bit strong and blown out and the highs in the drums are brought up to compensate, which is very fatiguing

and yeah, it needs some more “meat” filling it out. Some other, higher vocals would be good

a second guitar would also be good, and always good practice to double-track your guitars regardless

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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Huxley posted:

https://on.soundcloud.com/gPE3G

The only other thing I need to do is get the girls home to double the "oh oh ohs" and "no no nos." I think an issue is it's all mid-rangey. I tried to bring up the highs in the drums to fill it but I'm not sure it isn't obnoxious. Hrm. Maybe another guitar part but there's already a lot going on here. A solo?

(Again, keep in mind this was written by a 15 year old in about 1995.)

Oooh you should post the multitracks and let everyone do a mix-off

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Hey Rick, I call this the White Genocide chord *plays guitar reptilianishly* Its a great replacement for the V, if you know what I mean!

landgrabber posted:

that album is from 2004 when they were much much less good

Modelers have been good for a long time tbh. I have a Boss GX-700 rack unit modeler/multieffect unit from the mid 90s and it sounds killer, as long as I run it through a good cab. The problem was with cab sims, which used to be dog poo poo but have clearly gotten much much better

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
I have a big digitech RPsomething from the early 2000s, a lot of the specific effects aren't great like the whammy, which is very stepped and not smooth at all. Anyway if you A/B it against like normal stomps or amp tone it sounds like rear end but if you just play through it and work the mix around it it's totally fine.

It has an option for cab sim but it's basically worthless, it's a slight EQ change but doesn't really sound at all like a mic'ed cab.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Hey Rick, I call this the White Genocide chord *plays guitar reptilianishly* Its a great replacement for the V, if you know what I mean!

for a guy that has so many hot takes about snowflakes and modern society and kids today and whatnot, Billy sure did write a lot of songs about how he’s a little boy and what a sad little boy he is

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Hey Rick, I call this the White Genocide chord *plays guitar reptilianishly* Its a great replacement for the V, if you know what I mean!

lol

My most naive thing when I was a teen was I was legitimately surprised how many sensitive outsider goths are also way racist, it made no sense how it could shake out that way to me

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Wowporn posted:

lol

My most naive thing when I was a teen was I was legitimately surprised how many sensitive outsider goths are also way racist, it made no sense how it could shake out that way to me

buncha hp lovecrafts, getting all antagonized by black people music

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
I just got a shim for my Jaguar, can I/should I attempt to retain the strings? Can I just loosen them and keep them connected whilst I do the install? I'm just aware of how much I'm spending on strings lately.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Yeah, just secure them at the nut with a capo or an elastic band so they don't fly around and then loosen the neck bolts. It's not exactly gonna make them last any longer, but it won't kill them instantly either.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

what effect does leaving too much slack on the end of your strings around your tuning posts have?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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If you mean the part wrapped around it can impact tuning stability, if you mean the part sticking out you can poke yourself, ouch!

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
Done! Went for a full degree shim, since as it was the bridge had to be as low as it would go to get just about acceptable action. It's now at about 5mm elevation and I can probably lower it a little, intonation is still right as well.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


landgrabber posted:

what effect does leaving too much slack on the end of your strings around your tuning posts have?

If the wraps aren't clean or start to overlap each other you'll get slippage. You want between 2-4 wraps on each post optimally.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well
I'm looking for a little practice amp to mostly use with headphones with my bass and guitar. I already have a Fender Rumble 40 bass amp, but it's honestly too loud for just practicing and i'm probably going to sell it.

I was looking at the Boss Katana Mini or the Monoprice Stage Right 5w Tube Amp. I know the thread likes the Boss, should I just go for that?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

frogbs posted:

I'm looking for a little practice amp to mostly use with headphones with my bass and guitar. I already have a Fender Rumble 40 bass amp, but it's honestly too loud for just practicing and i'm probably going to sell it.

I was looking at the Boss Katana Mini or the Monoprice Stage Right 5w Tube Amp. I know the thread likes the Boss, should I just go for that?

I’d probably spend more and get the Katana 2 50W, but I can’t really give you a strong reason for why if you’re not planning on dicking around with recording, etc. Maybe somebody else with more direct experience with the Katana Mini and the others can set me straight.

Guitar center appears to have the whole line in white for a smidge more than base retail, btw.

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

The Monoprice amp will not be the ticket. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t have a headphone out at all, and I don’t think it’ll be any quieter than your Rumble. The Katana Mini seems to fit your use case better, but it really would be worth trying a full size Katana. You get considerably more options tone-wise, and it has a dial to adjust the wattage, so it’s plenty quiet. I’ve seen used ones go as low as $125, but more often $180 or so. Well worth the premium.

The last bit is I think you ought to keep the Rumble. It’s got a headphone out, and it bests any of the options you’re considering at bass amp duty. I’ve got a 100, and I’m definitely a bedroom player more than anything.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
There’s a Katana bass amp line now, no idea how good it is. I assume it’s on par with the guitar stuff, but I haven’t seen the same outpouring of enthusiasm over it (maybe it’s still really early)

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Huxley posted:

https://on.soundcloud.com/gPE3G

The only other thing I need to do is get the girls home to double the "oh oh ohs" and "no no nos." I think an issue is it's all mid-rangey. I tried to bring up the highs in the drums to fill it but I'm not sure it isn't obnoxious. Hrm. Maybe another guitar part but there's already a lot going on here. A solo?

(Again, keep in mind this was written by a 15 year old in about 1995.)

Maybe lean in to the whole Daniel Johnston vibe and add some organ.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Ok Comboomer posted:

I’d probably spend more and get the Katana 2 50W, but I can’t really give you a strong reason for why if you’re not planning on dicking around with recording, etc. Maybe somebody else with more direct experience with the Katana Mini and the others can set me straight.
Guitar center appears to have the whole line in white for a smidge more than base retail, btw.

The 50w can be set to 0.5w, 25w or 50w. The lowest setting can be set to a pretty comfortable apartment volume with still a looooong way to go, but its nice to have the option if I ever play with people one day.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

frogbs posted:

I'm looking for a little practice amp to mostly use with headphones with my bass and guitar. I already have a Fender Rumble 40 bass amp, but it's honestly too loud for just practicing and i'm probably going to sell it.

I was looking at the Boss Katana Mini or the Monoprice Stage Right 5w Tube Amp. I know the thread likes the Boss, should I just go for that?

Have you looked at the Mustang Micro? Perfect little headphone practice thing. It's intentionally limited, so not great if you really like tweaking things, but for just picking up and playing it's great. Has one or two bass settings, too.

DangerousSmells
Jan 3, 2021
Anyone have an Axe-FX FM3? What are your thoughts?

I primarily play guitar, but I scooped up a bass a few months ago. For guitar I have a Deluxe Reverb. I could buy a bass amp, but I was thinking of selling the Deluxe Reverb and grabbing an FM3 which should cover both bases. Just looking for some opinions.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

DangerousSmells posted:

Anyone have an Axe-FX FM3? What are your thoughts?

I primarily play guitar, but I scooped up a bass a few months ago. For guitar I have a Deluxe Reverb. I could buy a bass amp, but I was thinking of selling the Deluxe Reverb and grabbing an FM3 which should cover both bases. Just looking for some opinions.

I have one I got relatively recently. It sounds amazing, definitely the best sounding modeler I've tried. It is a pain in the rear end to use compared to a lot of other gear, though. Its intended to be used as professional gear so there are zillions of complicated routing and tweaking options and the layout/UI isn't as user friendly as the Line 6 stuff, ime. That said, it connects to a computer and the editing software makes it more accessible and useable. Its extremely powerful but you'll need to put in some time to learn it. I haven't tried it with bass but it has bass amp and cab models, which I assume sound just as amazing as the guitar models. Leon Todd has you covered there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCouFzrzWaQ

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Oooh you should post the multitracks and let everyone do a mix-off

OK, this is where I stand now, if anyone feels like an exercise in "some producer with computers fixes all my lovely tracks, these daaays."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eGqlsGrF_2oiF1KnhpARBJi3EyeJfDwp/view?usp=sharing

There are 3 guitar tracks in here right now: rhyth is a humbucker direct via USB; guit high is same setup on upper triad rhythm thing; lead is a tele bridge miccing the cab.

This is an Ableton 10 collect, but I think there are raw WAVs in there.

Huxley fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Dec 18, 2022

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well
Thanks to everyone for their advice on the amp!

nitsuga posted:

The Monoprice amp will not be the ticket. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t have a headphone out at all, and I don’t think it’ll be any quieter than your Rumble. The Katana Mini seems to fit your use case better, but it really would be worth trying a full size Katana. You get considerably more options tone-wise, and it has a dial to adjust the wattage, so it’s plenty quiet. I’ve seen used ones go as low as $125, but more often $180 or so. Well worth the premium.

The last bit is I think you ought to keep the Rumble. It’s got a headphone out, and it bests any of the options you’re considering at bass amp duty. I’ve got a 100, and I’m definitely a bedroom player more than anything.

You're right, the Monoprice doesn't have a headphone jack, so it's out.

And I hear you on keeping the Rumble. The one thing I didn't mention was that i'm trying to get something smaller, i'm tired of moving the Rumble around, I want something I can keep plugged in/available without taking up too much space.

ColdPie posted:

Have you looked at the Mustang Micro? Perfect little headphone practice thing. It's intentionally limited, so not great if you really like tweaking things, but for just picking up and playing it's great. Has one or two bass settings, too.

This might be a good compromise! Thank you, will check it out.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Huxley posted:

OK, this is where I stand now, if anyone feels like an exercise is "some producer with computers fixes all my lovely tracks, these daaays."

just letting you know i greatly appreciate this quotation

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat

frogbs posted:

I'm looking for a little practice amp to mostly use with headphones with my bass and guitar. I already have a Fender Rumble 40 bass amp, but it's honestly too loud for just practicing and i'm probably going to sell it.

I was looking at the Boss Katana Mini or the Monoprice Stage Right 5w Tube Amp. I know the thread likes the Boss, should I just go for that?

I have both of these. The little katana doesn't come with a power adapter so factor that in. It's cool to take with me to test out guitars I don't need to buy.

The monoprice I got cuz I just wanted toobs in my life. I like to just put a tube screamer in front of it.


Most of the time these days I just plug into my mooer ge200 modeler thing for headphone time.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

Huxley posted:

OK, this is where I stand now, if anyone feels like an exercise in "some producer with computers fixes all my lovely tracks, these daaays."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eGqlsGrF_2oiF1KnhpARBJi3EyeJfDwp/view?usp=sharing

There are 3 guitar tracks in here right now: rhyth is a humbucker direct via USB; guit high is same setup on upper triad rhythm thing; lead is a tele bridge miccing the cab.

This is an Ableton 10 collect, but I think there are raw WAVs in there.

I downloaded it and opened the wav files since I don't have Ableton; it looks like it's just the individual wavs and not stems; they don't start in the same spot or anything and it's not clear what's supposed to go where. If you want to export stems of each track I'd be happy to take a stab at it, but I understand if you don't want to go through that work.

DangerousSmells
Jan 3, 2021

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Words and things.

Thanks for the feedback. Any experience using the FM3 with physical pedals? I know you can set up effects in the modeler, but it is my understanding that it sucks up processing power which is in relatively short supply as compared to the FM9 or the rackmount version. I don’t have a ton of pedals, but it would be reassuring to know that they won’t become paperweights if I do switch to the FM3. For reference, I’ve got a Boss delay and flanger, a Rat, and a looper.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

DangerousSmells posted:

Thanks for the feedback. Any experience using the FM3 with physical pedals? I know you can set up effects in the modeler, but it is my understanding that it sucks up processing power which is in relatively short supply as compared to the FM9 or the rackmount version. I don’t have a ton of pedals, but it would be reassuring to know that they won’t become paperweights if I do switch to the FM3. For reference, I’ve got a Boss delay and flanger, a Rat, and a looper.
I play a MKII Turbo at home and an FM3 at rehearsals, and I have never in my life been happier with my gear.

One thing about the FM3 is you'll want to adjust your input level for your hottest pickups before you try putting any pedals in front. I cannot say how the FAS gear handles gain stages in front.

On the other hand, you have amazing send/return routing available and your modulation/time effects can all go in the effects loop.

My experience has been: Buy FAS gear, sell almost everything, buy more guitars. YMMV :)

P.S. - Just came from a rehearsal with a sound guy who came to dial in our PA. Since my presets are home-built and properly leveled my part of soundcheck was over just after it started. I am crazy about this tech. I just carry in a pedalboard and hook up an FRFR and plug into the PA. I'm usually set up before the drummer and all he does is bring cymbals.

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿
I usually sit on my bed or a couch when playing but find that I star drifting ny guitar neck away from my body and it causes a bunch of problems playing. Should I sit differently or are there any like cues I should use to hold my guitar closer?

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
yes

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Dr. Faustus posted:

I play a MKII Turbo at home and an FM3 at rehearsals, and I have never in my life been happier with my gear.

One thing about the FM3 is you'll want to adjust your input level for your hottest pickups before you try putting any pedals in front. I cannot say how the FAS gear handles gain stages in front.

On the other hand, you have amazing send/return routing available and your modulation/time effects can all go in the effects loop.

My experience has been: Buy FAS gear, sell almost everything, buy more guitars. YMMV :)

P.S. - Just came from a rehearsal with a sound guy who came to dial in our PA. Since my presets are home-built and properly leveled my part of soundcheck was over just after it started. I am crazy about this tech. I just carry in a pedalboard and hook up an FRFR and plug into the PA. I'm usually set up before the drummer and all he does is bring cymbals.


What FRFR do you like? I may finally get to start jamming again, and I’ll have to either buy a real amp or get a FRFR for my hx stomp if I want to leave my apartment.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
I have decided that this is the funkiest a guitar has ever sounded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_D3_0CfFw

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
I wish there was a way to listen to Super Freak for the first time having never heard Can't Touch This.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Baron von Eevl posted:

I downloaded it and opened the wav files since I don't have Ableton; it looks like it's just the individual wavs and not stems; they don't start in the same spot or anything and it's not clear what's supposed to go where. If you want to export stems of each track I'd be happy to take a stab at it, but I understand if you don't want to go through that work.

No worries! Thanks for trying. I finished it up today and am a lot happier with this version. Plus I got my backup singers in there.

https://on.soundcloud.com/j4Som

It's real dumb but she loved it so much.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

I have my first recital at lessons in a month and I'm paralyzed about what to play. Was thinking of something simple but catchy like The Beatles Dig a Pony, Savoy Truffle, or And Your Bird Can Sing. Or maybe something from Tom Petty. Argh.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

The Leck posted:

What FRFR do you like? I may finally get to start jamming again, and I’ll have to either buy a real amp or get a FRFR for my hx stomp if I want to leave my apartment.
I just bought what I could afford, so it's not like I did a lot of FRFR shopping. I grabbed a pair of Headrush 108s and they have been really excellent to me. I'll repeat the most important fact about these: At low volume, like in your bedroom or apartment, you will probably need to EQ out most of the bass because at low volume they have way too much bass. Crank up to rehearsal volume and it flattens out. I bought two and leave one at home because oo la la I've yet to be drowned out at any rehearsal with just the one. Two in stereo sounds marvelous. I've heard them praised, I've heard them slagged, I just know that for what I paid I am more than covered.

They weigh nothing and take up no room, too. I love 'em, but I haven't played anything else to compare them to, so take it with a grain of salt.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

luchadornado posted:

I have my first recital at lessons in a month and I'm paralyzed about what to play. Was thinking of something simple but catchy like The Beatles Dig a Pony, Savoy Truffle, or And Your Bird Can Sing. Or maybe something from Tom Petty. Argh.

i like playing dig a pony so that’s my pick. are there any you feel more confident with?

DangerousSmells
Jan 3, 2021
FM3 chat: screw it, I’m in. Ordered one tonight. They seem perfect for my situation. This solves the bass amp problem, portable practice amp problem, and the problem of wanting a different amp for metal noodling.

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Quizzlefish
Jan 26, 2005

Am I not merciful?
Anyone else use the RockSchool books to learn? I'm using them with my teacher and absolutely loving it. The solo from Use Me by Bill Withers is super fun in the acoustic grade 4 book. One of those that I looked at and thought 'I'll never be good enough to play this' and after a few weeks of practice it's almost there.

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