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History Comes Inside! posted:It emulates them really well but makes my fan loud as gently caress, very upsetting You wanna hear your fan scream load up Minecraft. Any version of it.
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njsykora posted:I don’t know how many people go back to read the early pages of this thread but they are hilarious in hindsight with massive arguments over whether the Deck would emulate Switch games. Steam Dreck
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Dec 20, 2022 17:34
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It doesn’t emulate a lot of switch games though.
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Randalor posted:What's the battery life like when it's emulating switch games? In Mario Odyssey (easily the game I’ve had to do the most fiddling with to get it running well) about 3 hours. In lighter stuff like Mario Kart 8 closer to 4-5.
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I’ve had a pretty wide range of old and new switch stuff work, it’s hit and miss for sure though yeah I have yet to find anything that runs better than it does on my actual switch like some people seem to rave about though
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PantsBandit posted:Anyone have success with running spotify in the background? I had to mute the music in River City Girls 2, some of it is truly heinous. Curious what the performance impact of spotify is on this thing. Shouldn't be too taxing. I've had Discord run in the background, which works surprisingly well; the speakers and mic on this thing are pretty great. I was able to use it as a speakerphone for a gathering recently. njsykora posted:For what it's worth I use a Pro 2 when docked and it works perfectly. I also picked up FF13 on Steam since it was on sale (the voicessss...) and this I think is my first time trying to do heavy lifting to get the game running to my liking. Installing FF13-Fix, experimenting with fps caps (use 40, 30 is nasty and it can't hold 60) and manually setting a proton version (experimental has way less stutter). I too have been messing with FF13/13-2 and yeah, FF13fix is mandatory. It works real nice. I used protontricks to run winecfg to add an override for d3d9, which I think is required to have it load ff13fix correctly? 13-2 can't always hold 40 still but that's just how it is. At least despite the poor performance and overall poor port it can run for 4-5 hours.
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Annath posted:Has anyone gotten Assassin's Creed Valhalla working through Heroic Launcher? Quoting this because I still can't get it to work.
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njsykora posted:I don’t know how many people go back to read the early pages of this thread but they are hilarious in hindsight with massive arguments over whether the Deck would emulate Switch games. I’m pretty sure I threw shade at the Steam Deck early on in the thread. I’m glad to be wrong.
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parasyte posted:I too have been messing with FF13/13-2 and yeah, FF13fix is mandatory. It works real nice. I used protontricks to run winecfg to add an override for d3d9, which I think is required to have it load ff13fix correctly? 13-2 can't always hold 40 still but that's just how it is. At least despite the poor performance and overall poor port it can run for 4-5 hours. I don’t know if it’s mandatory for the fix in general, it held the 40fps cap without me doing that but I don’t know if any of the wider optimisations are working given it still stutters going into battle.
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PantsBandit posted:Anyone have success with running spotify in the background? I had to mute the music in River City Girls 2, some of it is truly heinous. Curious what the performance impact of spotify is on this thing. Seems fine to me. There are decky plugins to add controls for media players to the … menu button so you don’t have to juggle poo poo in-game too.
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How do people find the steam dock? I've got it but I'd like to increase my screen resolution to better fit my TV. I noticed most games I play with still have the hardcoded steam deck resolution even when I set my TV res to something different in the settings. Is this possible to do? And if so does the steam deck actually handle larger screen resolutions alright? I understand that a lot of what makes the Steam deck perform so well is because it's running games at such a small resolution normally.
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DarkAvenger211 posted:How do people find the steam dock? I've got it but I'd like to increase my screen resolution to better fit my TV. I noticed most games I play with still have the hardcoded steam deck resolution even when I set my TV res to something different in the settings. I got an Anker usb-c dock thing and 3d printed a stand that holds both for a lot less than the steam dock costs. edit: I realize this doesn't help with your screen resolution complaint. Duct Tape Engineer fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Dec 20, 2022 |
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Games will auto switch from 16:10 to 16:9 ratio but if you want a higher resolution you’ll have to set it yourself manually. Though with a lot of the stuff I’m playing docked I’ve thought the system FSR has done a decent enough job upscaling.
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Dec 20, 2022 19:46
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I find it very frustrating how many times I try to set the resolution of a thing to 1280x800 and I still get black bands above and below.
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I can’t imagine a control profile is gonna take up anything more than the tiniest amount of space possible so viewing it is probably exactly the same as downloading it and they just decided to cut out the middleman
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jokes posted:I find it very frustrating how many times I try to set the resolution of a thing to 1280x800 and I still get black bands above and below. Fortunately there’s an update in preview that makes the performance monitor horizontal so it fills that space so you’ll have something to look at up there.
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Antigravitas posted:Hey Valve, I really like my Steam Controller. If you're reading this, I have a suggestion.
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I kind of wish there was a way for Luxtorpedia to work with non-Steam games*. Like, there isn't an up-to-date Linux-native build of dxx-rebirth around that I can find aside from Luxtorpedia's, which would be fine, except my copy of Descent is original from 1995 and I don't actually own it on Steam. So now I'm waiting for it go on sale so I can get it there to run under dxx-rebirth anyways. * I mean, I'm sure there's a way.
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Why is the Witcher 3 doing a "shader update" that is the size of the entire drat game? is that an actual patch or some mega version of those shader micro patches steam deck does? 35 GB.
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probably cos of the new graphics update means there’s much more new shaders to precompile and now steam is pushing out these new optimised versions. That’d be my guess
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It isn't just a shader update, The Witcher 3 also replaced the entire drat game.
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Yeah but I already downloaded the new version and was playing it before that.
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Oops all shaders edition
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There’s always tons of shader updates and I have no clue what they do lol
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Detective No. 27 posted:I’m pretty sure I threw shade at the Steam Deck early on in the thread. I’m glad to be wrong. I think people more overestimated the Switch than underestimated the Steam Deck. The Switch’s strength never came from the (pretty low) power of its hardware but the software output from first and second party developers.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:There’s always tons of shader updates and I have no clue what they do lol update uyour shaders
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I do but what do they do and why are there so many updates for them who are putting them out?
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so for graphics you have these things called shaders. these help the graphics card decide how to make pixels look, like if you wanted them to look wet for example. if you are on a PC, the game needs to compile them (make them) on the user's end because every single PC will have different specs and hardware. this can take seconds, minutes, hrs depending on the users hardware. some pc games do it on the fly to save space and this is where you get shader compilation stutter. but on console and now steam deck, because they are fixed hardware (except for storage size, everything is the same), the developers can ship games with the shaders already made. on deck, valve can constantly ship better more optimised versions of these precompiled shaders. this will make games run and look better.
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njsykora posted:As for Steam Machines 2.0 I feel like Valve would have to subsidise them in some way at least, the biggest beef mini PC out there (Minisforum NUCx i7 with a 3070) is over $1000 and you’re gonna need at least something that can handle 1080p60 reliably for $500 I feel to really get that concept rolling again. It sounds like you're expecting better performance than the Dreck, but just as a starting point (for a SteamOS console-style PC,) you could take the hardware in the Dreck itself, which goes for as low as $400, subtract the battery and display, and build it into a little console thing (so maybe different I/O, a dedicated video output and a few more USB ports) and probably end up with something you could sell for even less than the entry level Dreck and still at worst break even. But then, not being constrained by a 15 W APU and battery life considerations, you could use a more recent APU (e.g. 6800U or the next gen) and get a device with acceptable performance for nowhere near $1k. And I'd jump on a barebones console to save even more money, with at least BYO storage if not RAM, as well as no included controller. Of course you could do this right now, installing the current SteamOS on some random mini desktop, but the newest AMD APUs in particular (plus, to I guess a lesser extent the Intel Xe GPUs) are what are facilitating this type of cheap, console gaming PC. Why are those games not running at 12 FPS?!?!?!?!! Immersion ruined!!!
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Quantum of Phallus posted:so for graphics you have these things called shaders. these help the graphics card decide how to make pixels look, like if you wanted them to look wet for example. Gettin’ my pixels wet.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:so for graphics you have these things called shaders. these help the graphics card decide how to make pixels look, like if you wanted them to look wet for example. I brought this up before but I'm asking again.... Since this is how it works with the Deck, shouldn't the "best shader config for Game X" eventually be settled on, and we won't need to continually download different ones? I run deck cleaner once in a while, usually after the shader stuff gets over 10-15gb, and I wanna say that I'm therefore cleaning that up less often because fewer shader updates are downloaded but maybe that's not the case.
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No because other stuff can impact them in future like updates to steamOS or proton or the game itself, so unless everything gets frozen and no further changes are ever made there’s always going to be updated shaders to cache.
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History Comes Inside! posted:No because other stuff can impact them in future like updates to steamOS or proton or the game itself, so unless everything gets frozen and no further changes are ever made there’s always going to be updated shaders to cache. also, unlike in windows where you can just run a game on directx, DXVK needs to get even the most basic poo poo compiled as shaders that "emulate" dx on vulkan. the upside is you don't have to use proprietary software, the downside is having to download shaders OTOH, steam's fossilize scheme single-handedly fixed compilation stutter in most unreal engine games that have been plagued by it on pc, but it only works on linux/deck lmao
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They should have an option to download shaders only when I click 'play'. Maybe on a per-game basis. I installed some old Rockstar games and I swear Bully updates almost every boot. I will play you some day Bully but knock it off.
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Atomizer posted:It sounds like you're expecting better performance than the Dreck, but just as a starting point (for a SteamOS console-style PC,) you could take the hardware in the Dreck itself, which goes for as low as $400, subtract the battery and display, and build it into a little console thing (so maybe different I/O, a dedicated video output and a few more USB ports) and probably end up with something you could sell for even less than the entry level Dreck and still at worst break even. Look at this guy who didn't get the framerate for Perfect Dark into the 1s by chucking n-bombs everywhere
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RBA Starblade posted:by chucking n-bombs everywhere whoa buddy times have changed, read a newspaper
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Chucking n-bombs everywhere is how I saw a lot of people playing PD multiplayer.
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njsykora posted:If they just took the Deck controls and slapped them into a controller shell with no changes I’d still be happy tbh. You definitely don't need a 3070 to handle 1080p60. Next year's Phoenix Point APUs are going to be around that level of performance. Remember that any Steam Machine APU isn't going to be handicapped by the Steam Deck's power/thermal limits.
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Anyone else getting the problem in Horizon Zero Dawn where the right joystick just stops working until you reload the save? Very inconvenient in a game that doesn't let you save arbitrarily.
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